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Started by ego, Apr 12, 01:13 PM 2013

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ego


I would not say that you are - s t u p i d - as we all know you past topics are - s i l l y - regarding my opinion.
This is the answer to your question how you would play Red & Black ...

Advance Even Money Bets TRENDING FOR DOMINATION
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12592.0

But i don't expect that you will understand that you have to clustering and twist things into 1 in 3 to succeed playing even money bets, when you are going to get strike ratio above 50% ... with out using progression.

This is the secret, one dozen ofthen fall into sleep and the two remaining dozen hit 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 times in a row.
Now if you can convert that trend into a even money bet, then the domination will compensate for the negative expectation. Also give you a higher strike ration above 50% ...

That is what this algorithm do.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ignatus

Yes, I'm very "s t u p id" and "s i l l y", true... But explain this:


R
R
R
B
B
B State one, two series chop.  <----------------There is ABSOLUTE no reason why the outcome would be "black" here.
R
B
B
B State three, series and singles alternating. <-------There is ABSOLUTE no reason why the outcome would be "black" here.
R
B
R
B State two, serie of singles. <----------------There is ABSOLUTE no reason why the outcome would be "black" here.



Well....?
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Turner

Quote from: ignatus on Apr 13, 04:16 AM 2013
Yes, I'm very "s t u p id" and "s i l l y", true... But explain this:


R
R
R
B
B
B State one, two series chop.  <----------------There is ABSOLUTE no reason why the outcome would be "black" here.
R
B
B
B State three, series and singles alternating. <-------There is ABSOLUTE no reason why the outcome would be "black" here.
R
B
R
B State two, serie of singles. <----------------There is ABSOLUTE no reason why the outcome would be "black" here.



Well....?
Ignatus....i think you dont know enough about e/c betting  to argue about it. I would put myself in that catagory.
Why would you want to see egos idea fail?. The only reason we kick you around in your posts is because we want to see you win and are trying to help you think in winning ways.
You shouldnt be wishing an idea to fail mate.

ego


Then roulette does not exist, so why to you spend time here.
If we don't use and apply probability then there is nothing left.

All existing topics at this forum board is based upon gamblers fallacy and each new trail is a new trail.
We all know that. The wheel has no memory.

It does not matter how you play all system lose.
Now that is what you are telling me and that is the truth for the past 300 years.

That is s i l l y and s t u p i d ...
I base my selection upon math and probability and strict MM rules and never claim i have the HG but i know my way is better then others public methods.

Ignatus, you are a wasting every ones times ...
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Chrisbis

I pretty sure ego means to show you/us, how a statistical edge can be gained, if instead of using the direct 2 state EC bet placement of Red/Black, U instead turn that into an EC with Lines.

Betting of three  Lines covers half the table  (excludes Zero obviously), and the ratio of Reds to Blacks within that remaining table area is roughly the same, but the advantage comes in the landing of the spins, esp if the table/wheel has got one sleeping Dozen.
In other words, this is a table/felt examination.

The narrow path afforded the resulting spin, can now only come from 4 'syconus*' Lines, and your betting on three of them (75% coverage, of the two remaining & hitting dozens)

The effective theoretical hit rate can be increased by a good margin.

Its not directly per-say, about Red V Black.
(that's how I see it)

[reveal]* means 'juicy' by the way![/reveal]
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

Turner

Quote from: ignatus on Apr 13, 03:47 AM 2013
Playing with ECs is a very hopeless effort, but I really like to test this one (and see it fail)
I was refering to this comment

ego

Quote from: Chrisbis on Apr 13, 04:38 AM 2013
I pretty sure ego means to show you/us, how a statistical edge can be gained, if instead of using the direct 2 state EC bet placement of Red/Black, U instead turn that into an EC with Lines.

Betting of three  Lines covers half the table  (excludes Zero obviously), and the ratio of Reds to Blacks within that remaining table area is roughly the same, but the advantage comes in the landing of the spins, esp if the table/wheel has got one sleeping Dozen.
In other words, this is a table/felt examination.

The narrow path afforded the resulting spin, can now only come from 4 'syconus' Lines, and your betting on three of them (75% coverage, of the two remaining & hitting dozens)

The effective theoretical hit rate can be increased by a good margin.

Its not directly per-say, about Red V Black.
(that's how I see it)


Now it comes some good arguments.
Lets look at this when one line always sleep.


That means when we aim to play the most recent and present lines to repeat with our first bet, then we have 3 against 5.
That is towards our advantage as we have 18 numbers against 12 numbers (not 18/18 as the last line sleep)
Now if we lose our even money bets using three current lines then we have a new line that show and we add it to our three lines and make a 24 numbers bet against 6 numbers (not 12 as the last line sleep)

Rap that around your brain.

One cycle is six as there only exist six lines.

6
1
1
3
5
5
3
4
2 Trails 9 - Line 2 was at sleep so we only had to deal with 3 to 4 lines out of 5 using our algorithm.

4
5
2
6
2
2
4
1
5
5
4
3 Trails 12 - Line 3 was at sleep so we only had to deal with 3 to 4 lines out of 5 using our algorithm.

2
4
4
4
4
1
1
2
5
4
6
6
5
2
3 Trails 15 - Line 3 was at sleep so we only had to deal with 3 to 4 lines out of 5 using our algorithm.

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ignatus

Quote from: Turner on Apr 13, 04:34 AM 2013
Ignatus....i think you don't know enough about e/c betting  to argue about it. I would put myself in that catagory.
Why would you want to see egos idea fail?. The only reason we kick you around in your posts is because we want to see you win and are trying to help you think in winning ways.
You shouldnt be wishing an idea to fail mate.

ok, sorry for being critical... Just that I lost my faith in roulette (in general).... :/

Sure, that may be a clever bet.......I have tried playing ECs.....following trend, stoploss, wait for virtual win, different progressions etc. Now, only because I failed with everything I've tried so far doesn't mean this will not work,...

But can we be honest? SOME people are making money playing roulette, (that's a great mystery to me) I've played roulette now for almost 2-3 years (everyday) it seems....... a bad habit? and I've lost alot of money.
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Chrisbis

Quote from: ignatus
ok, sorry for being critical... Just that I lost my faith in roulette (in general).... :/
I'm so please U apologized......well done!..........
........
(that's a great mystery to me) me too sometimes!! I've played roulette now for almost 2-3 years (everyday) it seems....... a bad habit? and I've lost a lot of money.
Time to stop losing then eh!...and begin very small wins, and hit a +10% day target

Maybe we both have just been looking in the wrong direction!
I know, when I put my mind to it, I can win at this game we so love to hate! (or is it hate to love!!)
Soooooo..........lets learn ALL the aspects to it, including the statistical ones.............it might just give us the edge we are both (all) looking for !
cheers
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

ego

Quote from: ego on Apr 13, 04:52 AM 2013

Now it comes some good arguments.
Lets look at this when one line always sleep.


That means when we aim to play the most recent and present lines to repeat with our first bet, then we have 3 against 5.
That is towards our advantage as we have 18 numbers against 12 numbers (not 18/18 as the last line sleep)
Now if we lose our even money bets using three current lines then we have a new line that show and we add it to our three lines and make a 24 numbers bet against 6 numbers (not 12 as the last line sleep)

Rap that around your brain.

One cycle is six as there only exist six lines.

6
1
1
3
5
5
3
4
2 Trails 9 - Line 2 was at sleep so we only had to deal with 3 to 4 lines out of 5 using our algorithm.

4
5
2
6
2
2
4
1
5
5
4
3 Trails 12 - Line 3 was at sleep so we only had to deal with 3 to 4 lines out of 5 using our algorithm.

2
4
4
4
4
1
1
2
5
4
6
6
5
2
3 Trails 15 - Line 3 was at sleep so we only had to deal with 3 to 4 lines out of 5 using our algorithm.

Listen to this, when one ask:
How do you play even money bets?
You could answer:
I use conditional propability.

That sleeping line sleep 99% of the times beyound the cycle and give us does odds in our favour.
Is almost like base you game upon conditional probabiltiy.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


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Ignatus can you post some spins from your arsenal.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ignatus

Quote from: ego on Apr 13, 05:19 AM 2013
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Ignatus can you post some spins from your arsenal.

Go ahead, it's your thread, I don't want to disturb you with my failures! hehe  ;D
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

RFMAXX

hi ego.

could you please give me a hint?

28
8
2  trigger for lines 8, 1, 2

15     L  + add line 3
0       L
29     what to do here? track 3 new lines or playing previous four lines until break even?

thanks.

ego

Quote from: RFMAXX on Apr 13, 07:29 AM 2013
hi ego.

could you please give me a hint?

28
8
2  trigger for lines 8, 1, 2

15     L  + add line 3
0       L
29     what to do here? track 3 new lines or playing previous four lines until break even?

thanks.

There has to be a missunderstanding, i use six lines, so i don't know why you wrote the line 8 as it does not exist, this is not streets.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

unre4lbg

hey can someone explain with a video example... I really cant understand it..  :(

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