Double the fun

[GLC]

This may not be that different, but because I'm worried about my buddy Sam getting burried by a very long sleeping dozen, I've come up with a compromise bet scheme.


Each line I will call a set of W/L's.


1.  W   Ends set.  If at a new profit, reset to 1 unit else stay at same bet size and start a new set.


2. LW   Ends Set.  If at a new profit, reset to 1 unit else stay at same bet size and start a new set.


3. LLW   Ends set.  Neutral set.  No bet size change.  Start a new set.


4.  LLLW  Ends set.  -1  Very small loss, so start a new set at same bet size.


5.  LLLLW  Ends set.  -2  Getting into losses, so play next set at +1 unit added to bet size.


6.  LLLLL...W  The 1st W ends set.  Number of L's = 5 or more.  This will keep bet sizes from escalating when we hit our sleeping dozen.  As soon as we have a Win it ends this set and we increase our bet size by +1 unit for next set.




These 6 sets should cover every possibility.  Sets 1 & 2 are our winning sets.


If you find yourself betting a large bet size and you have a few wins in a row, you might consider decreasing your bet size but not all the way back to 1 rather than staying at the same level just in case you're about to go into another losing series.




Remember, Risk vs Reward.  Decision time.




Hope this helps,


GLC

[atlantis]

Hi GLC,

Another great idea and well thought out! 
The first 2 strings are the same as and already covered in MODE 3 (The cautious way); the third string is new but an optional acceptable safety measure worthy of consideration and inclusion; the  4th and 5th strings are also different but again focus on protection and caution. And I agree the sixth stringset targets and handles the 'long sleepers'.
I have not tried it yet, but looks robust (and possibly as boring too) to me.
George, well done and I think we should call your special refinements  MODE 4 - (The ULTIMATE cautious way)

Thanks,
Atlantis.

[GLC]

MODE 4 it is.

[TwoCatSam]

By George, I like it George!!

Thanks for thinkin' about ol' TwoCat

Sam

[atlantis]

Hi George, TCS

First off I played a mode 2(standard) session and reached +18 after 27 bets.
Here is my results from today's session playing with George's new MODE 4 idea....
This was a poor session results wise... and I think only the cautious modes handle it best. Certainly under mode 1(agressive) and mode 2(standard) the string stake requirements for this session would have risen quite high... The mode 3(cautious) result for this session ends at +11 but GLC's mode 4(ultra cautious) ends higher and actually seems safer and I feel coped better...

LLLLLLLLW          -6   UP  TO 2U
LLLLLW               -12  UP TO 3U
LW                      -9   STAY AT 3U
LLW                    -9  STAY AT 3U
LLW                    -9  STAY AT 3U
LW                      -6  STAY AT 3U
LLLLW                 -12 UP TO 4U
W                        -4  STAY AT 4U
W                        +4  RESET TO 1U
LW                      +5 STAY AT 1U
LW                      +6 STAY AT 1U
LLLLLLW              +2  UP TO 2U
LLLLW                 -2  UP TO 3U
LLW                    -2 STAY AT 3U
LLLW                  -5 STAY AT 3U
W                       +1 STAY AT 3U
LLLLW                 -5 UP TO 4U
LLLLW                 -13 UP TO 5U
W                       -3 STAY AT 5U
LW                     +2 STAY AT 5U
W                      +12 RESET TO 1U
LLLLW                +10 UP TO 2U
LLW                   +10  STAY AT 2U
LLW                   +10 STAY AT 2U
LW                     +12 RESET TO 1U
LLLLLW             +9 UP TO 2U
W                       +13  [STOPPED HERE]                   

+13 profit.

Probably would have exited earlier..  Very pleased with the way it handled the L's.
I'm thinking now with George that MODE 4 might be the best all-round option to stick with. 
Boring, slow it may be - but hey I won and it triumphed good in the end. I certainly recommend it to TCS as the way to go.

A.

[Le_Chiffre]

Made 50 units in 25 minutes on demo RNG using GLCs latest method above....but I was betting on the last dozen to hit (so going for repeaters)

[TwoCatSam]

I'm reading it A.

Thanks!

S.

[atlantis]

Made 50 units in 25 minutes on demo RNG using GLCs latest method above....but I was betting on the last dozen to hit (so going for repeaters)

Hi Le_Chiffre,
Nice session and good profit achieved for 25 mins 
Have not tried myself on rng yet - definately speeds things up though.
A.

[atlantis]

I'm reading it A.

Thanks!

S.

It's possible George's Mode 4 will prove to be "THE" way forward to play the single doz/col - coupled with a reasonable selection method, that is. If so then we can discard the previous created modes which have led to this point and simply regard them as having been superceded by a more valid, stronger and viable progression set within which there is still room for some flexibility regarding the stake increases and decreases (as GLC has pointed out)
In that case and if true then we can elect to go with it according it the recognition of being a logical and sensible, successful and optimal progression to use when playing the 2/1 shots.

Regards,
A.   

[Le_Chiffre]

Hi Le_Chiffre,
Nice session and good profit achieved for 25 mins 
Have not tried myself on rng yet - definately speeds things up though'
A.

Atlantis,

Yes I was quite impressed with it. Will try it for real on a live wheel next week although my thoughts are maybe this system will work well on RNG alone.

[vladir]

I like the last progression from glc. its a very cautious way to play... one needs to be extremly  consistently unlucky to lose. but it sure is boring ...

I would change one thing. On the last loosing string, instead of just increasing 1 unit, I would increase 1 unit for each 3 conseccutive losses. e.g LLLLLLLLLW , I would increase 3 units.

[GLC]

I like the last progression from glc. its a very cautious way to play... one needs to be extremly  consistently unlucky to lose. but it sure is boring ...

I would change one thing. On the last losing string, instead of just increasing 1 unit, I would increase 1 unit for each 3 conseccutive losses. e.g LLLLLLLLLW , I would increase 3 units.

Vladir,  That's not a bad idea.  I like the option of increasing more than 1 depending on how long the L's were.  We all know that if  we have a long loss streak and only increase by +1, it can be safer, but also take longer to recover.  Like Victor says, a conscious bet progression gives the experienced player more options.


I don't know if 1 unit for every 3 losses is my cup of tea.  Maybe 1 unit for every 5 or 6 losses would be okay.  But hey, each one can choose his own progression.

[atlantis]

Yes I was quite impressed with it. Will try it for real on a live wheel next week although my thoughts are maybe this system will work well on RNG alone.

Hi Le_Chiffre,

I played FTL doz and came out +13 over 46 spins. I'm happy with that  (highest bet 3; worst string LLLLW)

Over the same numbers I monitored individually betting each dozen on each spin and I got following results from doing that:

DOZ1 = -8 (next bet would be 2u; high of +3 so far)
DOZ2 = -16 (next bet would be 3u; high of +6 so far)
DOZ3 = +25 (next bet would be 1u; high of +25 so far)

Dozen 3 was the hot dozen to be on!

There was a sleeping string of 11 L's in dozen 1 before a win; In dozen 2 there were 2 consecutive strings like this:
LLLLLW   and LLLLLLLLLLW (they were worst encountered) whilst in dozen 3 the worst string was LLLLW.

Interestingly playing all four ways at the same time produced an overall profit of +14.

Given time I would have expected a reversal of fortune for doz 1 and 2 and the stakes were not too high at close of play.

So this is still going very well. 

A.

[TwoCatSam]

Total loss of arse........

OK, they sent me $100 free.  I got up to 299 and they bombarded me with offers.

Suddenly I could not buy a win.  My 299 went to .5.

I think this is a great idea, but not at Prism casino.

Sam

[Shogun]

I tried this with mode 4 this morning. Think i played it correctly.
I played on BVNZ real money.
Here are the Dozens as the came, if someone might have a look. i Got -39 units.
1
2
1
3
2
2
1
1
2
1
3
3
3
1
1
2
3
2
3
3
1
2
2
2
2
3
1
1
3
3
1
3
1
2
3
2
1
3
3
1
1
3
2
3
1
2
3
3
2
3
3
2
1
1
3
2
1
3
3
1
1
2
3
1
1
2
2
3
2
1
2
1
3
1
Oh and i played for a repeat of the last dozen.

Cheers.