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Started by Skakus, Dec 04, 08:23 AM 2012

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RFMAXX

Quote from: Skakus on Jan 11, 03:50 AM 2013

I hope so Ray.

I have an interesting MM tweak I'm working on that might just get this over the line!

A few things to figure out yet, but looking good. :thumbsup:


hope you share this with us.  :D
@rayhd: i am testing smartlive airball and will present the results soon. looks very good so far.


rayhd63

Quotei am testing smartlive airball and will present the results soon. looks very good so far.

The test I have rum where all from TouchBet Roulette. The spin frequency is higher and if my testing keepsthe way it is, then TouchBet is my choice.

I'm anxious to see the MM from Skakus.

Played and tested till my sight starting to disappear  :lol: 

Till now, this is getting more and more my favourite.

Ray

artattack

Skakus
Thank your work.
I have a bit of a problem with the updated spread sheet posted earlier.

I am using that as the latest updated sheet to make sure I understand it correctly.

"chiricahua+session+all+triggers+game(2).xls"


The issue is early on at the start, I just want to make sure I am reading it OK.


18 VL 1
13 VL 0
13 L
3   L
12 L
20 L
2  w     at this stage we are - 5

16 VL 1   this i think should have been a virtual win, so should be VL 0 this throws the following out a bit, but continue anyway
8   VL 2
7   VL 3
21 VL 2  * virtual win
17 VL 3
8   VL 4

34 L  -22
14 L  -22
31 L  -22    out total accumulative losses are now -71  -66 from this cycle and -5 from the 1st cycle

3  W  this win of 75  leaves us with a profit of 4  not 26.



Would I be correct?
Arthur.






Wally Gator

Just watched the videos .... very nice.  Exceptional job, Skakus. 
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

RFMAXX


rayhd63

Hi Nick,

whenever you got time, please have a look at that file !!

My highest was 180 units , so I have not got to my win stop of 198 units
the biggest minus was  -3916 units and ended at -2031 units

Ray


Skakus

Quote from: artattack on Jan 12, 07:53 AM 2013
Skakus
Thank your work.
I have a bit of a problem with the updated spread sheet posted earlier.

I am using that as the latest updated sheet to make sure I understand it correctly.

"chiricahua+session+all+triggers+game(2).xls"


The issue is early on at the start, I just want to make sure I am reading it OK.


18 VL 1
13 VL 0
13 L
3   L
12 L
20 L
2  w     at this stage we are - 5

16 VL 1   this i think should have been a virtual win, so should be VL 0 this throws the following out a bit, but continue anyway
8   VL 2
7   VL 3
21 VL 2  * virtual win
17 VL 3
8   VL 4

34 L  -22
14 L  -22
31 L  -22    out total accumulative losses are now -71  -66 from this cycle and -5 from the 1st cycle

3  W  this win of 75  leaves us with a profit of 4  not 26.



Would I be correct?
Arthur.

Hi artattack.

I went over the file and noticed a few errors so here it is attached again. Hopefully it's all right now.

It's a bit tricky tracking the game like this. Much easier when actually playing.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

artattack

Thats great Skakus.


I am pretty sure I am now doing it correctly


So much so I think there is an error at line 46 onwards



15  VL0 *  This has triggered our 1 unit bet (I agree with this)
11     here you have it has  VL1  but you also show a bet of 22 units.

I think  number 11  should be an actual loss and we are only betting  11 units not 22.

I know 11 is one of the "voodoo" numbers ( I like that word) but because we are already betting it has no affect.

I think it should be

15 VL0 *  TRIGGER
11 L    11
34 L    11
10 L    11
15 W   22   we have moved to 2 units because we lost the last 3 bets


Also line number 96

The appearance of voodoo number 11 means we increase our bet from 3 to 4

so

28 L  44
14 L  44
30 L  44
22 L  55
33 W 55

Line 118
I do not think you have increased the bet by 1 due to voodoo number 29.

I have not checked any further because I am loosing track.

Again thank you for your effort and sorry about the possible corrections.


Arthur.

artattack


Hi again Skakus.


Could I check a possible error in the video that you did for Rays numbers.


We have numebrs
8    VL1
28  VL2
8     L     11
17   L     11 
23   L     11
32  w     22
29  voodoo trigger  +1
15  W     33  reduce bet by 1  following the win
27  VL 1
35  VL 2
22  VL 3
6    VL 4   this should now be our trigger following 4 VL  we are at level 2 units betting
I agree with everything up until the 6
in the video you do not make a bet, but if I am correct because we are at two units, we only need 4 VL and not 6



Quote from: Skakus on Jan 09, 04:31 PM 2013
Here you go rayhd63.

I clicked straight through your game. No sound, no tracking.


link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz_QLdRO6HA


Arthur

rayhd63

Hello Arthur,

this looks right to me. When you have 2 units holding, then start betting on either 2 virtual wins, or 4 virtual losses....

Ray


Skakus

Quote from: artattack on Jan 13, 06:26 AM 2013
that's great Skakus.


I am pretty sure I am now doing it correctly


So much so I think there is an error at line 46 onwards



15  VL0 *  This has triggered our 1 unit bet (I agree with this)
11     here you have it has  VL1  but you also show a bet of 22 units.

I think  number 11  should be an actual loss and we are only betting  11 units not 22.

I know 11 is one of the "voodoo" numbers ( I like that word) but because we are already betting it has no affect.

I think it should be

15 VL0 *  TRIGGER
11 L    11
34 L    11
10 L    11
15 W   22   we have moved to 2 units because we lost the last 3 bets


Also line number 96

The appearance of voodoo number 11 means we increase our bet from 3 to 4

so

28 L  44
14 L  44
30 L  44
22 L  55
33 W 55

Line 118
I do not think you have increased the bet by 1 due to voodoo number 29.

I have not checked any further because I am losing track.

Again thank you for your effort and sorry about the possible corrections.


Arthur.

Hello artattack,

I think you're right about the errors. I'm not very good at tracking in excel like this.

At least you get the idea.

Cheers.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Skakus

Quote from: artattack on Jan 13, 06:40 AM 2013
Hi again Skakus.


Could I check a possible error in the video that you did for Rays numbers.


We have numebrs
8    VL1
28  VL2
8     L     11
17   L     11 
23   L     11
32  w     22
29  voodoo trigger  +1
15  W     33  reduce bet by 1  following the win
27  VL 1
35  VL 2
22  VL 3
6    VL 4   this should now be our trigger following 4 VL  we are at level 2 units betting
I agree with everything up until the 6
in the video you do not make a bet, but if I am correct because we are at two units, we only need 4 VL and not 6




Arthur

The video is right. You would hold 3 after that win.

Check the other video's and you should see the same thing occur.

When you win on a voodoo number bet you drop back a stage first then a unit if necessary. So if you went up a stage to 3 units you drop back a stage to hold. Hold means hold so you bet 3 units.

If you were going down to 2 units for the next bet and a voodoo trigger hits then you would go up a stage and a unit. So the next bet is hold 3. If that wins then you drop back a stage, so back to down. Down means down so you bet 2 units.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Skakus

Quote from: rayhd63 on Jan 12, 07:57 PM 2013
Hi Nick,

whenever you got time, please have a look at that file !!

My highest was 180 units , so I have not got to my win stop of 198 units
the biggest minus was  -3916 units and ended at -2031 units

Ray


I'll play through the whole set of numbers to see where things go bad, but you should have reached the win goal on spin 107.



A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

artattack


O heck, I thought I had it.


Could you perhaps play these number again with comments to explain where I have gone wrong.


Quote

8    VL1
28  VL2
8     L     11
17   L     11 
23   L     11
32  w     22     this was a win so we stop betting here and hold  at 2 units.
29  voodoo trigger  +1     here is our voodoo number we are not betting its only a trigger  so we increase to 3 units
15  W     33  reduce bet by 1  following the win  here we get a win on 1st spin so I though we reduced the units by one.
in the video 29 is just a trigger and not a winning bet  15 is the winning bet, this is not a voodoo number
27  VL 1
35  VL 2
22  VL 3
6    VL 4   this should now be our trigger following 4 VL  we are at level 2 units betting
I agree with everything up until the 6
in the video you do not make a bet, but if I am correct because we are at two units, we only need 4 VL and not 6





Quote from: Skakus on Jan 13, 01:18 PM 2013

The video is right. You would hold 3 after that win.

Check the other video's and you should see the same thing occur.

When you win on a voodoo number bet you drop back a stage first then a unit if necessary. So if you went up a stage to 3 units you drop back a stage to hold. Hold means hold so you bet 3 units.

If you were going down to 2 units for the next bet and a voodoo trigger hits then you would go up a stage and a unit. So the next bet is hold 3. If that wins then you drop back a stage, so back to down. Down means down so you bet 2 units.







rayhd63

Hi Skakus,

QuoteI'll play through the whole set of numbers to see where things go bad, but you should have reached the win goal on spin 107.

here is my excel sheet, and please tell me where I did my mistake !!!!

How is your new MM doing ?!? Any news !?!

On that excel sheet, the way I played, it went down to over -3000 and was thinking , whenever you get to the stopp loss,
start with 1 unit !

Ray



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