Average Wheel Distance

[ignatus]

ignatus

I'm going to make a new movie today, if I can.  Perhaps you should take a break and watch it.  I bet 19 numbers.  Some say that's too many.  To each his own.

Sam

Alright! I will watch it. Well, that's not bad!  9 number on each side (18 numbers bet) would be pretty good, IF use it in this system average dist 8, bet would be dist  4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

Now I'm trying for less numbers if possible....I Had another idea: Trigger could be when distance is less than 5 or more then 14 ... That would eliminate some losses... Problem is I cannot make a tracker for that kind of bet. Struggling before with my statistical software STATA to calculate distance between streets etc.... STILL haven't figured it out. That's pretty bad. 

Cheers

[ignatus]

I don't know if more statistics is necessary? Distance is between 0-18. My 100 spins statistics showed average distance is 8 That's logical? 18/2=9

SO, now WE know average distance is 8. Using trigger bet after a very high or very low distance..... I think this is a very  good idea.

Now, only one problem remains: HOW to pick the distance for this kind of bet? What distances should be bet? How many numbers should be included...?

[ignatus]

Had another bright idea! I can make a chart that includes all numbers and distances. X=0-36 Y=0-36

So, no bot/tracker is necessary; That's chart can be used by everyone; people can play their own betting-style, triggers, numbers bet etc.....

[rouletteKEY]

  I am fighting off the sin of hubris.

Hey Sam...I own the franchise on the whole hubris thing...does that mean I get royalties?

[ignatus]

That's a lot of work doing this Universal distance chart for European Wheels.

It will take a few hours to make. BRB

[ignatus]

This is how it will look like (see pic) The universal distance chart.

You can bet any distance, choose your own numbers to bet. You can use any trigger and so on.

It will be very easy with this chart.

It's 36*36 =1296 distances, I've finished number 1. I have to do it all manually ... Distances are 0-18

[ophis]

....thing is, that average distance will not help you.

i did once spins analys looking for:
how many times number X have hit after number Y
(you can apply this to your distances)

from few charts in that post you can see that results look a bit different on different spins but combining them together the conclusion is:

after X number, any number will hit equally often.
translating:
after number X have appeared distance in which next number will appear will be equally distributed over large spins sample.

here is the link:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3697.0

[ignatus]

....thing is, that average distance will not help you.

after X number, any number will hit equally often.

translating:
after number X have appeared distance in which next number will appear will be equally distributed over large spins sample.

I cannot say this is true? I've done my own statistics (not many numbers) But enough to see that there is a difference: Small distances and large distance hit less.

So, This can be used ....Trigger: Wait for a small or large distance .....

How can it be equal? From 100 spins average distance was 8. How you mean that won't help? Of course it will be an advantage to bet the average distance. Waiting for the trigger......etc

[rouletteKEY]

What he is saying is that over time... with enough spins... all numbers will equal out and thus all distances will even out.

Methods are science projects.

You are either confirming his theory or your theory...or maybe you find something in-between.

Only testing will show you where there is validity.   That's why we test, test, test and then test some more before we play with real money (that is if we have an expectation in our head that we anticipate to win)

It's a science project.  Keep your control groups (wheels) and conditions (rotation direction) in separate groups and test.  It's the only way you will know where the truth lies.

[ignatus]

What he is saying is that over time... with enough spins... all numbers will equal out and thus all distances will even out.

This is just bullshit. Wish I could prove it with more statistics- IF average distance is 8 all spins cannot be the same. And as I've already said large and small distances hit LESS.

[rouletteKEY]

That's why you are testing...to prove to yourself what the real answer is and what you can do with this newfound knowledge to give yourself an edge... whatever your testing proves.

There are no quick and/or easy answers here.

People have been working on these same problems for more years than any of us have been on this earth.  It's all a process...welcome to the game

[ophis]

I cannot say this is true? I've done my own statistics (not many numbers)

Thats exactly why this method will fail... again.

You have statistics from lets say one week.... that does not mean next week your average will not change.


when im telling your that based on statistics from few years (10million spins), 12 numbers can sleep for 89 spins then you are telling me that you never saw 12 numbers sleep for more that 9 spins and you will be rich.
one week later: BUST.

so now im telling you again and last time. based on statistics from LONG period, your observation of average distances is VOID.

...ignorance is bliss.

[ignatus]

that's exactly why this method will fail... again.

You have statistics from lets say one week.... that does not mean next week your average will not change.


when I'm telling your that based on statistics from few years (10million spins), 12 numbers can sleep for 89 spins then you are telling me that you never saw 12 numbers sleep for more that 9 spins and you will be rich.
one week later: BUST.

so now I'm telling you again and last time. based on statistics from LONG period, your observation of average distances is VOID.

...ignorance is bliss.

This is where your theory fails. If you see this statistics (my 100 spins first post) you see exactly what I mean: 0 and 18 are the lest hit distances. 9 and 10 the most hit distances. (average dist)

[Orochi]

Ignatus i just start working in pocket distances tracker, give me a few days to finish. It will give i full stats.

[ophis]

...your theory fails

Sorry mate. Its not a theory.