An apology to Stef, soggett and trebor

[Skakus]

 
You know, I actually invented a gun for roulette player's.   


[reveal] [/reveal]

[Turner]

You know, I actually invented a gun for roulette player's. 

Class!

[Skakus]

Ha!

You just poo pooed my reveal! 

[Steve]

.. not all roulette players do the same thing.

And yes that type of talk from flatman is not acceptable. It appears removed now, I couldnt find it. Flatman you know better than that.

I didnt know you were vile too flatman. I recall recently you had account login problems. What probably happened was your ip was banned from a different username, and this locked out your other accounts.

Keep in mind multiple accounts are not permitted as it just leads to trouble. So please only use the one account from now.

[Turner]

Ha!

You just poo pooed my reveal! 

Sorry....your idea of me and you as a double act was shi.t

[ddarko]

I didn't know you were vile too flatman.

He wasn't, your just taking somebodies word for it instead of finding out for yourself 

[Steve]

He wasn't, your just taking somebodies word for it instead of finding out for yourself

Believe me I know better and checked myself. The claim is correct.

[ddarko]

Believe me I know better and checked myself. The claim is correct.

I don't believe you Steve, I will wait for the actual guy (Flatman) to confirm or deny 

If I'm wrong I will happily apologise to you via this public forum 

[Steve]

same with JL and how I explained about his fake accounts, why would I lie???

Some may argue I banned him because he made claims about roulette contrary to mine, like he must have been "bad for business"... But look around. Things are being said contrary to my claims everywhere and I don't care.

Anyway, flatman can confirm.. or deny.. himself. If he denies I'll show you what I see.

[ddarko]

same with JL and how I explained about his fake accounts, why would I lie???

Some may argue I banned him because he made claims about roulette contrary to mine, like he must have been "bad for business"... But look around. Things are being said contrary to my claims everywhere and I don't care.

Anyway, flatman can confirm.. or deny.. himself. If he denies I'll show you what I see.

I never said your lied, I just don't think you are correct. I remember vile from your other forum & his way of typing/speaking etc etc was nothing like Flatman's (iboba)

I agree with what you did with JL or John Gold as I think he maybe  & yes your probably pi$$ed with peoples reaction to you banning him. I'm allowed not to agree with you, & as stated before I will apologise if I'm wrong, I cannot be any fairer than that.

[Skakus]

Sorry....your idea of me and you as a double act was shi.t

Hmmm, thanks for the heads up Turner. The last shi.t idea I had was 21 years ago; we're still married and I'm still suffering, so no more shi.tty double act ideas from me! You're on your own now dude.

[Roughy]

Oooo, better hope Mrs Skakus never logs in or you're in big trouble! 

Roughy

[Skakus]

 
Trouble.

Funny, that's her middle name! hehehehe!

[FlAtMaN]

I don't believe you Steve, I will wait for the actual guy (Flatman) to confirm or deny 

If I'm wrong I will happily apologise to you via this public forum 

Yes it is true I had 3 names,but with certain reasons.As a often travel on my roulette and tex.hold.
trips,I turn off all eletricity in my home.Comeback and FLATINO disapeared from the forum,couldn't log in and opened a new account as  Vile,after while I succeed to log on as FLATINO/since then never used Vile again/then went to trip to Wien recently and same thing happened again.....Flatino
disapeared from the forum and finally I opened the other day a account as Flatman......and by the
way I did informed members that Vile and Flatino are same person.

[FlAtMaN]

flatman, unfortunately I know nothing about your systems. I also am not aware of what claims you had main pertaining to your systems. so I'm not in position to judge
All this discussion started motivated by;WE WERE SOLD A BASKET OF ROTTEN APPLES.......posted by BLOVIATOR TCS aka SAM/am only using his own expression/who was testing my 48 full sessions of Wiesbaden/as he probably thought that I might have fabricated numbers,as he simply couldn't believe that it could be true...and when he discovered the true,that all is correct and winning sessions/except 2,wich didn't lost required BR/then finally he produced yesterday session with 250 spins and victoriously posted as a losing session......but the rules of the method strictly say;only sessionss with 300 or more spins.......and after that comes;
WE WERE SOLD BASKET OF ROTTEN APPLES

I'll just say I'm all for sharing and discussing, but everyone needs to be open and honest to others and themselves about their systems etc. But in saying that, of course people like JL etc will keep doing what they do. Such people will always exist. The real problem is people allowing themselves to be deceived.
I'm not deceiving anybody.

people also need to understand +70 units in a year is NOTHING... N O T H I N G.

It is not 72 units a year but 72 units/mostly more/per a playing session.

It is fact, not opinion, that any method needs proper testing before you can say it wins.

I recall one gambler who lost a fortune over 2 years. Then in just 2 months he made a small part of it back and was banned. Many people thought his system worked. Even media, and it was a great story. But people focused on the 2 months rather than the 2 years. And many people rushed to buy his book, but only found his system was a strong BS progression that lost, and that the player only had a winning streak over 2 months. And a losing streak over 2 years. SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE AND UNDERSTAND A GENUINE LONG TERM WINNING SYSTEM MEANS IT WINS IN THE LONG TERM. ANY SYSTEM, EVEN BETTING ONLY BLACK, CAN WIN OVER 10,000 OR MORE SPINS. IT doesn't MEAN YOU CAN MAKE A LIVING FROM IT. THERE ARE ALWAYS WINNERS AND LOSERS. AND OVERALL, THE CASINO TAKES A BIT MORE THAN WHAT THEY PAY BACK. that's THE HOUSE EDGE.

And that is exactly how I explain things in my methods,nor will you find anywhere in my methods that I would be call it Horible Guy.

flatman it is not directed at you - it is for everyone. again I know nothing about your systems