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123 Move (Live-Wheel)

Started by ignatus, Jan 24, 01:00 PM 2013

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soggett

Quote from: Orochi on Feb 03, 11:03 AM 2013
I'm working in the tracker, but is weekend and I'm going out with family. Maybe tomorrow i have time to finish the work.

I will try to make suitable to multiple strategy of playing.

Please post ahead:

progression types
wheel table layout bets,
stop-loss,
statistics,
graphs,
win goal,
amount of máx spins that tracker can handle.

Atm i handle to fit ignatus rules.
All 123 patterns are bet (123,321,231,213,312,132)
8 steps progression, (1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21)
Stoploss after 4 losses in a row then wait for a virtual win and continue progression.

Now use this kind of bet ??? (it take time to code this)

Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2
Dozen Two: 1,16,20,30 Split 5/8, 10/11, 23/24, 33/36
Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31

Or just bet straight up the dozen numbers? yes, instead of 2 chips on split 0/2 you place one chip on 0 and one chip on 2 - easier

if you can add +1 on a loss and -2 on a win for a progression type choice that would be awesome
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

ignatus

Quote from: Orochi on Feb 03, 11:03 AM 2013
I'm working in the tracker, but is weekend and I'm going out with family. Maybe tomorrow i have time to finish the work.

I will try to make suitable to multiple strategy of playing.

Please post ahead:

progression types
wheel table layout bets,
stop-loss,
statistics,
graphs,
win goal,
amount of máx spins that tracker can handle.

Atm i handle to fit ignatus rules.
All 123 patterns are bet (123,321,231,213,312,132)
8 steps progression, (1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 14, 21)
Stoploss after 4 losses in a row then wait for a virtual win and continue progression.

Now use this kind of bet ??? (it take time to code this)

Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2
Dozen Two: 1,16,20,30 Split 5/8, 10/11, 23/24, 33/36
Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31

Or just bet straight up the dozen numbers?

It would be great if one can play with +1 progression. And stoploss after 4 spins (Wait for virtual win after 4 spins) To play with this progression: after 4 spins STOP and wait for virtual win. Next trigger bet progression do not reset until 2 hits in sequence. (one hit within 4 spins after another hit)

Thanks  :)
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Spin4Fun

Tested 10172 spins of BV.

It was going  great first 6000 spins, nice build up to +5000 units.
After that dropped to 3000 and build up to + 4000, but frag down, in last 1000 spins.
However the result is +1200 units over a live casino...
Your chance to make more profit with Roulette!

warrior

Quote from: Spin4Fun on Feb 03, 05:22 PM 2013
Tested 10172 spins of BV.

It was going  great first 6000 spins, nice build up to +5000 units.
After that dropped to 3000 and build up to + 4000, but frag down, in last 1000 spins.
However the result is +1200 units over a live casino...
Can you explaine what you mean by live casino, i thought BV was rng.10172  spin on a live wheel well that would take a while .

Spin4Fun

Quote from: warrior on Feb 03, 05:43 PM 2013
Can you explaine what you mean by live casino, i thought BV was rng.10172  spin on a live wheel well that would take a while .
I was comparing the BV results to the test you can find a few pages back.
The live spin where captured in recent days.
Your chance to make more profit with Roulette!

rayhd63

Ignatus !!! or anybody else.....

I'm trying to figure out what the Progression vs. Wait is !!

You say progression 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  but then again you say stop after 4 losses !?!

So how would I play after 4 losses ?!?


Here is a killer session :

I played the Ignatus way and got -1908  and +48

The way I play and adapting to wait ater 4 losses I got -636 and +156

Would be nice if someone could check if I am right. (I hope not).....



Where is the Upload filed ?!? Can't find it !!! Or did I uploaded to much ??

OK so here are the numbers [reveal]31
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RFMAXX

really bad session.  :o

where are the numbers from? real table? rng? airball? random?

ignatus

Quote from: rayhd63 on Feb 03, 06:41 PM 2013
Ignatus !!! or anybody else.....

I'm trying to figure out what the Progression vs. Wait is !!

You say progression 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  but then again you say stop after 4 losses !?!

So how would I play after 4 losses ?!?


Here is a killer session :

I played the Ignatus way and got -1908  and +48

The way I play and adapting to wait ater 4 losses I got -636 and +156

Would be nice if someone could check if I am right. (I hope not).....



Where is the Upload filed ?!? Can't find it !!! Or did I uploaded to much ??

Are you sure you playing the way i do? Not the way your tracker is made, betting on each trigger only once? and playing on RNG? Both these, and in combination is a road to disaster-

First: Play on live-wheels only. This strategy was designed for livewheels (the 123-pattern)

Second: Use +1 progression and stoploss after 4 losses. You bet each trigger until hit. This progression has already been explained? For an example trigger 1,2 - you bet 3. Now after 4 losses Stop betting and wait for virtual win - That is, you Wait for doz 3 to hit before betting on a new trigger. And you start betting with 4 units (progression continue) 1,1,2,3...Furthermore. Now using +1 progression only reset (after 4 spins) if you get one hit, then another hit within four spins to be fully recovered. Most hits come within the first four spins, so you shouldn't worry.

That's the way I play anyway

Goodluck!  8)
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

ignatus

Half my wingoal for today reached.+1600 SEK

(my wingoal is 1000 SEK/day)

About the +1 progression: After 4 losses in a row, I use to start next session with 5 unit bet. (not more than 5 units) Sometimes I have to start with 5 unit bet several times to get fully recovered and profit



There is something wrong, I cannot attach the picture ??

link:s://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/549233_4876088493147_1466123561_n.jpg
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

ignatus

Had some bad luck and lost 1000 SEK. Close to the edge, I had 200 SEK left, now i played myself upto 500 SEK.

Well, my mistake; using heavy progression combined with a bad streak was disaster.

To prevent this NOW, I play only progression five steps 1,2,3,4,5 IF lose, I accept the loss and start over (wait for a virtual win & new trigger) reset progression.

Better to accept some small losses, than using a dangerous progression that can get out of control
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Smoczoor

QuoteBetter to accept some small losses, than using a dangerous progression that can get out of control

Very good decision dear Ignatus!
I wish you Good Luck!

TwoCatSam

An Editoral

Where many make mistakes is switching horses during the race.  They test for thousands of spins using X progression and Y method.  Then in real play, they switch to Y progression and X method.  Why test something over thousands of spins, find it works pretty well, and then change it in hopes of finding something better?

The play phase should be the continuation of the practice phase.  A new method should send the player back to the practice arena.

Hear me now and believe me later.

Sam


If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Smoczoor

...yes i really wish you Good Luck but i have to say it...

I think that this system sooner or later will collapse - i don't like heavy progression systems. I don't like also betting more than 4 numbers. I made thousand tests of thousands systems and the best FOR ME are systems based on flat betting and max bet 4 numbers.

I have few favourite systems and i master them. When one goes bad another goes very good. My task is found which one use and when switch them... Everyday I'm closer and my results are better. This systems are here on forum. They are based on hot numbers, repeaters, pockets. I think this is one of the right ways.

All i want to say you is that... i'm afraid progression systems. They are profitable long time but they needs only one bad run and all our dreams sank like Titanic...
There is something magical in roulette - when you are testing and developing system and when it looks good, you go happy to real table and everything goes bad and your system fails...
I developed few systems that passed 10k spins with profit but when i came to real table they fail after 10 session. It's strange but real. Now when i play flat bet it happens much less.

ignatus

Yes, you are right. This system has proven to fail for me I won't be playing it anymore. I'm sorry i've failed again. And im very sad.,,  :(

I lost 1900 SEK in a bad streak. Down to 200 SEK. Then won 500 SEK, finally lost it all. It went straight to hell. (total loss 360 SEK that was my fist deposit)

I was thinking to deposit more money, but I won't do the same mistake again.

I'm sorry.  :(



If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

TwoCatSam

Don't feel bad.  You have a good idea, you're just going at it wrong.

On this thread, too, I cannot attach a screen shot.

What?  What?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

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