Dec 21st, 2012 - What is your prediction?

[Skakus]

Anyone up for a bet?

I bet $1B the world doesn't end. If it doesn't end, you owe me biiig.

You're on!

I bet $1B the world DOES end, and when it does you owe me biiig!... well we probably won’t be here to settle so hopefully my distant descendants will be able to collect from you’re distant descendants. They will probably all be living temporarily on one of Jupiter’s terraformed moons by then because our planet will have been swallowed up by the ever expanding sun, and $1B will probably be just enough to buy a double shot latte at the Europa Cafe, but hey, at least I will have won the bet!   

[GARNabby]

This shows a cycle of human evolution, where we go from the "golden age" to the "dumbarse ignorant" stage. The top/yellow part is the golden age, and the buttom is the "dumbarse" stage. We are currently in the "dumbarse" stage.

We're merely somewhere along the (paradoxical) middle of the evolutionary process.  What came before is a matter of type; after, a matter of degree.  Call it the "human condition".

[Still]

Here's some perspective from our Stellan freinds:

97 - ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA - Nibiru and Events

My perspective is that overall, we experience cycles...round and round...until we get off the wheel.  Death is a period in a long story about a journey away from home, and back again.  It looks like evolution, but i prefer to think of it as drama.  As actors, we can exit stage right or stage left. Left leads back onstage in another costume, to play another role.  Stage right exit is to let go of a material universe through disinterest in any kind of drama. 

December 21 is, in our annual orbit, the darkest time of year, at least in the northern hemisphere.  This is symbolic.  All symbols are relative to what's being experienced by the mind that makes a material world.  Darkness is symbolic as well, symbolizing ignorance and confusion.  It could be argued that the mind that makes a material world is ignorant and confused, and that this is the darkest point in it's descent into the unknowns of unreality. 

The mind that makes a material world may be a bit beyond the darkest point, and is heading back to the light of knowledge and knowing (rather than the darkness of thinking, imagining and believing).   So if you can think of this mind as making one single journey into darkness and back again, and compare that to an annual cycle, it (and therefore we) may be positioned at approximately where Christmas is positioned in an annual orbit.  We are past the darkest point and starting to head back into the light.  Because this single cycle is measured in millions of years, it could be said that even 2000 years ago, the darkened mind was at the point of Christmas in it's journey back to all-knowing. 

So a golden age, if there is one, is also symbolic, just as our summer is better than our winter (unless you like the cold and the darkness).  A golden age is symbolic of a return to a divine Self.  What's different about this divine Self is that it does NOT change.  So, cycles are NOT a normal aspect of such a Being's experience.  Change, to a perfect Being, ultimately means less-than-perfect...and ultimately, less-than-perfect is unacceptable.  "Be ye perfect" is a call we began to hear 2000 years ago, and will hear it more and more as the mind that descends into imperfection rises again to it's place in an eternal perfection, which is ultimately a divine Self. 

In a perfect world, there is no material world.  That is, there is nothing (no mass) that is formed by particles and particle physics.  So there are no Higgs bosons, no "god particles", no electrons...not even our much-worshiped "energy".   Energy will ultimately be seen as a sacred cow.  In a perfect world, there is no *relative*, so there is no E=MC2.  A perfect world is not material, it is spiritual. Nor is it a place or a condition, it is a Being, one that is Spirit. 

A material world is formed out of the imagination of an otherwise perfect Being.  Imagination is essentially a mind that wanders away from reality.  To a Being that IS reality itself, this type of wandering is a journey away from a sense of true Self.  It becomes an actor on a stage that wears costumes and masks.  None of which are true, all of which are scripted roles.  A script is ultimately a *story*...a fiction.  When this story is believed by a powerful Being, it takes on the flavor of "reality", and takes on a "life" of it's own.  The mind is most dark when it is most fully believing in the story.  At that point it is really confused about reality.  This is where we find our "selves" in the ages of time. 

To a mind that is normally perfect, imagination represents the consideration of all that is imperfect.  A world of ever-changing cycles is imperfect, and yet, it is extremely tempting.  The mind that considers it will not let go of it's focus until it has explored every avenue, and become *weary*.  To such a mind, planets, and their orbits around centers of either light or darkness (black holes) is ultimately a ridiculous proposition.  We do not deserve this!  We deserve better. 

We have a destiny, just as every mind that sleeps is destined to wake up.  There is only one mind that sleeps, and dreams of a material world...of another self consisting of many selves.  Because there is only one mind that sleeps and dreams, it is the destiny of ALL to awaken to a true sense of Self.  It should be obvious that so long as we cherish a sense of uniquely different selves, we cherish an imperfect world where inequality, and therefore hierarchy are the miserable status quo.   We are destined for a return to equality.  The only way for us to be equal is for all of us to be equally unlimited.  This is our normal state of Being.   If there are other such Beings, they are also equal.  This is only possible in a world of Spirit. Equality is impossible in a world of material, where one form is different from another. 

So there is hope.  Let us help our hope by withdrawing the belief we have invested in a material world, and in unequal selves distributed along a relative continuum of unknowing.  Let us not cherish a substitute brand of knowing which is just an accumulation of information about how a dreaming mind functions.  The function of a dreaming mind can never make any sense.  There is ultimately no rhyme or reason to circumstances apart from reality.  There is nothing such a mind can gain from adding another world, apart from reality, to it's inventory of ownership.  There isn't anything material worth owning. 

I just meant to post a video and it turned into a sermon.  But i think it's a damn good sermon.  I will continue to endeavor to keep the "good news" actually GOOD.  What currently passes for "good" is actually pretty ridiculous.  There is ultimately only one GOOD, and happily, it is also a Self...in it's normal environment (home). 

Be well...
Be...
~Still Christ!
December 21, 2012

[ignatus]

I doubt a collective dimensional shift of 2012. It only happens to individuals already on some spiritual path. On a 3rd dimensional level nothing will ever happen. The paranormal becomes reality in the 4th and 5th dimension. About religion. I respect all religions, but after having some paranormal experiences and experimenting with psychedelic drugs, it's hard to go back to the old world view (and old belief systems) also after being outside my own cultural setting for one year (in Asia) I can say for definite im not religious, but I know the paranormal/spiritual world is real. But it exist as in another parallel dimension separated from 3rd dimension reality/logic.

[Turner]

we can do it! We can sit in a theatre or a cinema and laugh, cry, jump out of our skin because we "didnt expext that".
I still struggle watching the scene in Casino (very apt) when they have the guys head in a vice.
Its so real....but you know it isnt. You dont need therapy for trauma after watching Casino.

But we can put ourselfs 90% into a film/book/play....and even more so, a dream. Infact, we are 100% into a dream until we awake.

The way to eternal peace is to do the same with real life. thats the challange. See real life as a play or movie. attach fior the moment, but dont take the thought with you. jealousy, revenge, hatred, intollerance are all thoughts. Nothing else.

When you dont realise this, you put your faith in a God...in an astronomical event...in a faith to something exterior.

[TwoCatSam]

I'm sad.  If you can't trust the Mayans, who can you trust?

Congress?

TwoCat

[Steve]

1. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS)  purchased a shitload of hollow point bullets. These are expensive bullets designed to kill. The DHS says they were buying in bulk to save money, and that its just for training. So why all the hollow point bullets? link:://rt.com/usa/dhs-hollow-bullets-purchase-855/

The DHS plans to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next four or five years .As for the hollow point bullets, they are allegedly purchased for training. However, former Marine Richard Mason told WHPTV news, “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t even see hollow points my entire four-and-a-half years in the Marine Corps."

2. Part of the US Government are pushing for gun control. Their actions are a stepping stone to make the population easier to control. link:://:.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/senate-shoots-down-gun-control-push/story-fnay3ubk-1226623822347

Notice how they use victims of gun violence to pull at heart strings.

3. How hard are they pushing to censor the internet??
link:://tech2.in.com/features/general/internet-censorship-a-growing-concern/666872


Seriously guys, this is all happening. Spend a few hours at link:://:.infowars.com/ and watch videos: link:://:.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel?feature=watch

This is not paranoia. It is absolutely real. It is not conspiracy as such. It is a small group of very powerful people who don't care about you. They only care about securing their continued power. And they know people are becoming more aware. They know emerging technology will reduce our dependence for food and energy. They are pushing their agenda because they know they have limited time to do what they need.

Watch out for more bombings, more shootings and more kinds of things they will use to try and change laws, declare martial law and so on. I'm not saying every bombing is a staged event - there certainly are genuine nuts that act alone to do silly things.

You can't hide from what is going on. This will all be in your face whether you like it or not.. even if for now it appears to just be news on TV. You can either fight against it, or submit to slavery. And most of us already slaves but don't know it. They are going to keep pushing harder and harder until we submit, or we remove their power. I'm sure they would rather see billions die than them lose control. So things can get a lot worse.

[Steve]

RFID CHIP Coming March 23, 2013 - 12/31/2017 ( Full Movie )

They have tried to implement it before, but failed. They will keep trying.

[Steve]

This is absolutely real. If you doubt it, then you haven't done your research. Keep a close eye on :.infowars.com until the site is closed. Right now it all isnt in our faces, or so it seems because we don't see we are already slaves. And later with things like the RFID chip, you may believe the government and think it really is best for us... or you'll cave into pressure because you won't be able to buy or sell without it.

Mark of the Beast : Obama introduces the RFID BRAIN Initiatve to read your thoughts (Apr 3, 2013)

This is the real "2012". It is really happening and its not going to be pretty. Really we're all going to need to make a choice of one way or the other.

Drop what you are doing whether it be work to pay debts to banks or whatever, and dedicate the time to research so you know what's happening.

Obama is so concerned for our health. About terrorism. Our lives. How much has he spent on war? How many terrorists have killed people. How many people have died from heart disease? How much has been spent on heart disease research? And why has the heart disease cure from Linus Pauling been ignored?

Christian Family Refuses Mandatory RFID Chip at Texas School

I mean, wake the **** up to what is happening. You can't open the eyes of every ignorant fool, but you can take measures to protect yourself. It doesn't mean building a bunker and stock-piling food. It means having the ability to not rely on money to live. Start with :.ic.org - IC (Intentional Communities) are like villages or communities that have the capability to live completely off the grid if needed. Most are partially off the grid. But when the need arises, they wont need money to survive.

[atlantis]

Is this the "End of Britain"?

Scary stuff for UK members....

The debt time bomb that is Britain.

A.

[amk]

I have not looked at the videos atlantis or read posts, only a few comments.


Just wanted to say that things are better then they seem.


There is another economic system which can let the world prosper.


It seems that the current system has to do very poorly before this new system is started.


Don't ask me why : )




We will slowly become a new Atlantis atlantis : )

[Steve]

The idea is the old system will be crashed via debt, and then replaced with global currency for greater control. It is already happening.

If they have full control over currency, they will have full control over everyone that uses it. How much do you rely on money?

Atlantis, its not just the UK - its the entire world and what is happening is intentional. Also that video misses some crucial elements about how this problem occurred (ie by design) but has some very good info. One one point, the debt helped Hitler come to power, same as the NWO intend it to be, acting to be the savior and solution to the problem they created. And interesting fact is Hitler was funded by Wall st, among names, the Bush family.

And gold investments? NO. You can't eat gold and it will be as worthless as paper money soon. First and foremost, food

One of the key solutions is living without money. We really don't need it. Its just that we've been conditioned to think that we do. An early stage solution is :.ic.org

[amk]

Hey Steve,


I feel that when looking at the global situation we should not just look at the negative/dark side for you are only getting a one sided view. One thing is for sure there is dark and there is Light. Logically we can say that Light will ultimately prevail, there can be no other way.


I have looked at both the dark and the Light and can say that the Light is gaining much ground. This is what Dec 21 2012 is all about, the turnaround point. to say that it is now time for the dark to flourish is not correct. As I am sure you will agree this is all about frequency levels aka Light. These frequencies or influx of Light will only exponentially increase from here on. The dark was able to thrive due to the low frequencies our planet was in. Global warming is actually a positive sign of this phenomena and will level off. All planets are experiencing "global warming" due to the new energy field/Light field the solar system is moving in and of which the Mayans spoke.


What is needed for us to make the changes happen more swiftly is for us to remain positive, don't fear or panic. Understand the message of the Light and not the last vestiges of darkness. 


Obama is fully aware of all aspects and we are in good hands.


Look toward a positive future and we will help create it.


Sincerely,
AMK

[Ralph]

I'm sad.  If you can't trust the Mayans, who can you trust?

Congress?

TwoCat

I like that Sam!


The Mayans were smart to put it so far away in time, they did not need to face they were wrong.
The Congress and Senate, do nothing, and let the country be ruled by some automatic stuff.


We had a funny problem in the Kindom of Sweden, after 1974 we change to a parlament using just one chamber in stead of two.
They set the number of MP to 350, and (this will some not understand in US as they do not use it, it is used in Europe except France). The political blocks got 175 - 175, so the speaker has to draw the decisions from a lottery equipment. Later the change the numbers to 349.

[Steve]

AMK, I agree with most of what you said. However,


1. Obama is not a savior. His policies show what he is, and he's another one of them.


2. Sure light will overcome. But I believe things will get much darker before then, and it will be an act of desperation from people who will try to maintain control. Desperate because people are waking up to who and what they are. And when that happens, they lose control.


Whatever the case, it is certain... The new world order is not a group of people. It is the "solution" that we are going to be presented with.... to apparently solve all our problems. The one world government among other things. And it will probably be achieved by them, because it will come with perks that will be too good to resist for most, like potentially wiping debts.


Whether or not I'm right, time will tell.


Growing food and self-sufficiency is one of their greatest threats. Take Monsato for example, and the attempts to make growing your own food illegal. Its all out there. I'd hate to be in the USA right now - its the hotspot for global tyranny. I hope that doesn't offend anyone. Its not an attack on its people at all. Its just that the USA is being driven into the group and a police state by design.