I like to hear feedback.

[TwoCatSam]

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I was wrong and I got myself screwed by making people think I was out to scam.

Who screwed you and what did they screw you out of?

[amk]

Its all relative Turner.


I wonder how many spins Einstein was trying to pass : )



Imagine if he said that roulette could be won? (with this I mean within the casino imposed limits)


What would this mean?

[amk]

I think he was referring to himself TwoCat.

[amk]

Turner, concerning the Arc. Sorry to get off topic Azim.


Is it possible for us to build a device which produces electricity? yes


If it could produce this energy for free then I would call it a Arc : )

[iggiv]

by Holy Grail they usually mean something that wins all the time. Just going up and up and up. whenever and how much ever u play. Something that does not exist. Something  as hard to find as real Holy Grail.

[Azim]

Who screwed you and what did they screw you out of?

Sam , I meant I screwed myself up.  I am not blaming anyone of you for what you have done.  I totally take responsibility in you all coming out and making it sound like I was scamming you. I would have done the same thing. Hence the intention of letting you use it for 7 days. In order to protect my investment I had to use some sort of mechanism. My choice was wrong. I screwed myself.

However,  I have no intentions of scamming anyone out. Sam, if I had known you have a better tracker than the one I sent you. I wouldn't have bothered.

Anyways. I think I have a lot to work on for the next few months. Which includes re-write of my application from scratch in order to run it on the web, I have to consider other technical issues that go with that.  I have to make sure I have stable internet connection, i have to make sure my machine has enough strength to allow as many users who want to use it and play online to be able to do it at ease.

Once again, I am sorry to have brought all this on you all.

Originally when I tried this application. It made me some money. My mind just said it can't be true. It's too good to be true. When I won consistently for about 2-3 weeks. I said this is what I got blessed with.  I was just returning the gift back to you all. (Yes I was charging for it but I didn't think the price was going to make me rich overnight.  Correct me if I am wrong, with the winnings I have shown you all, from $100.00 to $1600.00 and you do that consistently, If I gave it to you for 7 days, it would have been a piece of cake for you all to give me $19.99 a month. I am sure you all are saying I was stupid, I wasn't stupid, I wasn't been greedy. Anyways it's water under the bridge now.

I personally have bought bots, not for the bots to make me money but see the concept of it all.

Here is a wisdom for you all,  I know you all are good people. My father has always told me there is 1 person in life, who will never scam you and will keep his promise,  that person is a gambler.  When a gambler promises something  he/she will make sure they stand by it.

Remember, you can break a stick(you can lose with one system), however bundle the sticks up and you can't break them(play 4-5 7-8 9-10 systems together they will became unbeatable), with a little common sense you can't go wrong. The roulette wheel is playing all systems you playing individually against you. You have to counter attack it bundling your systems into one and find a nice turning point for your level of play

Once again, sorry to all for any inconvenience I might have caused.

[Skakus]

 

[speed]

Here is a wisdom for you all,  I know you all are good people. My father has always told me there is 1 person in life, who will never scam you and will keep his promise,  that person is a gambler.  When a gambler promises something  he/she will make sure they stand by it.

hahahahaha especially when gambler promises that he never ever gamble again   

[Steve]

Stick Figure Spotlight 2 - Demacia vs Noxus

[TwoCatSam]

Well, I said I was done with this, but here I go....

Azim

Let me say this carefully:  I accept your offer!  Send me the tracker for seven days and I will pay you if it works.  If it works like you said, I will buy the bot.  What part of that is confusing??

Now, I did NOT say I had a better tracker; I said I had a better CLICKER.  There is a big difference!

You have not screwed yourself.  All you need to do is follow through on what you said in your first post of this thread.

Sam

[DuffMiver]

Azim

You have not screwed yourself.  All you need to do is follow through on what you said in your first post of this thread.

Sam

ALTOGETHER NOW.....
"AND SO SAY ALL OF US"!! 

[Still]

What part of that is confusing??

I will try to translate.  Azim was just looking for feedback, not an actual acceptance of the offer.  IF he offered it, would you accept it?  But it was framed as an offer, so it was confusing.  Then, he changed the offer because he was not satisfied with the key system built into Excel that keeps code secret.  He was not able to set up the key system, or, changed his mind and didn't want to use the key system.  He could use the key system, but does not want to.  Instead, programming ability is being focused on an online application that might make his code more secure and might make the goal of establishing an income more possible because of a better ability to control who uses the software and for how long.  So it's old model of distribution versus new model of distribution.  The feedback showed some interest so he will work on the new model of distribution because it's seems more promising. 

If anyone would like to discuss what a new model of distribution might look like, just start a thread somewhere and i will join it. 

Still 

[TwoCatSam]

"You will ask what's in it for me...

7 days of free trial for you. What will this do?  This will make you at least $30.00 minimum per day at a $0.10 unit level.  I am sure we can all afford at least $60.00 bankroll.

After 7 days,  I am looking at a monthly fee of $19.99 to use the application. What will this do? Give you the ability to play and make some money.

After 30 days. You have a choice of monthly rate of $19.99 or outright buy it with an option of a bot. I will give you the same application that you have been running.

The outright price will be $199.99. This will be the same system you have used for the last month Let me know the casino you want the bot for.

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That is a direct offer, not a trial balloon.  I accepted the offer.  The man has nothing to lose! 

Azim

When you are ready, I am.  I will disclose NOTHING you say I can't disclose--except for one thing:  If it works, I report; if it tanks, I report.

I'm in this game for fun, not to make a ton of money.  Even if I could sell it on Ebay, I would not.  There are people who could vouch for me on this aspect.

Good luck!

Sam

[Azim]

"You will ask what's in it for me...

7 days of free trial for you. What will this do?  This will make you at least $30.00 minimum per day at a $0.10 unit level.  I am sure we can all afford at least $60.00 bankroll.

After 7 days,  I am looking at a monthly fee of $19.99 to use the application. What will this do? Give you the ability to play and make some money.

After 30 days. You have a choice of monthly rate of $19.99 or outright buy it with an option of a bot. I will give you the same application that you have been running.

The outright price will be $199.99. This will be the same system you have used for the last month Let me know the casino you want the bot for.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sam

Sam, you are right. I was offering, and wanted to see if people thought it was a steep price. Allowing the 7 day trial was one way of letting people know, I wasn't out to scam.

I have programmed the key system before. It has always worked. (NOT CALLING ANY ONE LIARS OR ANYTHING). Keeping that in mind and the response I have had. It would be wise to put it on the web.

My reasons:
1). I can control the application usage easily.
2). If there is a bug, I am sure you all will find something here and there(NOT SAYING IT WILL BE INTENTIONAL). It will be very difficult to send it to everyone. I would have to keep track of something I can avoid.
3). If I find or any of you find a system you want incorporated, I don't have to worry as to who has what version.

From Technical side right now:
I have to deal with a lot of issues.  My current internet connection, is never available between 2:00 am and 5:00 am local time.
What is local time? I am in Canada  with Eastern Time zone.Which means depending on where you are, you will not be able to use it.
I also have to make sure the server hosting the application is good enough to run 24 hrs a day. (Initially it will be hard. Once revenue comes in it, will be easy to upgrade and re invest the money).I am not asking anyone of you for money. I am and GOD forbid for that day to come, for me to beg money from anyone.
The internet bandwidth is something I will have to look into.
As I set this up, other things will come up.

I once again am not teasing you all with this.  My intentions were to do what I said I wanted to do.  Had the key part of the application worked we all would be singing a different tune as opposed to this tune.

I am once again apologizing but I now know what the response has been and what I am looking at.  ( From my side, you all have to realize, I have tested the key and have used it before. I am not sure what I have missed or what has happened).

I am not going to be gun shy at all. I am trying my best to resolve this.



 

[TwoCatSam]

OK, Bro...........

I'm good with all that!

Sam