Algorithm win or break even hybrid, even money bets.

[RFMAXX]

There has to be a missunderstanding, i use six lines, so i don't know why you wrote the line 8 as it does not exist, this is not streets.

typing error.

its number 5.

[TwoCatSam]

************Then you first follow the three lines as an even money bet.
If you win you continue and if you lose you add that new line and bet dozen position.
Now if you win and break even with second attempt, then you restart with the three even money lines.**********


I hear it this way:  Wait for three unique lines to come.  Say 3 6 and 1.  Bet one unit on each for an EC bet at 3units.  If you lose, add the line that beat you to the herd and now you have a double-dozen bet which you must win twice to get even.

The red IF is the fallen soldier.  The blue second is the beautiful nurse who--hopefully--saves his life.  ACK There's always infection!!

Sam

[unre4lbg]

Thanks for the explanation sam! Now just to ask

Double dozen bet means, lets say for example we have this:

1
2
3 (3 unique lines) (Put bet on 1,2,3 = 3 units)
4 (We loose, we add 4 to the herd) (Noe we put a bet on 1&2 and a bet on 3&4 = 2 units)

Is that it?

[TwoCatSam]

"Now if we lose our even money bets using three current lines then we have a new line that show and we add it to our three lines and make a 24 numbers bet against 6 numbers (not 12 as the last line sleep)" The parenthesis is pure malarkey.  No one can guarantee a line will sleep.

un

That is what the man wrote.  "We add it"........

Ego may in fact be a genius--I don't know.  I do know he writes with the pen of obfuscation and bloviation so when people like myself and ignatus don't understand, we can be labeled silly and silly and ignorant.  Putting it this way:  s.t.u.p.i.d does not change the meaning.

Some of you folks got it totally backward.  When a system is posted it is our job to TRY to disprove it; tear it all to H.  Show the weaknesses and pitfalls. 

OR

You could just take my word for my winning system and go bet the farm on it.

Which sounds more reasonable?

Let me re-cap:

Lines 1 2 3 come in that order.  We bet a dollar on each.  Line 4 comes.  Now we have 1-2, the first dozen and 3-4, the second dozen.  We bet for two dozens to hit two times in a row breaking us even.  Gulp....5 and 6 are in the wings.

What do you do if you lose both bets on the dozens.  Keep trying and going further in the hole or cut your loss and start over.

I'd love to make a movie if I knew the rules. 

About now it becomes a Hitchc*** movie as the "Tweakbirds" begin circling!

AW, that was TwoCatHumor.  Get over it.

Sam

[Chrisbis]

TwoCatHumour at least doesn't equal Cat-astrophe blockbuster!
"Action!!"

[Ralph]

Sam1

Ego may be honest, may be no doubt. But that's the way luck goes, luck or we can call it variance. We do not have control, but can in a good strike think it.

We win only when we bet the number comes. We do not have a clue why, and if we win it is not the effort we have done, that is that we do for extend the fun. We may win!!

[ego]

TCS thanks for the help explain it, at least i try.

Now this is the point i agree that we disagree with TCS statements.

First out is that 90% to 99% of the times, one line sleep.
That means that only 5 lines will show in the closest future, at where we will bet, so we don't face all 6 lines.
This mean that when i following does three lines that already had a show, then i play against 2 remaining lines, not 3 lines.
That is in the current short term state in the beginning of each sequence.
So i claim that i have 18 vs 12 with my first bet.
Now when or if that bet lose then i still have same situation and have 24/6.

It that was not true, then how come i get so long winning strikes using my algorithm with high strike ratio above 50%.
TCS i don't want to brag, but i find it pretty clever ...

1
3
5 135 Even Money Position

5 W
3 W
4 L 
2 L 42 Sleeping Dozen Position
4
5
2

6 Sleeping Line Positon

---

2
4
1 Even Money Position

5 L
5 W
4 W
3 L 35 Sleeping Dozen Position
2 W
4 W
4 W
4 W
4 W
1 W
1 W
2 W
5 L
4 W

6 Sleeping Line Position

Pst ... the sleeping events has to clump togeheter to lose twice ...

[unre4lbg]

Ok so one more thing to ask to make it clear to me:

Example

1
2
3 (Trigger)
1 (Win, now we start over. So do we wait for new 3 unique lines to trigger again or we continue with the same, as in the example - 1.2.3 ?)

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 (L - now we add 4 to the new double street bet)
4 (W - now do we start over again, waiting for another trigger, or we continue with the even bets on 1,2 and 3 ? )

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 L
5 L (now do we continue betting 1,2,3,4 on a double bet until we break even or do we end session and start over with another fresh trigger? )

Sorry for the retarded post, just hope to make it clear for me and other members who have trouble understanting the rules completely, after all if we want to test this system we have to now the rules right, right?

[ego]

Ok so one more thing to ask to make it clear to me:

Example

1
2
3 (Trigger)
1 W (Win, now we start over. So do we wait for new 3 unique lines to trigger again or we continue with the same, as in the example - 1.2.3 ?)

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 (L - now we add 4 to the new double street bet)
4 (W - now do we start over again, waiting for another trigger, or we continue with the even bets on 1,2 and 3 ? )

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 L
5 L (now do we continue betting 1,2,3,4 on a double bet until we break even or do we end session and start over with another fresh trigger? )

Sorry for the retarded post, just hope to make it clear for me and other members who have trouble understanting the rules completely, after all if we want to test this system we have to now the rules right, right?

Example

1
2
3 (Trigger)
1 (Continue until a loss then play all four lines, if a win then restart following 123, repeat the formula until two loses)

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 (L - now we add 4 to the new double street bet)
4 (W - now you continue to bet 123 lines, if a low you add a line again and start over until two loses.)

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 L
5 L (That is the end of attack with two loses or that you had 5 show each )

- - -

4
5
3 (Trigger)

4 W
1 L ( Add new line and make 24 number bet)
4 W
5 W (Restart even money bet 453)
2 L (Add new line and make 24 number bet )
2 W (Restart even money bet 453)
1 L ( Add new line and make 24 number bet )
3 W (Restart even money bet 453 )
4 W
3 W
3 W
5 W
4 W
5 W
1 L
1 W
5 W
5 W
3 W
3 W
4 W
3 W
6 L
6 W
3 W
3 W
3 W
3 W
4 W
1 L
4 W
3 W
2 L
2 W
1 L
5 W
5 W
6 L
5 W
1 L
3 W
4 W
4 W
4 W
5 W
3 W
1 L
1 W
4 W
4 W
3 W
3 W
4 W
2 L
2 W
1 L
1 W
4 W
5 W
3 W
2 L
6 L

[GLC]

I've been reading this topic with great interest.  This is a new concept and we should try to understand it completely so we can take advantage of it, if possible, or incorporate it in other yet to be discovered ways.

I have to throw my hat in on Ego's side.  His results, if not just lucky series that support his bet selection method, are impressive to say the least.

All the minor questions about doing this here or that there are relatively insignificant to understanding the over-riding concept of trying to take advantage of a sleeping line.  We all know that just betting on the last 5 lines to show does that, but because of the pay-off rip, we also know that's a losing bet in the long run.  Using a graduated attack with Ego's parameters looks, initially anyway, like a potential winning flat bet system.

I see this as a step beyond some of the systems I have worked on where I use an even chance to recover a single dozen loss.  Or a double dozen bet to recover an even chance loss.  Using the lines, or even the streets, gives us a more focused attack than just using 2 predefined dozens or a pre-defined even chance like Red or Black.

It may prove to be a long term loser like all the others, but for now, to me, it's the most interesting post of late.  Including my own posts.

Thanks for posting Ego.

Ego, I do agree that you were a little harsh with Ignatus.   You have to be patient with us as we try to wrap our heads around a new concept before we can jump on board.  New ideas are few and far between.  We almost feel like there aren't any more.  This shows that there are and there may even be more than have been put forward in 300 years.  Who knows?

@ Ignatus   My condolences on your loss these past couple of years.  Thank you for being bold enough to share that.  It's a red flag to all of us to be prudent in risking money on this elusive game.

Good Luck to all,

GLC

[ego]

Thanks for you kind reply GLC ...

Now i just want to mention that you can use any kind of trigger as long you have three shows.
Feel free to tweak it or make your own strategy ...

Cheers

[Turner]

Example

1
2
3 (Trigger)
1 (Continue until a loss then play all four lines, if a win then restart following 123, repeat the formula until two loses)

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 (L - now we add 4 to the new double street bet)
4 (W - now you continue to bet 123 lines, if a low you add a line again and start over until two loses.)

Another scenario

1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 L
5 L (That is the end of attack with two loses or that you had 5 show each )

- - -

4
5
3 (Trigger)

4 W
1 L ( Add new line and make 24 number bet)
4 W
5 W (Restart even money bet 453)
2 L (Add new line and make 24 number bet )
2 W (Restart even money bet 453)
1 L ( Add new line and make 24 number bet )
3 W (Restart even money bet 453 )

Ego

So keep the same trigger until it loses

in this case
1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 L
5 L (That is the end of attack with two loses or that you had 5 show each )

would we play 345 or start a fresh from the 2 losses

AND.....

1
3
2 <<< play 1,2,3
0(zero) <<<< we are 3 u down.

How do we proceed

Thanks

Turner

[ego]

It does not have to come in that order using triggers.
You can see 4556 and jump onboard or 236 - test for your self.

You can also do this reverse where you bet against one dozen to hit 4 times in a row as trigger and then play for change to continue

6
1
1 L
3 W 2345
5 W 245
5 L 234
3 W 234
4 W 245
2 W 345
4 W 235
5 W 234
2 W 345
6 L 2345
2 W 345
2 L 2345
4 W 235
1 L 2345
5 W 234
5 L 2345
4 W 235
3 W 245
2 W 345
4 W 235
4 L 2345
4 W 235
4 L 2345
1 L

The main idea or the core is to take advantage out of sleeper and hit trending for domination.
But playing against does also work.

[ego]

Ego

So keep the same trigger until it loses

in this case
1
2
3 (Trigger)
4 L
5 L (That is the end of attack with two loses or that you had 5 show each )

would we play 345 or start a fresh from the 2 losses

AND.....

1
3
2 <<< play 1,2,3
0(zero) <<<< we are 3 u down.

How do we proceed

Thanks

Turner

If you don't jump onbard with two bets for a trend then you quit/restart a new attack.
If zero strike you just repeat your previos bet as nothing has happend.

[starkygold]

Ego,
Thank You!
Will try to code this in excel.