A NEW WAY TO BEAT THE WHEEL--FLAT BET--thk.to Frank Jonson

[TwoCatSam]

FLATman

A guy is famous (or infamous)  in America for having an imaginary girl friend.  This was some guy, not a girl, teasing him on-line.  Sending him pictures and all that and talking in a high-pitched voice so he'd think it was a girl.  Two years he spent doing this.  Said he was in love with her.

It's really not an insult.  We had a movie "Harvey" about a guy who had an imaginary giant rabbit for a friend.  Jimmy Stewart starred.  Don't know who played Harvey.....

I'm sure your friend is real.  It was only a joke, a little humor.  Here in the U.S.A., we need a lot of humor.  We in the toilet and Obama is flushing!  So we make jokes.  Keeps us from crying so much.

Sorry.

Truly, I am going to leave you be.  Good luck, good health and God bless!

Sam

[ilukan]

Sam,
Well maybe the problem comes from my side...not understanding that kind of humor of couple words.
I have no issue or any poblems with you,even when I was upset with some of your past comments/
about grasping L v F/but comes along this RobH fella constantly repeating that Lv F doesn't work and why am
I fooling ppl.here.....Fooling??Am I selling something or scamming sombody.I won in one night changing tables
more then he will probably earn with his wages in 5 years.....and he claims it doesn't work.What's wrong with such person Sam,
maybe you could help me to grasp him.Why he is knocking on my doors only almost on daily basis????I don't owe him
anything,but I think he oves explanations of his claims ...black on white....same two of us did showing it working.
Am I right.And again I will repeat ....Changing tables with L v F is much stronger and secure bet then betting it on one table.
After all any body can test my claims,same as you do all the time Sam,but the problem here is there are too much ideas every day
and ppl.rarelly get testing seriously any.

[TwoCatSam]

OK, FLAT......

Brother, I meant no harm.  I like you.  You have given us a system that--despite what anyone says--is working for me the way I play it.

Rob?  Can't speak for him.  He is a very negative person.  Maybe his intentions are good, but he comes across as one who throws lots of rocks.

My stats to date:

Started with #1,000
Now at #1,750 in about five or six days.  Bear in mind, this takes into account the table going down three times a day and working to perfect the bot.  Not all time was play time.

I have the bot set for a win/loss or 72 units.  A loss takes the D'Alembert up one and a win takes it down one.

My largest draw down was #112.

When I hit #1,000 in profit, I will try to fund the account with real money and play for real.

Sam

[ilukan]

I know very well it works/from the first day of this year am testing--changing tables approach--and you know what Sam,
on flat bet basis it only lost 3 times of 41 sessions.......it tells you all......

[DuffMiver]

I know very well it works/from the first day of this year am testing--changing tables approach--and you know what Sam,
on flat bet basis it only lost 3 times of 41 sessions.......it tells you all......

I may be stupid or simply missed something with all the mud slinging.  Can someone explain how to play this system please

[Turner]

by professional players who earn a living with roulette, and casino staff who apply countermeasures. You never get countermeasures against red/black systems etc because they are a casino's dream come true.

@Steve....what you said got me thinking

Blackjack countermeasures were the Continuous Shuffling Machine. It stopped advantage play (card Counting)
Progressions countermeasures were house limits and table limits.
How soon do you think casinos (land) will introduce a countermeasure for VB and physics.....1st easy step is no bets after the ball is released. That could be introduced with no cost at all (already in online casinos of course)

Card counting is now dead, but they still sit at the BJ table.
VB and Physics would also be dead.

Turner

[Drazen]

@Steve....what you said got me thinking

How soon do you think casinos (land) will introduce a countermeasure for VB and physics.....1st easy step is no bets after the ball is released. That could be introduced with no cost at all (already in online casinos of course)

In no bets after ball is released lies big psychological trick for casino that affects many players. So be sure there is reason why that is still so, despite maybe possibility of Advantage-play. How come smart pit bosses didn't think of that LoL

There are already enough countermeasures nowadays in modern casinos for them not to be afraid of being depleted so easy as you think.

Online casinos are different story.

Cheers

Drazen

[Skakus]

No more bets would certainly put the kibosh on VB & computor players.

I'm sure the casinos have done their homework and probably feel too many losing players who think they can win placing bets after ball release would be reluctant to play under those conditions.

If they put up with the rare few VB & computor player sharks, they get to keep all the small fish in their nets.

[Steve]

Yes I agree card-counting is just about dead. Too few opportunities now. Thats why Im developing the equipment to see through cards.

As for VB and computers, certainly calling no more bets earlier stops them. As per my site:

15. What if casinos do not permit bets after spins anymore? Wont this make the computer worthless?

It is unlikely most casinos will ever forbid bets after ball release. This is because calling no more bets after ball release speeds up the game, so more bets are wagered, and the casino ultimately earns more. There are far more losers than winning roulette computer users, so it is not financially viable for casinos to call no more bets before the ball is released. However, if bets after spins were no longer permitted, you could still use the software's pattern analysis features which enable you predict where the ball will land, even if bets are placed before the spin. This pattern analysis feature specifically looks for part of the patterns for the system explained at :.genuinewinner.com. Additionally, you will be given free access to the :.roulettesystemanalysis.com software used by genuinewinner.com players to beat roulette with bets before the ball release.


Essentially sure casinos could do this, but it overall not justified for them to do it all the time. So instead they only call no more bets earlier IF a player is suspected of using a computer. There is no "back room", bashing or banning. They just call no more bets earlier. As I say often, its not so much about beating the wheel. Its more about not being detected.

[iggiv]

thanx for the explanation Steve. I read in gambling books that for casinos to allow placing bets after ball release is a smart move, but nobody so far explained why. Now i understand.

[starkygold]

Yes I agree card-counting is just about dead. Too few opportunities now. that's why I'm developing the equipment to see through cards.

I heard about that. Its a lens that can see the border of any card right ? 

[ddarko]

You never get countermeasures against red/black systems etc because they are a casino's dream come true.

@ Steve

Would you get countermeasures if instead of betting red/black you bet streets 1/2/5/9/11/12 or 3/4/6/7/8/10 for example ?

Do the casino see that as different even though it's still 18 numbers V 18 numbers ?

[Bettor 27]

I know very well it works/from the first day of this year am testing--changing tables approach--and you know what Sam,
on flat bet basis it only lost 3 times of 41 sessions.......it tells you all......

Hi Flat,

Can you please list the 3 losses in units so we can get an idea of the drawdown?

[ilukan]

Hi Flat,

Can you please list the 3 losses in units so we can get an idea of the drawdown?

3,6,7.......and also am due to mention the largest win was 22.......it varies from 2 to 22....approx about 12 per session...as it
really rarely goes into any high sky drawndowns,ideal for 1+1------and it can only be played in B&M casino...don't think you could
do it on line,neither would I suggest it.

[biagle]

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