Average Wheel Distance

[ignatus]

But this isnt normal. its been lucky. A line of 6 doesn't allways pay 16% does it? it too will get lucky and pay 33%.

Its also impossible to test over 1000's of numbers because you don't know which is cw and which is ccw on speilbank..

Until you have 33% consistantly over a few thousand spins, you can't read anything into a lucky streak.

Betting this way can't magically make 16% into 33%....only a lucky streak can.

I don't know why you post here. You dismiss what people ask and suggest. People who know much more than you.

I don't dismiss what people say?;

"You need a lot of spins to make any intelligent assumptions." No, I don't. Patterns/repetitions are obvious even from a short session

"Sorry, but I don't see any pattern." Look again?

"we all know you will be on to your next Holy Grail thread next week"

"By now it should be obvious that ignatus is a blithering_idiot"

"that's why I stopped, I take a look here and there to get a laugh"

"...CW, CCW and all that stuff, but they will all tell you that you can't bet both at the same time"

"Betting this way can't magically make 16% into 33%....only a lucky streak can. I don't know why you post here."



I don't need to argue. The tracker is finished. You need to test it yourself,  see the patterns/repetitions

[TwoCatSam]

Gentlemen

I can bet FOR red black to come on one spin.  I know I can't win both, but I can bet FOR both events to occur.  Same as betting number 1 and 36.

When playing the G.U.T. and a crossing appears, I bet it.  It loses and a second crossing appears.  I bet them both knowing full well they both can't win. 

Same thing.

I can't wait to have a look at his tracker.  After my next video, he may improve it!!  I know this much:  After a few months of using the SuperTracker, I could pay Normy to make some real improvements.  And I may.  Or I may just use my current methods.  Things evolve; ignatus is evolving.

TwoCat

[soggett]

yes TCS, he can bet both
but then he is betting 12 numbers and then a 33% hit rate is nothing special
and that is what he gets

he will get it, eventually, as he (like you said) evolves

[soggett]

"You need a lot of spins to make any intelligent assumptions." No, I don't. Patterns/repetitions are obvious even from a short session

yes you do
a thousand spins means nothing, and you haven't even done that
do you read the forum? how many people said they have systems that pass 100 000 spins and still lose, even a million spins
with every system you say you don't need to do more spins and then what happens, your system fails
do you get the pattern here?

[ignatus]

Gentlemen

I can bet FOR red black to come on one spin.  I know I can't win both, but I can bet FOR both events to occur.  Same as betting number 1 and 36.

When playing the G.U.T. and a crossing appears, I bet it.  It loses and a second crossing appears.  I bet them both knowing full well they both can't win. 

Same thing.

I can't wait to have a look at his tracker.  After my next video, he may improve it!!  I know this much:  After a few months of using the SuperTracker, I could pay Normy to make some real improvements.  And I may.  Or I may just use my current methods.  Things evolve; ignatus is evolving.

TwoCat

Great Sam, good someone can understand/use this tracker. You don't have to wait Sam? It's already finished? (I said that once already?) 

[ignatus]

your system fails

do you get the pattern here?

Stop talkin sh*t soggett? Try using the tracker you'll see.

[rouletteKEY]

I am still a bit offput by that tearing-the-cat-in-half bit.

Sam

Sam...it's non-cat person humor...wasn't meant to be offensive.  Just a non-cat guy trying to solve what I saw as an obvious issue. 

[rouletteKEY]

Again, you deny the facts. Sure I could do more spins, but patterns are easy to see, movements repeat (obviously). Why being so negative? This is a great tool study wheel movements AND it makes it possible to decrease the bets even more. You should be happy. You can place a 3 numbers bet etc follow specific repetitions/pattern

Ummmmm.... I'm in denial?

You should do more spins...pretty sure we can get a concensus from real honest to God players here on this topic...you should test more and make better tests

Negative?  I have tried to help you time and time and time and time and time and time again...like many others on this forum, and other forums.  Actual players who have actually set foot in a casino more than 3 times in our lives...just sayin'

I am happy that the bet is being decreased to a smaller amount of numbers.  But without proper testing how do you determine what those few numbers will be? 

If your intention is to revolutionize the world of roulette and develop a working method...you need to direct your energies towards a method and be relentless in your pursuit of that particular objective until you have either succeeded or until you can cross it off as being definitevely not worth pursuing.

Patterns...using your theory of basing a method on 15 spins worth of pattern recognition.  Lets say I have 15 reds and they are all in the second and third dozen.  Does that mean based on that exhaustive amount of research I should always bet the red numbers in the 2nd and 3rd dozens?  That may work for you...not so much for me.

[rouletteKEY]

OK sorry then. It was rouletteKEY who lived in denial of this method. (it was he who called me unintelligent) :/

"we all know you will be on to your next Holy Grail thread next week" ? I'm still learning and trying ... Stop talking BS.

I don't need to do 1 million spins to see a pattern.

I think it open many new doors of study, this can be a new way of getting an advantage playing on livewheels (repeating directions and distances)

Find the quote where I called you unintelligent

We all know it will be far before next week when you will be onto your next Holy Grail

No...you don't need a million spins to see a pattern but you sure do need more than 15-20 spins to see a pattern you can do anything with

I think it is a worthy path to pursue...I encouraged you by even suggesting other things like CW vs CCW as data that you needed to pay attention to

[ignatus]

Find the quote where I called you unintelligent

We all know it will be far before next week when you will be onto your next Holy Grail

No...you don't need a million spins to see a pattern but you sure do need more than 15-20 spins to see a pattern you can do anything with

I think it is a worthy path to pursue...I encouraged you by even suggesting other things like CW vs CCW as data that you needed to pay attention to

Yes, i've been working on this "wheel movement"-strategies afew weeks now.

This is just a tool for study the wheel movements. It's not a strategy. You can play/bet as you wish.

[rouletteKEY]

Find the quote where I called you unintelligent

and the answer is?

[ignatus]

and the answer is?

Let's drop all bad arguments? You know I always value your ideas and opinions rouletteKEY.  I don't like is everybody claim this won't work etc when they haven't even used the tracker and seen the patterns/repetitions....if you can't find it in 20 spins you won't find it in 1 million spins. So, I found a pattern in 20 spins. That should be a good sign. But not everybody agree.

Time will tell.

I'm always? careful when trying something new, (trying to be atleast!)  and yes, i've made the mistake many times when I had a short term result. True...

[TwoCatSam]

Sam...it's non-cat person humor...wasn't meant to be offensive.  Just a non-cat guy trying to solve what I saw as an obvious issue.

KEY

Then you wouldn't literally tear a cat in half.  Thank God.

They do have a cloth weasel or something that they tug all over the house.  The smart dog gets on the carpet and the other gets on the hardwood floor.  Who do you think wins??

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

if you can't find it in 20 spins you won't find it in 1 million spins.

ignatus

Imagine the tiniest drop of water.  Imagine the largest ocean.  That is what 20 spins are to what a roulette wheel produces. 

Statements like this do not further your credibility on these forums.  Sorry to be blunt, but I think a few will back me up on this.

Your friend....

Sam

[soggett]

Stop talkin sh*t soggett? Try using the tracker you'll see.

and there is the reason you get less and less responce
we all try to help you and as soon as you don't like what we have to say you start being rude
I am done with you, if you won't listen then I can't help you
roulettekey has tried to help you from the start and you still won't listen to what he has to say
sad
anyway, enjoy your current holy grail, I'll be looking forward to your next one