New Wheel movement Strategy

[ignatus]

Been looking at wheel movements now again, this was my first result (live spins)

3120122111211212322323113012232120103223212131122112121212

As you can see the 1 & 2 movement is most common. That is the wheel divided into 6 sectors. Distance calculated from the sector last hit. So distance can be 0,1,2,3.

Problem (?) Playing this: it would be a 24 number bet. 6+6+6+6 numbers to cover the 1 & 2 move

Just some ideas. See if this is possible to play somehow

[ignatus]

This was meant to be in the notepad section.

I ask for it to be moved.

Thank you

[rouletteKEY]

Just out of curiosity...have you tried breaking the wheel down to 3 or 4 number sectors and refining the movement?  6 number sectors are pretty broad. 

Disclaimer:  I am an advocate of small number bets (3-4 numbers per spin)

If you can refine to 3-4 number sectors or even better...use Sam's software and get yourself an exact number of spaces from the previous hit.  Refine the bet.

Bet less numbers...your wins aren't diluted by losing bets.  If you insist on long progressions...they don't get completely out of control right away.

I know you like high strike rates Ignatus but try not to be tempted to just bet the table...excluding the 6 numbers in your most recently hit sector...I know only having a few 0's on your tracking log you're tempted.  Think about it...test it...just don't friggin do it 

[ignatus]

OK I've looked at the bet for this: It's quite possible to play because the 24 number bet has been reduced to 8-10 numbers bet using all possible splits, streets, corners, and doublesteets. Ofcourse no profit made from doublestreets and corners.

This is what I figure the bets for each sector. (must doublecheck this is correct)


1= Number 31 Splits 3/6, 13/14, 17/18, 22/23 Street 34/36 Doublestreet 7/12, 25/30    *

2= Numbers 15,26,28,30 Split 16/19 Street 10/12 Corners 0/3, 4/8, 20/24, 32/36          *

3= Numbers 0,29,34 Splits 6/9, 22/25, 24/27 Street 19/21, 31/33 Corner 1/5 Doublestreet 13/18  *

4= Number 31 Splits 3/6, 13/14, 17/18, 22/23 Street 34/36 Doublestreets 7/12, 25/30  *

5= Numbers 15,26,28,30 Split 16/19 Street 10/12 Corners 0/3, 4/8, 20/24, 32/36  *

6= Numbers 0,29,34 Splits 6/9, 22/25, 24/27 Streets 19/21, 31/33 Corner 1/5 Doublestreet 13/18 *

* All doublechecked and correct.

[buffalowizard]

I like this idea Ig

Although I do think you're shooting yourself in the foot with sticking to the wheel only. Going by the layout provides same results and can be bet equally and quickly in double streets

DS 1 - bet 5 6 2 3
DS 2 - bet 6 1 3 4
DS 3 - bet 1 2 4 5
DS 4 - bet 2 3 5 6
DS 5 - bet 3 4 6 1
DS 6 - bet 4 5 1 2

This gets you same win loss ratio as its still 24 numbers
Check it out

[ignatus]

I like this idea Ig

Although I do think you're shooting yourself in the foot with sticking to the wheel only. Going by the layout provides same results and can be bet equally and quickly in double streets

DS 1 - bet 5 6 2 3
DS 2 - bet 6 1 3 4
DS 3 - bet 1 2 4 5
DS 4 - bet 2 3 5 6
DS 5 - bet 3 4 6 1
DS 6 - bet 4 5 1 2

This gets you same win loss ratio as its still 24 numbers
Check it out

The sectors are correct, and this is exacly what I've done. (not using doublestreets, only sectors on the wheel) Now testing this... I'm not sure the doublestreet betting would give the same result? Perhaps yes... But that would be a 4 doublestreet bet. Anyway, we'll see how it goes from here! 

[buffalowizard]

Correct and 4 double streets = 24 number bet. I may test this myself in testing section

[ignatus]

This is my first test playing this (Live at DublinBet):

LWLWLLWWWLWWLLWWLLWWLWWLLLWLWWLWWWWWLLWLWWLLWWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWL

As you can see the losing streaks are not very long, this is because only way to lose if it repeats on the same sector or hits sector in a 3 step distance.


I'm not sure how to handle the doublestreets and corner bets, (this gives no profit) but it can be used as protection agains loss, perhaps.

Also ideas of progression playing this? The bet is between 8-10 units (no more) ... so perhaps a 10 unit progression can be used?

I've made a simple tracker for playing this. (Live Wheels only)

This is in the testing stage so far, ideas are welcome.

Cheers

[ignatus]

Another session at DublinBet:

WWLWLLWLWWLWWLWWLLWWLWWWWLWW

+200 from this short session,  using +1 (negative) progression 1,2,3,4....(1 unit bets) Seems to be working very well, especially using this +1 progression. It can be alittle slow playing when doublestreet and corners hit etc. No heavy losing streaks so far. 

[Spin4Fun]

First test, 
So how is this played?

[ignatus]

Just use the tracker? I play with negative +1 progression, and it has worked very well so far.

But I need help testing this; to find out if long losing streaks will happen, and how frequent etc. Now I have to use the tracker and do it all manually. So it takes some time. I'm soon done with more spins.

Cheers 

[rayhd63]

What is the average win ?
On a corner its X 8   on a Number its 35 so how do you bet these....
Looks complicated to bet , especialy on Dublin when they spin fast....

Ray

[ignatus]

What is the average win ?
On a corner its X 8   on a Number its 35 so how do you bet these....
Looks complicated to bet , especialy on Dublin when they spin fast....

Ray

I'm not done with the results, this is my test so far using the tracker (live spins)

WLLWLWWWWWWWWWWWLWLWWLLWWWLWWWLWLLWWLWWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWL


I haven't seen a longer losing streak than 3 losses in a row, and if this is true, its very good news. But don't be fooled by the W/L statistics because if it hit doublestreets, corners, streets etc don't give much profit (or any)  this is just to reduce losing. You only make real profit when single numbers or streets hit.  Use +1 negative progression playing this. I'm suprised myself it looks very good so far (but need more testing!) I do more spins, it's a lot of work doing it manually. Would be greatful if someone is interested in testing this! 

[TwoCatSam]

Let me make this perfectly clear:  It is not MY software except that it runs on my computer and I paid Normy for it.  Anyone who wants it can pay the man just like I did.  What he charges is up to him.

The idea is mine.  An idea I've had for years.  Will it ever bear fruit?  Who knows?  I'm no Jl and don't promise to break the bank.

I am going to test this to the point where I win #1000 and see if anyone's interested.

ignatus, you may delete this without my anger flaring.........if you want to.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Further............

I think somebody out there should think I might have a point!  If you study drop pockets and the next spin as much as I have, you will see what I see.  It ain't perfect, but it ain't all luck either.

Sam