Average Wheel Distance

[ignatus]

Here is my fist test using this (live spins):

CW 7
CW 6
CCW 1
CW 16
CCW 10
CW 12
CW 11
CW 3
CCW 6
CW 10
CCW 1
CW 13
CW 9
CW 4
CW 6

Can you see the pattern? I think I can.

What's great with this, you can place a single bet in a specific area to catch any trend/pattern!


Cheers 

[rouletteKEY]

I think the pattern is... you jumping the gun on exclaiming success before ANY testing has been done.

You need alot of spins to make any intelligent assumptions. 

You put alot of time into roulette...take the time you need to do it right...going off on tangents with little or no real point of reference gets you into a lot of trouble and ridicule...and ends in every method spiraling out of control with little arguments of experienced players telling you that todays method won't work or making suggestions to make it playable and then your predicatble retort of telling us we don't know what we are talking about because you tested 20 spins and you know better based on those 20 spins.  Take your time and test it out...15 spins does not a method make.

If answers are there to be gotten...with enough testing and energy put in the right direction you will find a method...please put in the time necessary

[TwoCatSam]

KEY 

Well said.

I am still a bit offput by that tearing-the-cat-in-half bit.

Sam

[Normy2000]

You need a lot of spins to make any intelligent assumptions. 

Could not say better 

[ignatus]

I think the pattern is... you jumping the gun on exclaiming success before ANY testing has been done.

You need a lot of spins to make any intelligent assumptions. 

You put a lot of time into roulette...take the time you need to do it right...going off on tangents with little or no real point of reference gets you into a lot of trouble and ridicule...and ends in every method spiraling out of control with little arguments of experienced players telling you that todays method won't work or making suggestions to make it playable and then your predicatble retort of telling us we don't know what we are talking about because you tested 20 spins and you know better based on those 20 spins.  Take your time and test it out...15 spins does not a method make.

If answers are there to be gotten...with enough testing and energy put in the right direction you will find a method...please put in the time necessary

Again, you deny the facts. Sure I could do more spins, but patterns are easy to see, movements repeat (obviously). Why being so negative? This is a great tool study wheel movements AND it makes it possible to decrease the bets even more. You should be happy. You can place a 3 numbers bet etc follow specific repetitions/pattern

[rolf-harris]

Here is my fist test using this (live spins):

CW 7
CW 6
CCW 1
CW 16
CCW 10
CW 12
CW 11
CW 3
CCW 6
CW 10
CCW 1
CW 13
CW 9
CW 4
CW 6

Can you see the pattern? I think I can

Sorry, but I don't see any pattern.

[ignatus]

Really? Well, who is "unintelligent" here? Not me. Saw these patterns first from TwoCatSam's videos. Movements/distances repeats. If you cannot see this you are either blind or just? unintelligent, yes.

This was a livesession from DublinBet played just now:


CCW 17
CCW 12
CW 6
CW 7
CCW 13
CW 14
CCW 13
CW 10
CCW 18
CW 7
CCW 17
CW 6
CCW 11
CCW 1
CCW 18
CW 13
CCW 6
CW 6
CCW 6
CCW 9
CW 6
CCW 16
CCW 5
CCW 18
CCW 7
CCW 10
CCW 14
CW 17
CCW 9
CCW 16
0
CW 8
CW 3
CW 5
CCW 6
CCW 6
CW 5
CCW 11
CCW 5
CW 9
CCW 14
CCW 9
CCW 18
CCW 16

[DuffMiver]

Really? Well, who is "unintelligent" here? Not me. Saw these patterns first from TwoCatSam's videos. Movements/distances repeats. If you cannot see this you are either blind or just? unintelligent, yes.

This was a livesession from DublinBet played just now:


CCW 17
CCW 12
CW 6
CW 7
CCW 13
CW 14
CCW 13
CW 10
CCW 18
CW 7
CCW 17
CW 6
CCW 11
CCW 1
CCW 18
CW 13
CCW 6
CW 6
CCW 6
CCW 9
CW 6
CCW 16
CCW 5
CCW 18
CCW 7
CCW 10
CCW 14
CW 17
CCW 9
CCW 16
0
CW 8
CW 3
CW 5
CCW 6
CCW 6
CW 5
CCW 11
CCW 5
CW 9
CCW 14
CCW 9
CCW 18
CCW 16

So how to choose a sector to bet with these random distances? Maybe you can explain?

[ddarko]

stop calling people "unintelligent" just because he cannot see something that you claim you can !!!

Rolf asked a perfectly reasonable question, now we all know you will be on to your next Holy Grail thread next week so pls answer the man while this topic still holds any interest to you.

[ignatus]

Let's say you place a neighbours bet for each distance/direction to repeat (5 numbers bet) for either CW or CCW:

                 ccw 5 neighbours.  cw 5 neighbours.
CCW 17   
CCW 12         W
CW 6             L                             
CW 7             L                             W
CCW 13         W                           L
CW 14           L                             L
CCW 13         W                           L
CW 10            L                            W
CCW 18         W                            L
CW 7              L                            W
CCW 17         W                            L
CW 6             L                             W
CCW 11         L                             L
CCW 1           L                             L
CCW 18         L                             L
CW 13           L                             L
CCW 6           L                             L
CW 6             L                             L
CCW 6          W                            L
CCW 9          W                            L
CW 6            L                             W
CCW 16        L                             L
CCW 5          L                             L 
CCW 18        W                            L
CCW 7          L                             L
CCW 10        L                              L
CCW 14        W                            L
CW 17          L                             L
CCW 9          W                            L
CCW 16        L                             L
0                   L                             L 
CW 8            L                             L
CW 3            L                             L
CW 5            L                             W
CCW 6         L                             L
CCW 6         W                            L
CW 5            L                             W
CCW 11       W                            L
CCW 5         L                              L
CW 9           L                              W
CCW 14       L                              L
CCW 9         W                            L                 
CCW 18       L                              L
CCW 16       W                             L

                 14/44=32%             8/42=19%


5/37= 13.5% "Normal" winrate for 5 numbers

[ignatus]

stop calling people "unintelligent" just because he cannot see something that you claim you can !!!

Rolf asked a perfectly reasonable question, now we all know you will be on to your next Holy Grail thread next week so please answer the man while this topic still holds any interest to you.

OK sorry then. It was rouletteKEY who lived in denial of this method. (it was he who called me unintelligent) :/

"we all know you will be on to your next Holy Grail thread next week" ? I'm still learning and trying ... Stop talking BS.

I don't need to do 1 million spins to see a pattern.

I think it open many new doors of study, this can be a new way of getting an advantage playing on livewheels (repeating directions and distances)

[ddarko]

"we all know you will be on to your next Holy Grail thread next week" ? I'm still learning and trying ... Stop talking BS.

Thank you for saying sorry 

Let's see if your still on this thread in a weeks time before you call it BS. Any good you may do will soon be cancelled out with this attitude of yours believe me.

& no I agree you don't need a million spins, but I think you do need more than you have.

& by the way it's not a "new way" of playing......

[maestro]

ignatus you do not have to insult people they are tryiiiiiing to help you..here is software i used to fcuk about see if is any help..was in download section in vls forum made by person called mike...

[maestro]

oppps i did it 2 times..

[ignatus]

ignatus you do not have to insult people they are tryiiiiiing to help you..here is software i used to fcuk about see if is any help..was in download section in VLS forum made by person called mike...

Thanks, that's great tool.

For me this is a new way of playing. And I don't understand the negative comments? It's not "helping" much