DNA OF ROULETTE SYSTEM: Your opinions, please

[Droganson]

Hey, Malcop. I just tested 3 sessions using 100 units and a  progression of 1,2,4 going up on a lose and going down 1 on 2 wins. I lost 2 sessions outright my whole 100 unit br and won 1 session where I gain 20% of my br for a total loss of 180 units. It was looking really good but didn't fare well for me in the end. Thank you for posting!

[malcop]

Hey, Malcop. I just tested 3 sessions using 100 units and a  progression of 1,2,4 going up on a lose and going down 1 on 2 wins. I lost 2 sessions outright my whole 100 unit br and won 1 session where I gain 20% of my br for a total loss of 180 units. It was looking really good but didn't fare well for me in the end. Thank you for posting!

First of all, do not use a progression this is and should be a flat bet system.

And the most you should have ever lost in one session is 15 units!  

All my testing has been just flat betting no progressions, there is no need for a progression with this system.

Last night I played a session before going to bed and flat bet +20 this morning I played a session when I woke up +14 flat bet.

You will have losing sessions just like any system but as I said you will never lose more than 15 units max!

And I will state again  I have won far more sessions playing this way than I have lost.

One more thing people should test this idea out first and only if they are happy with the results start to place real money bets, and even then play with the smallest stakes possible and only increase your stakes as you confidence grows with the method idea.

After all it's your money look after it!

[Droganson]

Ahhhhh, I see. Makes sense. Well sadly I am a progression guy so I'd use progressions even on flat betting systems. (laugh) Luckily I have enough in my casino to last me a long time but I will keep that in mind, malcop! Thanks for the information and I hope your winning streak continues!

[malcop]

Ahhhhh, I see. Makes sense. Well sadly I am a progression guy so I'd use progressions even on flat betting systems. (laugh) Luckily I have enough in my casino to last me a long time but I will keep that in mind, malcop! Thanks for the information and I hope your winning streak continues!

No problem I'm just trying to get the best out of the system and using the GD as a trigger seems to be working, just only betting when the system is winning and trying to ride that winning trend until it stops.

[malcop]

Hi All,

Just a quick update I just played a session that I exited at +10, but the interesting thing was this, almost every one of the system bets lost and the software told me to exit with a -15 loss, but I had not placed any bets because I did not have a valid trigger to bet, waiting for a valid trigger kept me out of the system betting, after the software had told me to exit I had three points where I had a valid trigger, on the third trigger I decided to leave the session once the GD descended by two figures, as per my trigger rules, I could have gone on and wait for another trigger but decided to just exit with +10 that was good enough for me.

It is very important that before you place a bet you check the GD to make sure you are still in the trigger range.

But this session is the sort of thing I have seen time and time again just following the system bets resulted in a losing session, but waiting for the GD trigger produced a winning session, even if you do have to wait a bit for the triggers to come along!

Thanks

Malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

I am still having very good results using the GD as a trigger for DNA, I have been playing around with a few variations of play.

What I am trying to do right now is find the best configuration to use, once I am happy with it I will post, also I have asked Andy to modify his spreadsheet for me, to play with the GD trigger, you do not need all the different modes if you use the GD as a trigger, well that is what I have found out so far.

Still waiting for him to come back to me, so hopefully it wont be long.

But the main thing is GD is the key even in Dons manual at the back he as much as hinted that the GD is a good indicator to use when playing DNA.

If you monitored GD as you used the DNA software you could probably figure out how you could use GD to your benefit.

What my main aim is I am trying to simplify DNA so that it could be played affectively at a B&M casino, at the moment with all the different modes and calculations it would be very difficult to play at a B&M casino.

Oh I forgot it has to be profitable also, will keep you all in the loop as to my progress, so far progress has all been positive.

Thanks

malcop

[esoito]

@malcop
I guess your success thus far provides its own motivation for continuing testing.

And you've certainly worked hard to get this far.

And I for one am VERY grateful to you for all your time, efforts and energy, and your willingness to keep us posted.

THANK YOU

[And, of course, our generous benefactor and his skillful programmer are ALWAYS included in that thanks!]

[malcop]

@malcop
I guess your success thus far provides its own motivation for continuing testing.

And you've certainly worked hard to get this far.

And I for one am VERY grateful to you for all your time, efforts and energy, and your willingness to keep us posted.

THANK YOU

[And, of course, our generous benefactor and his skillful programmer are ALWAYS included in that thanks!]

Hi esoito,

I'm still testing my idea it has changed a little bit since my last post, but so far it is looking good.

Looking at what Don has said in the emails I have posted on his behalf and what he says in his manual he has always said that GD could be a good indicator to use as when to bet or not, so all I am doing is explore how the GD figures could be exploited instead of just betting because the system indicates you should place a bet.

Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Latest update from Don

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Dear Philip,

Sorry for the delay in responding as I was out of Colombo for four days (to teach school children) without any access to internet. I am so glad to hear that people like you all are taking a keen research interest and taking the system forward. Also, nothing gives me more pleasure than someone saying that the system is working and they are making good profits. It is a clear proof that my endeavour to outperform this evil game is yielding results. I will look into this matter and see whether I could incorporate your logic into the software program, after testing your idea. Also, I am glad that I introduced the GD, which I intuitively felt to be useful.

Further, I did not tell you that Dulan and I are developing an alternative and a highly effective system using the GD and three strategiles P1AM2A, M1AP2A and INV/P1AM2A. This is completely different to what we are doing now and it is meant for more or less continuous wagering. The visually observed test results prove that the new system appears to be more effective as all three strategies yield three waves independently and when one or two fail the other gets automatically active. Dulan would have done the testing program by now in my absence in Colombo. I will be working full time on this for the next three days and hopefully I will relaunch the book as an additional alternative strategy to DNA System under the topic "Ruin the City Of Las Vegas" by the weekend, if the observations come right.

Please post this to the fourm on behalf of me to keep them informed of the progress of the new line of research.

Best Regards

Don

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Thanks

malcop

[marivo]

I like reading Don's messages because they are so detailed and comprehensive 

[malcop]

Hi All,

Another update for you, the first email is one I sent to Don this morning with an update on how I have been testing DNA.

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Hi Don,

This is the way I am testing at the moment.

It is only using Basic Strategy.

You triggers are like this.

if the last three GD figures are going up like 4, 6, 10 or -7 , -5, --1 ect, start betting Basic Strategy.
Keep betting Basic Strategy until one of two things happen
1) the last three GD figures have gone down like 7, 5, 2 or 2, -2, -3 ec. then stop and wait for a new trigger
2) you lose all four bets on the table, then stop and wait for a new trigger.

Also it dose not matter if the GD is lower than -10

You should also use the same CIH and target as the original system, and the same CS rule ect.

I do not use your EV calculations at all in this method of play.

Thanks

Philip

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This is his reply

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Dear Philip,

I applied the new strategy to 30 original data tables and guess what. 22/30 sessions came right and the yield is +158. I think I can displace the existing system with such a simple software. I already spoke to Dulan and we decided to work on it tomorrow night. The mechanism is so simple that you can do it without a computer in the real casino. By the weekend, we should be able to upload the new system also for your testing. I have named it as System RCLV. It appears to be a killer.

Best Regards

Don

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Sure Don only tested my idea over a small sample data set, but his results bears out the sort of results I have been getting this past week.

It is too early to say if we have found a long term winner with my trigger idea, most of us have seen this all before, so all we can do is tread carefully and see where this takes us.

So all I can say for now is watch this space!

Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Here is the latest update to Dons system, note this is not this is a diffrent varation of DNA, with a new manual, they can both be found on Don's website.

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Dear Philip,

It is 4.30 in the morning and we finally uploaded the new system. Please inform the forum and request the members to test it and post comments. The new system is much simpler than the earlier system. The system can be used as a good guideline for taking manual decisions based on the Game Direction Indicator trends.

Best Regards

Don

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Thanks

malcop

[esoito]

The link:

link:://:.neworiginalthinking.com/dna-of-roulette.html

[malcop]

Hi All,

Latest Update

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Dear Philip,

Dulan has corrected the minor bug yesterday. He has coded a + sign on one of the controls as a -. Now the system is fully operational. Please ask the forum members to test it. My results show that there is a failure rate of 10/30 games but the loss per session is less than the System DNAR and it is less than 10.

The beauty of this system is that it can be used even in the real casino without a computer, as the calaculation is much simpler and once the wagering strategy is selected, there are no calculations involved.

BesIt Regards

Don

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It would be nice to know if anyone has been testing this new version of DNA and how they are doing.  Remember there is a failure rate of 10/30 games so don't expect to win every sesssion, we are talking winning about two thirds of your sessions, if this strike rate can be acheived is that enough to produce long term profits, only if people test this can we find out for sure.

Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Another update

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Dear Philip,

After a rigorous testing, we found a requirement to switch the Strategy 3 to Strategy 1, after incurring a -4 loss on NSO, if the Strategy 1 has got qualified to be wagered for simultaneously. The reason being that the Strategy 3 is a short but an exponential wave (trend). May be I will be able to improve the wagering commencement condition for Strategy 3 as well during the course of the day. Such further optimization was not possible without a computer program to test.

We will be incorporating all new observations into the logic tonight. Until such time, please request the forum members either to refrain from using strategy 3 (if it is switched on) or manually switch on to Strategy 1, upon meeting the conditions mentioned above.

Best Regards

Don

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Thanks

malcop