DNA OF ROULETTE SYSTEM: Your opinions, please

[malcop]

Hi All,

This a reply to an email I sent to Don asking what the hold-up was with the latest upload to his website

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Dear Philip,    Sorry for the delay in responding. Yesterday, Dulan and I wokred till 1 am but we could not resolve some of the errors in the programming logic. Both of us were exhausted and both of us had a full working day ahead, so we stopped at that. Dulan is already back at work now and I am going over to his house in another one hour. We are determined to upload it today. No sooner we do that, we will keep you informed in the next minute.    Best Regards   Don
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malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Latest update email from Don

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Dear Philip,    We could not finish it after having worked until 3 am. Then we stopped. We will be sitting down to do it only on Monday the 14th as Dulan has an exam in the week end and I will be out of Colombo for two days. Sorry for the delay but this is a matter of life and death for us well as the people who have faith in us. So, we do not want to make any mistakes. Best Regards   Don

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malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Latest update from Don

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Dear Philip,
It is 4.00 am in the morning at our end and finally we accomplished the task. The new software was uploaded just a few minutes ago. Please inform the forum members to test and comment.The latest e-book is also now down loadable with illustrations on risk hedging.
Best Regards
Don and Dulan

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malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,

Update emails from Don,

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Dear Philip,    If you want to prevent captial erosion at the outset, just do inside wagering also as directed but the gains would be very slow. But, if you play just as directed by the system, then you will really play it. When the system reaches an exit point, it will throw a message and lock you out, so you can either quit or commence a new session with new data.    Arc6 is the name Dulan has given to the software and it does not mean anything to the user.    Best Regards   Don

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Dear Philip,    IMPORTANT OBSERVATION:   I have tested inside wagering being guided by this system and the results are not that good. So, rather confine inside wagering only to hedge the risk of capital erosion at the outset. However, there is one thing you can do. Identify the sectors common to columns and dozens and keep a few smaller value chips on numbers that have occurred within the last 10 - 15 spins which belong to the common area.    Best Regards   Don

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Dear Philip,    We tested this on large data sets and the results are much better than the eariler system. Here the biggest improvement is that we track the wave within two spins from its emergence. Earlier system did not allow that and as a result we missed the best part of the wave. So, just testing a few spins may not give you the best feel of the system.    For example, I had the toughest ever data set of 161 consecutive spins taken from the MGM casino last December. None of the previsious versions were able to outperform that data  set with continuous wagering. However, it is done this time with this gradient system. Here, once a good trend emerges, we ride the entire full wave and some times the gains are close upon +30 at one stretch.    This time, I want the players to upload large data sets and see what the final result is. Because this system can be used for continuous wagering.   However, with your comment, I can still make the last version available parallely for players to compare the two and see. Shall I do that tonight? Please let me know. May be the players can get guided by both systems. However, the last system was ridiculed quite extensively by the players after having tested large data samples. I feel that they are right because I know the reason why it happened. Beauase we always missed the best part of the emerging wave.    Please continue the testing and keep me posted of your expreiences.     Best Regards   Don

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Dear Philip,    You are absolutely right. We reexamined the process upon your e-mail and there is a small problem. Due to a technical oversight, the commands from the old system also appear on the comment column. We will be correcting it tonight. Thanks for the update.    Also, we are trying to assess the overall impact by suppressing one condition. I think the yield will improve remarkably with that course of action. Please give us five more hours to perfect the system.    Best Regards   Don

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Dear Philip,    As a result of the technical oversight, the comment "TREND' also appears. THere is no trend in the new system. Please give us five hours to correct the system completely and test the other additional optimization condition.    Sorry for the inconvenience.    Best Regards   Don

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Dear Philip,    It is now 100% automated. Just wager exactly for what is being directed. Inside wagering will help in spins that lead to losses but on winning streaks, it will consume a part of the profit. On the other hand, identifying the common areas to dozens and columns and placing smaller value chips on numbers that have occured in the immedate past would enable exponential profits. For example, if you are directed to wager for AA & KK and if the numbers 10 and 1 have occured within the last 15 - 16 outcomes, there is no harm in placing an additional smaller value chip inside on those two numbers. However, you have to identify the common areas visually and match it with the numbers on the electronic display panel. But, it is a difficult process that you may not be able to carry out within 45 seconds. Please post this paragraph to the forum.     Good Luck Philip.    Best Regards   Don

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Dear Philip,    There is a minor bug which I detected that would reduce the possible gains. As Dulan is fast a sleep when I called him I cannot disturb him today anymore. It will take another 24 hours to be corrected. Therefore, when you see a * on the extreme right pertaining to the column wagering, refrain from wagering until we clear the minor process error tomorrow.    Best Regards   Don

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malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,


Latest update from Don,


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Dear Philip,

I interpret your silence as disappointment. Surfing strategy works on my old samples but does not appear to be effective at all. As a fianl attempt, I revisited the Roadmap and played live for many hours during the past few days with remarkable success. I will initially provide a guideline with a guided practice session for the players to try out and provide me with a feedback. Only if it is absolutely working (so far I have done it during the past few days with MGM in Sri Lanka) I will hard code it. Dulan is not free today and I will make the Roadmap Guidelines available in a semi-user friendly manner tomorrow night. Once they uderstand the concept, they really need not be visually guided.

Best Regards

Don


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Dear Philip,

This time no mistake. I found the fundamental mistakes in our stragegies. The biggest problem had been wagering for both the Dozens and the Columns simultaneously. I have been doing it in every software upload from the inception. Now, it is only eithter one of them at a time.

I was playing for eight hours since yesterday. My achievements were absolutely fascinating with the Roadmap Link. Yesterday it was a +16 within 44 spins. Today it was a +20 within 23 spins. Also, this will enable a player to wager frequently and continuously for any period of time with self defined exit rules.

Dulan is extremely busy these days. I will at least upload the demo pacakge with an improved Roadmap to make the life better for the players. I have already finished the manual and Dulan has to make a few changes on the visual objects that he can do in a few minutes. Also, I will design the entire logic now and give it to Dulan. He had been my partner for this project since 2009 October and I am sure that he will oblige to finally conclude the research once and for all with a maximum of two hours of his time, as the new logic has to be written completely outside the existing logic.

I will keep you informed of the progress.

Best Regards

Don


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Dear Philip,

We accomplished the task. Everything needed is uploaded. I am so confident that it works. Therefore, ask the forum members to use the demo package uploaded, understand the method by using the visual guidance provided and then post the comments. I will reply any mail directed to darcolonne@yahoo.com.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, the players must understand that wagering is done either for the Dozes or for the Columns at any given time. The fundamental mistake we made from the inception is consolidating them.

Meanwhile, Dulan is not available for one month from yesterday upto the 19th February. Therefore, all of us have the freedom to test it before I finalize the parameters for the logic. I have already designed it and I will keep it well documented for Dulan, so that his life will be easy in coding.

Best Regards and Best of Luck this time.

Don


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Dear Philip,

We changed the name only to be RACETRACK. The strategy more appears to be be how a formula car is driven in a racetrack than being navigated by a ROADMAP. Also, after a thorough examination, we realized that D1/C1 which are more predictable and lenthier in duration than D2/D3/C2/C3 are prematuarly terminated, thus we allowed that to continue by one more spin than the latter. Also, we changed the peak value determination to be a variable of BV of the current record +9, against the fixed value of 15. Further, we added a session termination rule to EXIT after 8 X QUITS, that amounts to around two hours of real playing. I will be testing this for one month on this visual/manual mode prior to incorporating logic and formalizing it. If you go through the demonstration package, you will have it all. It is not difficult.

Best Regards

Don


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Hi Don,


I have been doing quite a bit of testing/playing with your new Racetrack version of DNA, and I have made a observation, instead of placing a bet when you see a * wait until you see two **'s, my thinking is that the column or dozen is on a winning trend, it seems crazy but that has turned this whole thing around, sure I have to wait a bit for the MWD or MWC to win twice in a row, but I have found this for me at least the most profitable way to use your new update.


So a recap I don't place a bet on an emerging MWD/MWC to acheive two ** in a row then I jump on the streak in hope that it continues, if you look at the amount of single * in a session then you will know what I mean, also if I get a MWD and MWC that have two **'s I bet on both of them as qualifying bets.


Like I said so far this way of using you new update seems to be going very well for me.


I hope this information helps.


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Philip


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The last email was from me to Don, just with my initial observations after using Don's new RCL-Racetrack upload, I also when both both Dozens & Columns qualify at the same time I bet on the columns and dozens, which is not the way Don is advising to play this new version, what Don advises is you use the elimination rules so you are left with only Columns or Dozens to bet on in the next round. I am not saying my way of playing is the best way of using this version, but for me at the moment it is working fine, you may find other ways of using this software to your advantage, Don would like feedback once you are familiar with this new upload.

You will find full instructions in the two documents provided on how to use this updated method to DNA of Roulette, read it though and follow the step by step guided session a few times until you understand what to do.

Website Link: link:://:.neworiginalthinking.com/dna-of-roulette.html


If you are going to look at this please read all documentation fully, and please remember this is still work in progress!


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malcop

[vundarosa]

Thx Malcop for the update....
Its tough to understand what is the bet without the felt (visual aid).....I've read through the RACETRACK guide but it just went over my head...

So how do those stars work again......?

Vundarosa

[malcop]

thanks Malcop for the update....
Its tough to understand what is the bet without the felt (visual aid).....I've read through the RACETRACK guide but it just went over my head...

So how do those stars work again......?

Vundarosa

Hi Vundarosa,


The stars tell you that you have a potential bet, but if you have more than one on the same row then you have to use the elimination rules, that would give you just one bet i.e just on columns or dozens, but these are only guide lines, see what works best for you.


The software dose all the steps for you apart from elimination rules if you have more than one selection  for a round of betting, but like I said see what works best for you, at the moment I only bet when I see  two stars i.e ** which means that the last two rounds have been winning ones for the method stared.  But do read through all the information everything you need is in the documents provided, I found it took a few read troughs to understand what was going on.

And work through the step by step demo walk through, do it a few times and things will start to make sense.

Any questions just ask.


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malcop

[malcop]

Hi All,


Please find attached the latest and possibly the last update to DNA of Roulette, now called RCVL-RACETRACK.


All you need for those interested is in the two documents enclosed, I have done extensive testing/playing with RCVL-RACETRACK to help Don get it to it's current state.


This is not a Holy Grail, I don't believe in such things, this is a betting tool that allows users to if they wish formulate their own way of using the outcomes from the software, and I think that is very important, so this software suggests where your next indicated bet should be, and then it is up to you if you follow the advice or not.


The ebook guide gives you suggested method of play for Outside and Inside wagering if your into inside wagering.


Over the the last 2 days I have been playing the way that is suggested in the ebook, this is something I have helped Don to develop based on my use of the software over the past two/three weeks.


Over the last two days I have played 15 live sessions which included two losing sessions, at the moment with the two losing sessions it makes my average wins per session as +6, the highest session was +17 and most of the sessions I played I ended the session in the +10 to +15 range, my two losing sessions were -16, -17 and I am presently up +94 units.


The only suggestion Don makes as far as bankroll is to use between 10-15 units, I have been using 20 units, with a 10 session bankroll. 


For those that want to run things through millions of simulations forget it, you can't do that you will understand why if you read the documentation.


Based on the suggestions of play given in the ebook guides everyone would come to the same bet selection(s), people will get different results based on how they play, for example some people may be happy with a +10 some may press on and make a lot more or just lose it all, like I said it will depend on the individual.


My testing with this method over the past few weeks the highest I made in one session was +34 but that was pushing it, also in one session I went all the way down to -20 and pulled the session back up to +17, not something that I will try to do too often, better to just right it of as a losing session and concentrate on the winning ones, remember this was all flat betting, and not betting on every spin, I  would bet either 2 or 4 units depending on qualifying selections, also I have not done any testing/playing on inside wagering with this method.


So RCVL-RACETRACK is here use it don't use it, the choice is yours.


Link to site: link:://:.neworiginalthinking.com/dna-of-roulette.html


I would like to end this post by thanking Don and Dulan for all the hard work they have put into this project over the past 2 years.

Thanks


malcop

[Nickmsi]

Hi Malcop . . .

I have been trying to work through this system and have several questions and clarifications.

1.  A bet is suggested when you have 2 consecutive stars or 2 out of the last 3.  Per the attached image, the possible bets would be for Dozen 2 and Dozen 3 as they both have 2 out of 3 stars.  In addition, Columns 2 and 3 both have 3 consecutive stars.

Are all four of these situations available to bet?  How do you eliminate any or do you bet on them all.

2.  If we do bet, what do we bet?  Per the image, Dozen 2 shows BC and Dozen 3 shows AA.

If we choose to bet on Dozen 2 (BC), Does this mean we bet 1 unit on Dozen 2(noted as B) and 1 unit in Dozen 3(noted as C).

If we choose to bet on Dozen 3(AA), does this mean we bet 2 units on Dozen 1(noted as A)?

I've read the e-book and documentation, but I don't understand the method of betting.

Thanks for your help in getting started.

Nick

[malcop]

Hi Malcop . . .

I have been trying to work through this system and have several questions and clarifications.

1.  A bet is suggested when you have 2 consecutive stars or 2 out of the last 3.  Per the attached image, the possible bets would be for Dozen 2 and Dozen 3 as they both have 2 out of 3 stars.  In addition, Columns 2 and 3 both have 3 consecutive stars.

Are all four of these situations available to bet?  How do you eliminate any or do you bet on them all.

2.  If we do bet, what do we bet?  Per the image, Dozen 2 shows BC and Dozen 3 shows AA.

If we choose to bet on Dozen 2 (BC), Does this mean we bet 1 unit on Dozen 2(noted as B) and 1 unit in Dozen 3(noted as C).

If we choose to bet on Dozen 3(AA), does this mean we bet 2 units on Dozen 1(noted as A)?

I've read the e-book and documentation, but I don't understand the method of betting.

Thanks for your help in getting started.

Nick

Hi Nickmsi,


The example you gave me is a no bet situation, first of all D1, D2, D3 are methods, this system tracks three methods for DNA D1 is normal DNA and two other I think D3 is inverse DNA ect. and the same goes for C1, C2, C3, as I said the example you gave for D3 if you look method D3 is saying AA which means place two chips on Dozen 1, but D2 also has two stars in the last three spins, but it is saying BC , for this to be a valid selection method D2 would also have to say AA, so in this case you will have no bets for the dozens.


if D2 did not have at least two stars in the last three spins, then you would just go with D3 and place your two chips on Dozen 1.

Also note that when looking far a valid bet one of the at least two stars in the last three spins must have been the last spin, the stars mean that method won so if you saw * * that means WLW but WWL would not be a valid selection.


The bet selection is 100% mechanical and every one entering the same spin numbers and using the same bet selection criteria should come to exactly the same bets, there is no guesswork involved.


It is very important that you fully understand what you are doing otherwise you will be betting incorrectly.


This may help with placing your bets.


Dozen 1 = A
Dozen 2 = B
Dozen 3 = C
Column 1 = K
Column 2 = L
Column 3 = M


So MM would mean two units on Column 3 or BC would mean place one chip on dozen's 2 & 3


Any questions just ask.
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As an update I am now up +134 units, my last session was a long one I played 146 spins and ended the session +38 units, total sessions played this way now 17.




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malcop

[Gizmotron]

Malcop, the more elaborated the mechanical bet selection process the more difficult it is to see the killer sequence of spins that show its weaknesses. Have you power tested this with a computer simulation yet?

[Bayes]

the more elaborated the mechanical bet selection process the more difficult it is to see the killer sequence of spins that show its weaknesses.

You can find the pattern which generates consecutive losses by taking a few spins and then supposing that you lose spin after spin - the pattern of spins which is produced will be the killer sequence. This is a "working in reverse" kind of approach; much easier and faster than writing a simulation. 

[superman]

Have you power tested this with a computer simulation yet

I tested the first 3 or 4 styles of this method, none worked so I gave up, to be honest I thought interest would have faided but the creator keeps changing it as the bad runs appear.

Before anyone asks, nope I am not going to test it again.

[Gizmotron]

Bayes - yes - that actually does work very well. 

[Nickmsi]

Thanks for the help . . . I think I am getting it.

Per attached, would you be betting on Dozen A & C?

Would you also be betting on Columns K & L?

Thanks . .  Nick