123 Move (Live-Wheel)

[warrior]

Stop lying this is just bulls***

You can speculate it won't work. That's just wrong.


Facts are different from fiction.

Take a short look at the patterns reccuring all over (see livespins I've posted) OR Play it, you'll see
[/qWell you keep testing ,better yet go play for real let me know,you keep changing rules,bet for 3 spins ,now bet for 4spins ,ok viper you let me know ,when those 15 in row repeaters show up .

[warrior]

The patterns are only what you want to see.ILLUSION

[ignatus]

The patterns are only what you want to see.ILLUSION

This is not true

[ignatus]

same pattern

312: WwLWWWWWWWWWLWWWLWWLWWLWWL Winrate 20/26 = 77%

132: LLWWLWWLWWLWWWLWWWWWLWLLLW winrate 16/26= 62%

[Drazen]

On how many tested spins Ignatus you are proving this? I bet no more then few hundreds..

Well the thing is no matter what you do, no matter what pattern you create, no matter with which odds, no matter wheel or carpet based one thing will be for sure.

They will all be "exposed" to perfectly same possible deviations in random (for deviations in spheres of roulette of course), which is actualy biggest problem in roulette, not house edge as many think-you wouldnt give a thing for zeros striking if your max losing streak would be enough to overcome it with progression before touching table limits.

That is mathematical fact

Cheers

Drazen

[ignatus]

Drazen -You can speculate, but you haven't played it so you don't know.


This was one Live session playing with all the combinations of the same 123-pattern/move: 132,321,213,231,312,132

WWLLWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWLWWWWWWWLLWWWLWLWWWWWWWL

[Drazen]

Many others and me have tested it in the past and it doesn't work, but we have to play it for real money and then will work 

Ahh I knew I didn't understood enough around roulette... With this I do. Thanks.

Cheers

Drazen

[trebor]

So after all the "patterns" talk this is simply any sector that has slept for two spins is bet for three spins with a progression.


Trebor

[Roughy]

Apologies if I've got this all wrong but aren't you basically betting for the furthest back sector, or "dozen" as you call them. These are live spins I recorded while playing another system. The 2nd area slept for 25 spins! If I'm playing it how I think you are suggesting wouldn't that be 16 losses in a row?

23333131331133113313133111211232233221

23 trigger to bet for 1 - 3 hits. 331 trigger to bet for 2 - 3 hits. 1 trigger to bet for 2 - 3hits. 31 trigger to bet for 2 - 3 hits etc

T=trigger spin, L=loss

23T3331T3T1T3T31T13T31T13T31T3T1T3T31T112T1T12T32233221
      L        L  L  L  L    L    L    L    L    L  L  L  L    L      L  L    W
 
Again, sorry if I've misunderstood how you are playing but this seems to be what you are saying here:

same pattern

312: WwLWWWWWWWWWLWWWLWWLWWLWWL Winrate 20/26 = 77%

132: LLWWLWWLWWLWWWLWWWWWLWLLLW winrate 16/26= 62%

Roughy

[rouletteKEY]

Yes it was discussed on the other board...what about a sleeping dozen?  It happens all the time and that kills this...just like it kills every other method that bets on a dozen waking up that doesn't.

What about all the third spin wins that with the 1,1,1 progression that aren't really wins to the bankroll?

It takes 3 second spin wins to cover one loss...so that means you need a 75% win rate (not counting 3rd spin wins which are breakeven at best) if just looking at 2nd spin wins to break even.

It's tough to gauge effectiveness when you don't have an accurate running bankroll.  My super quick test had a 67% win rate but was in a significant net loss against bankroll.

Just some questions that need to be addressed either by rules, progression changes or major ovehaul to make it a long-term player....otherwise you're just hoping for some plain old fashioned luck.

[Roughy]

Actually, re-reading your posts I think I did have things wrong, wasn't betting for 3 spins (or 4 as you changed it to later). However, playing as I think you are playing, results are even worse. 17 losses for 3 spins and 19 losses for 4 spins

23T3331T31331T1331T1331T31331T112
      LLL    LLL       LLL     LLL    LLL       LLW


23T3331 31T3311 331T1331 31T3311 12T1123
      LLLL        LLLL          LLLL        LLLL       LLLW     

Roughy

[ignatus]

Wheel dozen numbers with all possible splits

Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2

Dozen Two: 1,16,20,30 Split 5/8, 10/11, 23/24, 33/36

Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31

[ignatus]

I think it's strange some people saying this won't work, yada yada yada... ??


These result speak for themselves. One session played just now at DublinBet Table 1:
(Betting on all possible "123-patterns": 132, 321, 213, 231, 312, 132)

LWWLWWWWLWLWWWWWLWLWWWWWLLWWWW Winrate 22/30 = 73%


So, please stop talking s**t about something you have no idea about! Something you never seen (the patterns reccuring) and something you have never played!

Thank you

[buffalowizard]

What you are failing to understand is that your 12 numbers are no different to any others. All you're doing is playing a dozen after two misses, hoping for a hit within 5 spins.
You don't think most of us here haven't tried this a thousand times before?
The expectations of this fall in line with any dozen bet and as such will fail miserably

[ignatus]

What you are failing to understand is that your 12 numbers are no different to any others. All you're doing is playing a dozen after two misses, hoping for a hit within 5 spins.
You don't think most of us here haven't tried this a thousand times before?
The expectations of this fall in line with any dozen bet and as such will fail miserably

Well, you have never played it. So, you cannot have a true opinion if it's working or not!