My Best Guess at a Test of the L v F System

[Robeenhuut]

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for what is worth, i tested 20 sections  (no loss) using FTL EC (whichever of the 3), playing to +10 and same cycles of 9.... much easier to track and to place bets

vundarosa

I also suggested playing like this before but it did not sit well with Flat.  On other hand playing for +5 risking 100 can give you long winning runs.  Using air ball actuals i lost 2 out of 22 sessions testing with Stef tracker. Sam has 26/1. These are just typical results in my opinion. 

[tonynewlife]

I also suggested playing like this before but it did not sit well with Flat.  On other hand playing for +5 risking 100 can give you long winning runs.  Using air ball actuals i lost 2 out of 22 sessions testing with Stef tracker. Sam has 26/1. These are just typical results in my opinion.

Are you all using the 1400 stop loss criteria then? or the 400 suggested by Sam?

Tony

[vundarosa]

On other hand playing for +5 risking 100 can give you long winning runs.

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that's just what i am looking for.....i test with small unit value and if the trend continues, it will justify some real BR investment.....

vundarosa

[Robeenhuut]

Are you all using the 1400 stop-loss criteria then? or the 400 suggested by Sam?

Tony

I used in my testing 1440 stop loss and 72 win goal and tested using actuals from SMLive posted here on this forum. Flat suggested testing only on live wheel but he played it on air ball. It was a case of reversed engineering. He just only accepted the data that confirmed his theories.

[TwoCatSam]

It was a case of reversed engineering. He just only accepted the data that confirmed his theories.    
I felt that, too. 

What impressed me was all the sheets he put up from the other members.  You know, the 300 spins each thing.

HELLO

I still have those sheets on my wife's computer!!  I'll do the Stef test on them and get back to you!!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Great Monday!

[tonynewlife]

Great Monday!

Nice way to start the week Sam!

Tony

[TwoCatSam]

Thank you, tony.  I know FLATman is reading it because he sends me hate mail.

Wouldn't it be something if this works and he's not here for the accolades?

Good work, FLATman.

Sam

[tonynewlife]

Thank you, tony.  I know FLATman is reading it because he sends me hate mail.

Wouldn't it be something if this works and he's not here for the accolades?

Good work, FLATman.

Sam

Yeah no kidding lol

Tony

[TwoCatSam]

Lookin' good in the neighborhood!

[TwoCatSam]

I see folks are downloading so I'll continue.

[tonynewlife]

I see folks are downloading so I'll continue.

Oh yeah Sam, I'm always following....

Quick question for ya, I noticed the tracker created by Steph uses the +1/-1 progression instead of the leveled progression suggested by Sam which I pasted below:

Switch after each lose.progression 1+1- L/W......but so called leveled progression...I do it
  by head but there is a formula I have maded...for instance ....you losing 400 on progress. 8...won
  240......now 400 divided by 8 = 50.........240 divided by 50 = 5...so next   bet would be 5....hoppe you got what  I mean.No from 8 to 7 after such win.

Is that correct?

Thanks

Tony

[tonynewlife]

Correction I meant to say "the leveled progression suggested by Flatman"

Sorry

Tony

[Stepkevh]

the leveled progr that Flat suggested  for this latest LvF system is that there needs to be a check every 9 spins.

if your balance is higher then previous 9th balance then it goes 1 down.
if the balance is lower then previous 9th balance then it rises 1.

and thats what the tracker does, every 9th spin it checks the balance and goes 1+ or 1-

I also coded it in my excel bot and gonna let it run for a while

Stef

[TwoCatSam]

Personally, I don't think this system needs anything but someone with the bankroll to play it.  After all my testing, allowing for a $400 stop-loss, you would be ahead almost 2,500 units.

This is not pie in the sky.  This is a real test with real numbers anyone can verify and  AND AND duplicate. 

Duplication is the key word.  If you can't duplicate it, it is false!

I never accused FLATman of being wrong; I just did not understand it.  Now there is nothing to understand. 

Sam

That is...........thanks to Stef there is nothing to understand.

Stef

If this keeps up, the day will come I'll make money with it and you will be paid a nice chunk!  My word!