Dealer question

[soggett]

I wanted to ask this a while back, but it kinda slip my mind
Do you think it is possible for the dealer to deliberately miss your numbers? Can the dealer keep hitting numbers just so you lose? Do you think they have that "power"?
What do you guys think? Or do you not think about the dealer at all?

I ask cause a while back when I was playing at WH I noticed a strange thing
There was, or still is this one dealer
what ever that I played she missed
she was completly missing everything, and not just me, the others at the table too (I saw in chat)
This woman has made me bust every single time I played with her - that can't be a coincidence, can't it?
I mean, I play, all is going good, and then she comes and I can't get a hit the whole time she is there
last time I was playing wiht her I was betting some numbers, she didn't hit me so I decided to switch numbers - guess what happened? she then hit the numbers I left behind and again failed to give me a hit
I have seen 19 uniqe numbers in a row 4 times so far ( well 4 times I noticed it  ), 3 were with her
I think that is very rare to see, don't know the exact %
I decide to stop playing if she comes and I did, even if I was in the mid of a progression - I would take the loss
guess what happened? she spun my numbers a few spins after I stopped playing
now is that all a coincidence or what? am I imagining it all?
Does the dealer really have that power to make the ball miss your bets or was I just unlucky?

the part of the reason I ask is that I wanted to post a great system that made me money but then she came and busted it
so i though ok, I will tweak it a bit
It all worked fine untill she came along again and busted me
so I tweaked again, and so on and so on...
I am out of tweaking ideas and the system performed very well but she busted me again so I don't know what to think anymore
I was starting to think that they see me making money and the pitboss is like "call that b...h to make him lose" 
but thats just silly, isn't it?

anyway, what are your thoughts on this?

[Kattila]

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Do you think it is possible for the dealer to deliberately miss your numbers? Can the dealer keep hitting numbers just so you lose? Do you think they have that "power"?   ***

Not numbers (one here other there....) but yes  sectors (like any 6 or more numbers together)......
So if you play one and same  number the dealer it s possible to deliberately miss your number
because is the same sector, but if you keep changing the number then he can not.....
If you play more then one number and this numbers are all over the wheel (not sector) then
he don t have any *power*.....


cheers

[soggett]

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Do you think it is possible for the dealer to deliberately miss your numbers? Can the dealer keep hitting numbers just so you lose? Do you think they have that "power"?   ***

Not numbers (one here other there....) but yes  sectors (like any 6 or more numbers together)......
So if you play one and same  number the dealer it s possible to deliberately miss your number
because is the same sector, but if you keep changing the number then he can not.....
If you play more then one number and this numbers are all over the wheel (not sector) then
he don't have any *power*.....


cheers

well I thought as much, thanks for your thoughts

[Spin4Fun]

Hi soggett,
Are you the guy during the weekend lost 5000euro play 33 numbers, but the dealer manage to miss the numbers you played?
Well I have noticed this too...
If I compare how the dealers spin compared to Dublinbet, i can only see that the Ladies in Latvia do way more effort to launch the ball from a certain position... (zero...) .
I also noticed that the girlls seam to hit way more  repeaters as lets say 2 months ago... I also note that they hit rate of zeros is way above of Dublinbet. 3-4 zero's in 30-35 spins...
The difference is of course these dealers dont have to worry about people at the table and calculation payouts...

[soggett]

Hi soggett,
Are you the guy during the weekend lost 5000euro play 33 numbers, but the dealer manage to miss the numbers you played?

loool
no I am not, I am not that crazy    (yet    )
nice observations, did you manage to turn that into profit somehow?

[Spin4Fun]

This one works well now
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11453.0;topicseen

[ego]

You should read more about physics ...

[soggett]

I am just curious as what you guys think about it, thats all

I know the math, I know that everything losses eventually and all that stuff
but the thing that blows my mind is that it all happens with the same dealer - thats what bugs me

[Drazen]

guess what happened? she spun my numbers a few spins after I stopped playing
now is that all a coincidence or what? am I imagining it all?

but that's just silly, isn't it?

My friend do you know how many online casinos that live feed you are talking about (casino in Latvia) serves?
How many players are all together playing at that wheel from all different casinos at the same time?
Is it possible that all are playing same numbers and areas of wheel?


OR more likely is that she has only your bets on screen and waiting just to play against you? hehe
But does she have conditions even with her maybe outstanding dealer skills, to aim just against your numbers? NO


Cheers


Drazen

[superman]

OR more likely is that she has only your bets on screen and waiting just to play against you? hehe
But does she have conditions even with her maybe outstanding dealer skills, to aim just against your numbers? NO

I agree, probably not BUT if she had an earpiece or something on her screen which tells her which area to avoid, pitboss/software can quickly calculate which area would hurt them (the casino) the most, then they could probably spin to avoid that area.

[ausguy]

Last week I played on live dealer Party Casino (part of Bwin group). The feed was from the Latvian studio with the lady dealers and their "baby doll" voices and all that. Laugh/chuckle.

With the wheel they always spun the ball in the same direction. That is the wheel clockwise and the ball anti clockwise.

Some dealers hit zeros and doubles others didn't.

I won 1,100GBP in 992 bets off a BR of 84GBP , some 17 hours of betting and so tired. Just used Marty progression. Simple outside 1 : 1 betting opposites to the last spun on H/L then O/E then R/B. I just repeated that pattern. It was just a lucky session as I withdrew 984 GBP and left 200 GBP to bet with later. At 1 point is was down -5 so it ebbed & flowed. Insurance on zero with higher bets paid off twice adding 400 to the pot. As the profit built up I would increase the 2 minimum.

2 days later I played the same way & the 200 was gone in 229 spins. They have an above average 1 : 1 bet limit range on table 1 of min. 2 & max. 2,500. The bet window is rather narrow at around 15 seconds, not good if a player needs to make lots of inside bets.

I'm presently waiting to be paid? Pay Pro does the transaction work (part of Pay Pal) the communication is good with emails keeping me informed.
3 days last week was Party casinos so called checking time for "fairness" Then Pay Pro emails me Friday informing of approval and that payment can be expected in 2 - 5 days. Only business days count with their transactions. So any weekends & holidays add to the time.

This is another area the regulators should crack down on. Like I made my deposit via my Visa debit card in 1 minute but they can take up to 1 1/2 weeks to pay out?

Once I get paid (Ozzy dollars) this will bankroll me for a visit my local casino.
I'll be using elements of Pattern 4 even money betting as hit & run on multiple tables. I'll be using the marquee numbers as triggers & betting opposites on all 3 options in order. H/L, O/E & R/B.

I've made a few non betting visits to test the method with virtual bets. All tests gave virtual winners so that gives me some confidence to push the money out, once Party comes good with my $$$$. I'll need all of it with the min.chip bet of $25 (max. is $1k).
3 bet levels is $25, $50 & $100 = $175 x 6 banks (2 banks for each option) = $1050 BR.   

[soggett]

 

My friend do you know how many online casinos that live feed you are talking about (casino in Latvia) serves?
How many players are all together playing at that wheel from all different casinos at the same time?
Is it possible that all are playing same numbers and areas of wheel?


OR more likely is that she has only your bets on screen and waiting just to play against you? hehe
But does she have conditions even with her maybe outstanding dealer skills, to aim just against your numbers? NO


Cheers


Drazen

My firend when you put it like that...
then I see you are right, must have been just my imagination or something, bad luck I suppose
but it really shuck me good

I agree, probably not BUT if she had an earpiece or something on her screen which tells her which area to avoid, pitboss/software can quickly calculate which area would hurt them (the casino) the most, then they could probably spin to avoid that area.

wow, good thing I was playing with cents   
but if they can do that then we are f...d 

[superman]

but if they can do that then we are f...d

I don't see why they can't, obviousley they can't/won't get it right everytime but if they are told what to avoid I am sure they can avoid segments, think for yourself, if you are spinning and throwing the ball for months, you should start to geta feel of where your throw will land, it's all physics and it's YOU that is creating the forces, don't tell me they cant hit something fairly accuratley, I think they can.

[soggett]

I don't see why they can't, obviousley they can't/won't get it right everytime but if they are told what to avoid I am sure they can avoid segments, think for yourself, if you are spinning and throwing the ball for months, you should start to geta feel of where your throw will land, it's all physics and it's YOU that is creating the forces, don't tell me they can't hit something fairly accuratley, I think they can.

I see, you are right, after a while you should get the feeling and could influence the spin, but how do we fight that then?

[ugly bob]

..............in that case

go to a land based casino and only play on busy tables where plenty of chips are scattered everywhere. They can't aim against everybody!

If you watch the dealers on dublinbet, you can tell by watching their action that they are not spinning to try and hit anything specific.

Stop winding people up Superman