Touching numbers

[Turner]

When 2 numbers are touching ( 2,3   17,18   34,35) IN THE LAST 5, play them 2 and pre/post numbers.
Do not cross zero. On a repeat, 2 before, one after. Always make 4.
Ex. 2,17,22,4,18. Play 16,17,18,19
Ex. 14,22,36,2,36 play 33,34,35,36
Ex. 16,22,34,19,16 play 14,15,16,17
Ex. 33,36,31,0,12,21,0 play 0,1,2,3

Play numbers until a new touching pair comes and switch.
If the win forms a touching pair or the same touching pair as last trigger......continue.

Testing to follow.
Turner

[Turner]

Fistly, why am I doing this?

Numbers clump together and its worth trying to do something with that imbalance within 5 spins.

Also, incorporating "close number" ideas, if we have some plus balance, we can add a number to the close 4. i.e.  22,31,33,14,1,6,13 (bet 12,13,14,15), 21, 13 win......bet still valid with 2x13 (so bet 11,12,13,14),10 (we have a plus balance so add 10 as it touches, betting 10,11,12,13,14), 31,12 Win

Below, i added 8 onto 9,10,11,12 because I was in a plus balance and it came out twice 3 spins later.

This graph means i will test further at least.

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Turner

[Turner]

I continued the above session

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[vundarosa]

you know this is vooodoo, right?!

anyways, you could also try the same principle with the actual location of the numbers on the wheel, meaning, betting sectors.....

vundarosa

[Turner]

you know this is vooodoo, right?!

anyways, you could also try the same principle with the actual location of the numbers on the wheel, meaning, betting sectors.....

vundarosa

Vundarosa

Voodoo....I disagree, although it depends what you class as voodoo. My idea of voodoo is 31 follows 13, 21 follows 12.....when 9 hits, bet 18,27....when 2 hits, bet 2,20,30 Absolutly no proof or reason for it to happen

My Idea here is to see when random seems to be clumping numbers. I don't think the wheel layout makes any difference. The wheel layout is man made like dozens and streets. The marquee is what to follow. Just the output. Not painted slots and conveniently grouped sections (my view...not a real world view)

This is trying to monopolise on an imbalance. When i see close numbers, the trend may follow. Voodoo is from a script not trend based.

If you watch RX set at a watchable automatic speed and look at  statistics/numbers chart, you see the hit numbers dance around in the same area temporarily.... 13,11,11,16,12, for a small period.

Also, this idea bets around repeated numbers sometimes too...which repeat again. That isnt Voodoo either.

If this is Voodoo, then all systems are Voodoo and we are left with VB or cheating and getting an iphone to do it for us.

Again, I make it clear that its my view, and in no way intend to undermines your view that
it is Voodoo. I'm not preaching.

Turner

An interesting caveat....I got the idea last night messing with my Moog set to sample and hold random notes.....it appears to hit the same area of notes briefly

[iggiv]

this is real temp effect, or just a bias of this particular wheel

[Turner]

this is real temp effect, or just a bias of this particular wheel

I can agree....but note...this is an observation in notepad. No claims of greatness in the Main Roulette Board. Not a system.....just an observation written down. It may inspire someone to make a better system, or myself modify it. I dont own what I observed.

Turner

[Spin4Fun]

Test with real money on the Lativian online casino, 4 hits in 40 spins...

[Skakus]

Turner,

I've been working with this idea for a while now and have built a system around this clumping of numerical numbers that has survived 30,000 actuals with about 5% profit on turnover, and that's flat betting.

Of course I do it differently, but that's not to say your idea isn't better. The main thing is you have stumbled on to a very reliable trigger source with loads of potential. 

Do not dismiss random's ability to produce the same effect using the wheel order. I have studied it long and hard and can tell you there is insignificant difference in the results between the two number associations. That said, there is a huge practical advantage to using the numerical sequence for tracking and betting.


Here is the link to the system I’m referring to. I called it  The Texas Sharpshooter  link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9330.msg77907#msg77907  perhaps it will give you some ideas on how to take this clumping notion further. 




I have a question.

With repeats what made you settle on 2 before 1 after and not the other way around?



it seems you have officially joined the voodoo club.

[Skakus]

 
In my opinion you should always respect the probability of any chosen bet. In this case the bet is 4 numbers, so the probability demands a hit within 9 attempts. By your example you are open to the possibility of continuous betting and or switching, so the best way to acknowledge the running probability is perhaps with a staking plan that resets or changes after any win, or any 9 bet loss. Nothing too steep, as little as +1 -1 could be enough to lift this a few % points if set up correctly. 

[Skakus]

 


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[Turner]

Turner,

I've been working with this idea for a while now and have built a system around this clumping of numerical numbers that has survived 30,000 actuals with about 5% profit on turnover, and that's flat betting.

Of course I do it differently, but that's not to say your idea isn't better. The main thing is you have stumbled on to a very reliable trigger source with loads of potential. 

Do not dismiss random's ability to produce the same effect using the wheel order. I have studied it long and hard and can tell you there is insignificant difference in the results between the two number associations. That said, there is a huge practical advantage to using the numerical sequence for tracking and betting.


Here is the link to the system I’m referring to. I called it  The Texas Sharpshooter  link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9330.msg77907#msg77907  perhaps it will give you some ideas on how to take this clumping notion further. 




I have a question.

With repeats what made you settle on 2 before 1 after and not the other way around?



it seems you have officially joined the voodoo club.

Thanks skakus....I seem to remember you saying that before, re: the table layout and wheel layout are similar in results...and ...I had that vey point in mind when thinking of this. I actually lean toards output rather than wheel layout. Ive always used the marque...and as you say, due the the fact there is little difference, its prudent to take numbers due to the utterly simple way to track and observe at a live table.

as for the selection with a repeat....I have to stick to one way or the other to stay with 4 numbers.
It is an issue with double 0,1, double 2, double 35 and 36 so I just chose that. Thats Voodoo I guess.

Like I said, I see this in sets of numbers. I feel close numbers is more of a feature of random than 13 follows 31......so Ill settle for semi-Voodoo 

[Turner]

In my opinion you should always respect the probability of any chosen bet. In this case the bet is 4 numbers, so the probability demands a hit within 9 attempts. By your example you are open to the possibility of continuous betting and or switching, so the best way to acknowledge the running probability is perhaps with a staking plan that resets or changes after any win, or any 9 bet loss. Nothing too steep, as little as +1 -1 could be enough to lift this a few % points if set up correctly.

I will study this closer when I get back from the knees up tomorrow night....thats if the world hasnt ended

[TwoCatSam]

Well, it's Voodoo, for sure, but I'll not discount it for that!! 

Think about this:  The numbers are scattered about the actual wheel, so the only reason this would win is my old theory that certain numbers encourage other numbers to appear.  (Not trying to take credit for your idea, Turner.) 

I've been watching Ralph's bot play on BV.  It's amazing how often 27 and 24 fall close to each other or whichever number came.  Maybe I should look to see if this is the reason.

Sam

[Turner]

Thanks Sam, but I am begining to think that the wheel is another illusion.

At the end of the day, forget what produces the numbers...its about the numbers.

This may be bollox....but!!....its the path I am taking at present to help me focus on some new ideas.
You can't be ignatus and produce 15 ideas a week, some dozens, some hot numbers, some wheel sectors, some streets, some lines...they are all different concepts and you will have quantity not quality.

I am sticking to "the numbers are all we have" so i can focus for a while.

Its a thought experiment in a way.

"Imagine we have a telescope and every 2 mins  we see a little square of paper on a stick come over a wall in the distance. On the paper is a number between 0 and 37. Just accept for once these are produced randomly in some way. That all you have.

There are no distractions. Wheel bias, dealer signature, bent airball machines, visual ballistics.

Just numbers. Now do something with those numbers.

(and what would we say?...LoL..."I noticed the guy on wednsday who holds the numbers over the wall gives a lot of repeaters")

Forget all that just for a week or so. Numbers... numbers.... numbers

Im not saying all the other ideas arnt correct. I am forgetting them for a while.

Turner