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Algorithm win or break even hybrid, even money bets.

Started by ego, Apr 12, 01:13 PM 2013

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ego

Quote from: starkygold on Apr 13, 04:31 PM 2013
Ego,
Thank You!
Will try to code this in excel.

Thank you.
Is not the HG and this is how i think about it ...

All i know is that the game is cruel.
Some pros say you bet three times and if you don't catch a trend/domination, then you are out.
You quit, end of session.
All that with out using any kind of progression.

That is cruel.
And now i at least succeed hit more Entering points with + 1 then Exit points -3 based upon that methodology.
That with out trending for domination using regression, that is the point and should compensate against the Exit points.
That is a start.

Is just my way of thinking or my methodology.
I use Entering points, Exit points, Break even points.
I use only three bets to jump onboard any sequense.
Main target is to use regression and Up & Pull
Trending for domination.

Main idea is to twist a even money bet into the same probability area as when one dozen sleep for 5 10 20 30 times in a row.
That is the only way to compensate for the negative expectation when trending for domination.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

amk


ego: "I have never during my years at forum boards see any public even money bet being so effective."



That says a lot : )


ps


thanks for the great post GLC!

unre4lbg

Ok so i got everything clear, one last thing..

on the double dozen bet if it comes 1&2 and 3&4 we bet the 1rst and the second dozen, but HOW do you bet when it comes 1&2 and 4&5 ? how to u make your bet on the dozens..

soggett

Quote from: unre4lbg on Apr 14, 08:32 AM 2013
Ok so i got everything clear, one last thing..

on the double dozen bet if it comes 1&2 and 3&4 we bet the 1rst and the second dozen, but HOW do you bet when it comes 1&2 and 4&5 ? how to u make your bet on the dozens..

he always bets the lines (double streets) so 4 lines is 24 numbers which is like a two dozen bet
the question is does he bet 2 units per line when that happens?

ego nice very job, I like the thread a lot  :thumbsup:

EDIT:
did a quick test
100 spins
I get 44 wins and 23 losses
total +44 units using 1,2 ( 1 unit when betting 3 lines and then 2 units when betting 4 lines )
or +46 units using just 1 unit (flatbetting)
very very nice
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

starkygold

Didn't have time to test it. How is it going?

vladir

Very interesting topic... I would like to analyze the W/L sequence of some thousands of spins applying this. Has anyone tested this with at least 1000 spins, or more?
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

probasah

Hey ego,

Made a tracker for your method.
Can you please tell me what is the win/loss with units:

WIN: +3units
Loss1: -3 units
Loss2:-4 units

?

So that i can create a graph with the Balance

Regards,
Alex

probasah

Win Lose ratio for this method is good.
I think its better to focus ALL our energy in one topic at a time. I see on the 1st page 20 methods, and no one wrote in here for 3 days. This is not a bad method, on the contrary......................!

Ego, waiting for your reply so i can finish the tracker, i will post it here for free (as always) for all.

Regards,

Alex

vladir

Quote from: probasah on Apr 17, 04:08 PM 2013
Hey ego,

Made a tracker for your method.
Can you please tell me what is the win/loss with units:

WIN: +3units
Loss1: -3 units
Loss2:-4 units

?

So that i can create a graph with the Balance

Regards,
Alex


While waiting for ego's response, I think it's something like this: you bet a total of 3 units on the first bet. If Win on 1st bet, is +3; Loss on first bet is -3 .
Then you proceed to the second bet, if youhave lost.  Win on 2nd bet is +2; Loss on 2nd bet is -4 .


All this assuming flat betting ( 1 unit per line).


If you folow sogget sugestion, and bet 2 unit in 2nd bet instead of 1, you get:


win 1st bet +3; Loss 1st bet -3
Win 2nd bet ; +4; Loss 2nd bet -8





"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

Chris555p

Hi everyone

I agree with Probasah's post above where he says ".....It is far better to focus ALL our energy in one topic at a time. I see on the 1st page 20 methods, and no one wrote in here for 3 days. This is not a bad method, on the contrary......................!"

A lot of time potentially very good methods are being mentionned but there is no proper follow through and after few days the topic is dead......


Cheers

Chris

leknightroulette

Incredibly i was trying a very similar system that i saw in a Spanish forum 2 days ago but beginning after 2 street, then 3, then 4 if i loss

Thanks Ego I think it could be good

probasah

Hello all,

Unfortunately it seems to fail on the long run.

You can add your spins on the green column or it randomly generates numbers(default excel)

Here it is, took me about 4 hours to build.

Enjoy,
Alex

probasah

Anyone else want to comment on the tracker/ method? Maybe we can improve it.

Regards,
Alex

km92

I cant seem to understand this. Can anyone please explain how to bet with these number?

[reveal]
20
21
30
23
23
27
1
30
34
13
14
33
23
12
25
9
26
11
35
3
[/reveal]

starkygold

Quote from: probasah on Apr 17, 05:16 PM 2013
Hello all,

Unfortunately it seems to fail on the long run.

You can add your spins on the green column or it randomly generates numbers(default excel)

Here it is, took me about 4 hours to build.

Enjoy,
Alex

It fails in the long run but how many L did you have in a row? Is there a way to hide the L if no number is entered so the graph will show real results when you play it live....

Thanks

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