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An early Christmas gfit ( hopefully )

Started by soggett, Dec 18, 09:43 AM 2012

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soggett

This is a Christmas gift ( hopefully ) from me to our forum family here, enjoy

Preface:
First I need to thank Drazen_Cro because without him this system would not exist. I actually got the idea from one of his systems (its called shot on 3rd, you can find it here on the forum).

I made a simple system, run a few tests, it looked good so I started playing it. It was the first version of the system, let's call it version 1.0
With 1.0 I managed to take $100 and turn in into $2000 in about 3 months (not playing every day, no goal or anything)
It performed great, but then it failed big time. I upped the unit value and lost quite a lot.

From then I have tweeked and tweeked, every time getting better results.
This version is my final, I have no more tweekes left that I can think of ( at the moment  ;D )
I'll give you the system first, then the stats

Ok, the system:
we track numbers as they come in
when a number comes up twice we start betting on it (we mark it somehow, I use excell so I paint the cell)
as new numbers come in we start betting on them too (and marking them also)
we do this for up to 4 numbers
if we have more than 4 numbers that hit twice we mark the rest in a different colour or different mark (we have to keep track of them also) but we do not bet them, just mark them
we win when one of our numbers hits for the third time
if lets say we have 6 numbers that come up twice - we bet the first 4 only
and if the 6th number hits the third time (meaning we didn't get a hit with our first 4 numbers) we then change and bet the 6th number and the 3 before that (so we would then bet 6th, 5th, 4th and 3rd number that came up twice)
if we had 9 numbers and the 6th hit we would then bet 6th, 9th, 8th and the 7th
do you get this? I will give example later
now, when one of our 4 numbers hit we win and start a new session from start - so we start tracking from begining
when our 4 numbers don't hit and we change numbers we keep betting and going up the progression but we also start a new session and keep track of it (we do not bet, just keep track of it). So when we do get a hit we can switch to the new session and either start betting if we have triggers or if we don't have a trigger we will have some numbers to shorten tracking time

the progression used is the classic one, you need to calculate it as you add numbers so that on a hit you are always at plus (even 1 unit)

Ok, here are some simple examples so you can understand it better, I will use numbers 1-10 to keep it as simple as possible

here is a simple example of win with first 4 numbers bet:
numbers coming in:
1
2
1 -start betting 1
3
4
2 - start betting 1 and 2
3 - bet 1,2 and 3
4 - bet 1,2,3 and 4
1 - win - end session +24 units, start from scratch

next example
1
2
3
1 - start betting 1
2 - bet 1 and 2
3 - bet 1,2 and 3
4
5
6
4 - bet 1,2,3 and 4
5 - mark only, dont bet
6 - mark only dont bet
1 - win, end session +9 units, start new

this next session will be with switching numbers
ok, numbers coming in:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
1 - bet 1
2 - bet 1,2
3 - bet 1,2,3
4 - bet 1,2,3,4
8 - mark only
7 - mark only
6 - mark only
5 - mark only
9
9 - mark only
7 - we missed the first 4 - now start betting 7,9,5,6 and we start tracking a new session while betting numbers from the previous session
1
2
3
1 - mark, dont bet (new session)
2 - mark, dont bet (new session)
7 - we win, +18 units and start betting 1 and 2 for the new session
3 - bet 1,2,3
1 - win, +31 units, start new session

If the new session ends before we get our hit (happenes rarely) we treat it as a missed session and start tracking the next one
Thats it, it's really simple when you get a hang of it

The stats:
The BR I use is 1000 units
I tested this over 10 000 live played spins â€" it ended +8801 units, progression failed only 1 time
33% of the time the first number to repeat is the winning number
5 out of 6 times the one of the first 4 numbers to repeat is the winner
The net gain is anywhere from 35 to 1 unit (it sucks when you get only 1 but hey money is money)

Playing this way we are betting current hot numbers, if our numbers get cold we switch
Try it out and you'll see how it performs

I have arranged with Victor to make a tracker for this to make it easier to play and to test
When its ready it will be posted here

There you go, ask away if you have questions

And a merry Christmas to you all
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

ignatus

Nice system soggett! :) This is similar to Juggler. I've had success with repeaters too, but guess you're playing it in a more clever way, and only 4 numbers. I didn't get all the rules. :S Will look into it later.

Thanks
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

ugly bob

Thank you soggett for the early christmas gift. Very nice of you.


soggett

Quote from: ignatus on Dec 18, 10:05 AM 2012
Nice system soggett! :) This is similar to Juggler. I've had success with repeaters too, but guess you're playing it in a more clever way, and only 4 numbers. I didn't get all the rules. :S Will look into it later.

Thanks

glad you like it, it is similar but then again all repeater systems are
I hope it's a more clever way ;)
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

soggett

Quote from: ugly bob on Dec 18, 10:12 AM 2012
Thank you soggett for the early christmas gift. Very nice of you.

No problem bob, hope it makes you money
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Smoczoor

sogget u are SANTA CLAUS... first test result is very good!


soggett

Quote from: Smoczoor on Dec 18, 02:06 PM 2012
sogget You are SANTA CLAUS... first test result is very good!
;D
glad to hear that ;)
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Smoczoor

i want to fully understand this amazing system so i have first question...

this is real spins:

18
36
18    - bet on 18
11
33
22
20
1
8
11    - bet on 18, 11
10
5
35
5     - bet on 18, 11, 5
19
35
21
35    - bet on 18, 11, 5 ,35
36
5      - HIT bankroll +7 units  (do i have to track from beggining or do i have to use some numbers?)
29
7
14
13
9
14
22
12
4
29
15
23
28
15
13
30
34
24
20
2
5
15
35
31
18
22
6
5


OK - my bad!  I read once again your rules and i have to track from beggining :)

soggett

yes, you just start over, new session
I got +1 out of that string of numbers, when 5 hits

TCS - why oops?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Smoczoor

 :o
QuoteI got +1 out of that string of numbers, when 5 hits

i have +7 units with my Roulette Extreme...


OMG i have to sleep - there is mistake  :) my bad...

soggett

Quote from: Smoczoor on Dec 18, 02:25 PM 2012

18
36
18    - bet on 18
11  -1
33  -1
22  -1
20  -1
-1
-1
11    - bet on 18, 11    -1
10 -2
-2
35  -2
5     - bet on 18, 11, 5   -2
19  -3 
35  -3
21  -3
35    - bet on 18, 11, 5 ,35  -3
36  -4
5     +32
I get +1 here
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

TwoCatSam

Oh, I read something someone sent to me by email all wrong.  I thought it was just like your system---and it is similar---but not the same.

I should have read them both more carefully.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Smoczoor

soggett u have right :)

18
36
18    - bet on 18
11  -1
33  -1
22  -1
20  -1
1  -1
8  -1
11    - bet on 18, 11    -1
10 -2
5  -2
35  -2
5     - bet on 18, 11, 5   -2
19  -3 
35  -3
21  -3
35    - bet on 18, 11, 5 ,35  -3
36  -4
5     +32


but it should look like this:

18
36
18    - bet on 18
11  -1
33  -1
22  -1
20  -1
1  -1
8  -1
11    - bet on 18, 11    -1
10 -2
5  -2
35  -2
5     - bet on 18, 11, 5   -2
19  -3 
35  - bet on 18,11,5,35 -4
21  -4
35  -4 (-29 + 36) HIT +7
36 
5     

Smoczoor

soggett 3 very important questions:

1)
Quoteprogression failed only 1 time
how many money you loose? what did u do after lose?

2) your biggest bet on number?

3) any stop-lose?


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