DNA OF ROULETTE SYSTEM: Your opinions, please

[marivo]

BV no zero.


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[marivo]

5 plays, ups and downs, finlay about 3 or 4 units lose.

[malcop]

Hi All,

Latest update from Don
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Dear Philip,

I think I need to educate the users.

The first point is that the players appear to be testing the system in quick succession, without following the guidelines given in the book. If a session loss is made, I have asked them to refrain from wagering for a half a day. If one observes the Game Direction Idicator in the very first column, sometimes it remains on the negative side for an entire six hours. If you play consecutive sessions on a day like that, the chances of losing a few successive sessions is most inevitable. So, the players must discipline themselves to confine to maximum two sessions per day (except for RNG) with a reasonable interval in between them. On the contrary, if the Game Direction Indicator is rising and positive at the point of exit from a session, a player may go for a followup session.

The second point is that there is a relative frequency of failure of 1/3 sessions and I have introduced all possible controls to minimize the lossess in such sessions. So, just by testing the system for about 5 sessions in quick succession, one cannot assess the effectiveness of the system. In order for a player to comment on the effectiveness of the system, at least 30 sessions obtained in discrete intervals must be observed.

The thrid point is AC5 must be strictly followed to gain an ptimized and a reasonable return.

So, I wish to make a humble request from the players to test the system as elaborated above and then comment on its effectiveness.

Best Regards

Don
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My only comment is I do not know how you could apply the half day rule to Don's half day suggestion.

Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

I asked Don what was going on with his project and how he felt it was going this is his response.

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Dear Philip,

I am testing this at my end and I do not see any problem with it. In fact, there are no adverse remarks being posted to the forum by the users. Practicing of AC5  in the manner elaborated in the book is yielding very good results and it suppliments the entire risk associated with other strategies. Also, I checked each advance strategy (AC1 - AC4) and I do not have a problem with any of them. This is why I removed the option with just AC1 and AC2 only. I tested 30 live-spin samples and I have a net gain of +150 yielded by the system. So, it is upto the users to select only what they believe in as options available to them. Strategies AC2 and AC5 are highly effective. The users shall understand one fact that this is meant to play roulette as a past time activity and not a full time job. The 30 sessions I tested were done as one in the morning and one in the evening.

Thanks for all the support you extended in introducing the system to the world and defending me in that endeavour.

Please upload this comment.

Best Regards

Don

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Please feel free all of you to comment

Thanks

malcop

[chrisbis]

Hi Philip.

So in conclusion.

Is the DNA software automatic now in its bet selection?
And more to the point - is it FULLY automatic?

When the software give Us a bet selection, do we now have to read where that bet has come from (AC1- AC5) and thus determine how 'strong' the bet suggestion is, or do we just follow the selector advise, and bet with every showing?

I'm trying here to look at this from a layman's standpoint, and bring some sort of normal reference to this project.

Previously, there was a session limit of 30 spins, is this still the case?


Perhaps, if I may be so bold, could U or MyThos or other(s), provide Forum with a new Associate Topic- (keeping this Topic clear for correspondence, and ALL matters DNA),
and maybe produce a nice Blog formate, of U and whoever, playing a game session with the DNA software?

Then we could read a minute by minute, blow by blow account, of the in's and out's of using the software.

U could tell us in layman's speak- what to look for, what the codes mean in short hand, and how the selection of bet can change the way the session progresses.
Perhaps some useful tips/tweaks might emerge from sure a session overview?

Do U think such a Blog sister act could be a good idea for This Forum?
I have not read other forums comments on this project, so I have no idea what has been said about this project by others, My main concern is to facilitate the Readers of This Fine Forum, (and myself), with as much information as possible.

.............and the idea just popped in my head.

Cheers Malcop/Philip.

Thanks for the continuing update threads.

[malcop]

Hi Philip.

So in conclusion.

Is the DNA software automatic now in its bet selection?
And more to the point - is it FULLY automatic?

When the software give Us a bet selection, do we now have to read where that bet has come from (AC1- AC5) and thus determine how 'strong' the bet suggestion is, or do we just follow the selector advise, and bet with every showing?

I'm trying here to look at this from a layman's standpoint, and bring some sort of normal reference to this project.

Previously, there was a session limit of 30 spins, is this still the case?


Perhaps, if I may be so bold, could U or MyThos or other(s), provide Forum with a new Associate Topic- (keeping this Topic clear for correspondence, and ALL matters DNA),
and maybe produce a nice Blog formate, of U and whoever, playing a game session with the DNA software?

Then we could read a minute by minute, blow by blow account, of the in's and out's of using the software.

U could tell us in layman's speak- what to look for, what the codes mean in short hand, and how the selection of bet can change the way the session progresses.
Perhaps some useful tips/tweaks might emerge from sure a session overview?

Do U think such a Blog sister act could be a good idea for This Forum?
I have not read other forums comments on this project, so I have no idea what has been said about this project by others, My main concern is to facilitate the Readers of This Fine Forum, (and myself), with as much information as possible.

.............and the idea just popped in my head.

Cheers Malcop/Philip.

Thanks for the continuing update threads.

Hi Chris,

sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I emailed Don on some of the questions/comments you have outlined in your post, my problem a the moment is that sure you could ignore a particular mode but the software is set-up to monitor all modes, so for example you could decide to just bet with one mode and it my be in positive for the session but with all the other modes combined the session is in negative, and based of this information the software will exit the session!  I find that very frustrating so have not been using the software very much.

I know Don monitors this thread and maybe something could be done for example a simple check box that could turn modes on and off.

Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Update from Don

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I tested the above data sample comprising 215 (which was identified as a tough session) and DNA system yielded a +36 and the Strategy P1AM2A yielded a +110. This implies that whenever the Game Direction Indicator (GDI) is on a rising trend, just wagering for every spin using the Strategy P1AM2A gives an exponential return. On the contrary, when the GDI is either negative or on a reverse (losing) trend, it is best to refrain from using the System as it can be interpreted as in chaos.

Therefore, I request the users to observe the above with their respective data samples and post comments to the forum. Also, by copy to Dulan, I am requesting to develop a graphical illustration of the GDI to be visually observed by the users of the system.

Please post this comment to the fourm.

Best Regards

Don

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Thanks

malcop

[chrisbis]

A simple 'Traffic Light  Indicator system would be just enough.
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Red-   =don't bet............indicators are that Chaos is reigning. (Negative Array)

Amber=Bet with caution- situation is changing.

Green=Bet now, as all the indicators are for a Positive Array and outcome.

Wouldn't this be enough for most conditions?

Please pass on to Don and his team.

Regards Chris

[malcop]

A simple 'Traffic Light  Indicator system would be just enough.
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Red-   =don't bet............indicators are that Chaos is reigning. (Negative Array)

Amber=Bet with caution- situation is changing.

Green=Bet now, as all the indicators are for a Positive Array and outcome.

Wouldn't this be enough for most conditions?

Please pass on to Don and his team.

Regards Chris

Hi Chris,

The traffic lights are a great idea or something like it, I do think if we could have some sort of optimal betting trigger then maybe that would make this a long term profitable method.

But I can see how it would help those who use the system for on-line play but not sure who it would help anyone wanting to play this at B&M casinos.

Don monitors this thread so no need to pass on your very good suggestion.

If Don could make a few changes like your suggestion it would be great.  Maybe we could have a version that only told you to bet when the GD was in the players favour.

Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Another update from Don.

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Dear Philip,

There are two links: (a) one with the controls and (b) one without any controls to play any number of continuous spins. The latter does not lock you out. Also, I included the newest observation I made in the book that would be uploaded tonight. Please post it to the forum.

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     "An important salient observation made subsequently reveals that when the Game Direction Indicator (GDI) is experiencing a steep rising trend, just wagering for every spin using the Strategy P1AM2A gives an exponential return, over a lengthy interval until the trend reverses. On the contrary, when the GDI is on a steep declining trend, it is best to refrain from using the System."
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Best Regards

Don

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Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Another update from Don
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Dear Philip,

With my observations, GDI can be allowed to go down upto about -10 and if it goes down, it is likely to head towards chaos. If you observe enough, you may be able to use your intuition and when the system starts recovering from a deep trough, you may enter again. For example, if the system goes down to about -15 and for 3 - 4 consecutive spins if it recovers, then wagering may be recommenced. However, the first link will strictly prevent you from going into a deep trough.

The first link is equivalent to being driven and the latter is equivalent to being shown the direction.

Best Regards

Don

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Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Another update from Don
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Dear Philip,

With my observations, GDI can be allowed to go down upto about -10 and if it goes down, it is likely to head towards chaos. If you observe enough, you may be able to use your intuition and when the system starts recovering from a deep trough, you may enter again. For example, if the system goes down to about -15 and for 3 - 4 consecutive spins if it recovers, then wagering may be recommenced. However, the first link will strictly prevent you from going into a deep trough.

The first link is equivalent to being driven and the latter is equivalent to being shown the direction.

Best Regards

Don

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Thanks

malcop

Hi All,

My last post and conversations I have had with Don, got me thinking about what would happen if we used the GD indicator as a trigger whether we should place a bet or not.

After playing/testing sessions this is what I have come up with so far, I have achieved over  a 90%
success rate so far.

I use the GD column and look at the last three GD figures they all have to be ascending if they are I place the indicated bets, I will keep placing the indicated bets until I see the GD figure descend by two then I stop and wait for my trigger again.

Here is an example of what I look for:

11 13 14  15 14 10 - Stop Betting GD gone down two, wait for new trigger.

-6 -4 -2 1 3 1 0 -  Stop Betting GD gone down two, wait for new trigger.

If GD is less than -10 then I will not place any bets I will wait for GD to raise back up to -10 and above and bet when I have a trigger.

I'm still trying to sort out a good exit point, but that should not be a huge problem.

It is early days yet but as Don said the GD is the key, and all the sessions where I played this way my balance was higher than if I had just played to the indicated system bets.

What I am trying to do is rid the wave and when the system is in winning mode you can see the GD column raising so it makes sense to use GD as you trigger.

I did think it was a fluke at first but the more sessions I play this way the more I believe it is not, you do have more waiting around to place a bet but if it works and cuts down on the losses who cares.

Oh I almost forgot don't use the first software link use the second one, it does not force you to exit the session.

Please Note: I have only been using the trigger idea when their is an indicated bet by the software, I have not tried out betting on all Strategy P1AM2A suggestions with my trigger idea but that is something I will try out.

Thanks

Malcop

[Droganson]

Hi, malcop! I am extremely interested in your method of play. I have tested the software myself but unsure of how to see the GD bets and how to bet according to the GD? Can you provide a guide on how to get the GD bets to show up and how to bet when they do show? Thank you!

[malcop]

Hi, malcop! I am extremely interested in your method of play. I have tested the software myself but unsure of how to see the GD bets and how to bet according to the GD? Can you provide a guide on how to get the GD bets to show up and how to bet when they do show? Thank you!

Hi Droganson,

The tests/sessions I have done so far as I described above, you will always know what to bet because the software shows you where to place your bets.

So all you have to do is wait until the softer indicates you have a bet, then you check the GD column to see if you have a trigger.

That is all I have done for now and my results betting this way in a huge majority of sessions have been better than just placing bets when the software indicated you should, I have been in positive when the system has been in negative!

The only system sessions that had a higher positive value were sessions that the system won almost ever bet, and we know that does not happen very often!

Of course it goes without saying more testing/playing will be required.

I will look into if their is any merit in using this idea for all Strategy P1AM2A I will let you all know if that also bears fruit.

Thanks

malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

I'm still having good success with my trigger idea, remember what I am doing is using my triggers as a filter, so when ever the system indicates you have a bet, I check the GD column and see if it falls within my trigger range, if it does I place a bet if not I do not place a bet simple!

Sure you skip a lot of system bets but if you end up with more positive sessions then I think it is worth it.

I have played quite a few sessions this way and the more I play the more confidence I have in my trigger idea. 

I still only use 15 units per session, and working on a good session exit strategy.

When you think about it makes sense really when the system is doing well the GD will go up and all I'm doing is only start betting when that happens.  A bit like trying to ride a trend, in this case I am trying to ride a winning trend and if it is not I just stop betting and wait for another winning trend.

For all off those that have written of DNA as a failure give my idea a try and let me know how you get on.

Thanks

malcop