Progression types for Double Dozens/Columns

[reggiepee]

Hi All

I've been playing roulette a while and enjoy it for entertainment purposes as well as making small financial gains (I'm not greedy) and trying to find a strategy, if we can call ANYTHING a strategy , but that's another matter. I play conservatively as taking a loss in your newly acquired profit is futile so I'm looking for a strategy that will allow for a small financial growth whilst playing double dozens/columns. I play this as I feel the odds (64% approx. mathematically) favour a degree of financial growth at every session tho the laws of the universe have bitten deeply into profit due to not looking deeper into various types of progression. I'd previously played a straight Martingale progression on 2 dozens which works (for a while) and eventually delivers a loss you can only think 'I guess that didn't work' and 'I need to find a less aggressive progression' that either allows me to break even or just below even when a dozen doesn't come up for a spell of play. My longest run without a win was 7-8 spins whilst playing on a low stake auto-roulette wheel with a starting bet of 30p and adjusted to the next level to encompass 6 losses, but like the supposed RARENESS of such events, it does happen and you get mugged, either by your own stupidity or some vengeful universal force

So I put it to the more experienced players who have more experience of progression methods and loss limiting. I'm looking for an aggressive progression (to understand it primarily), a near break even or just below break even progression and a loss limiting progression that won't destroy a bank roll when the that streak comes. I don't mind going 5 steps back to go 7 forwards, just as long as their is financial growth on my real money account after a session.

I also play on demo accounts sometimes for entertainment purposes and use sometimes use 'Vivo Live European Roulette' app on Facebook which has a live wheel/video feed I use whilst trying other strategies, for 'real data' purposes.

Much appreciation in advance for those offering their knowledge, expertise and general advice.

Many thanks

Rob

[GLC]

Here's a couple of possibilities.

If lose        Bet          No of times to bet          If Win
-2             1-1                    1 time                     +1
-6             2-2                    1 time                       0
-18           6-6                    1 time                       0
-36           9-9                    2 times                      0
-60          12-12                 3 times                      0
-100        20-20                 3 times                      0
-170        35-35                 3 times                      +5
-290        60-60                 3 times                      +10
etc....

You could go on to 4 times if you wish.



Here's another one, and it's the one I prefer:

Bet line 1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 etc...

Move 1 step to the right on a loss.

Move 1 step to the left on odd wins and bet once and move 1 step to the left on even wins and bet twice. 

This means that if you have 4 losses in a row your next bet will be 13-13.  If you win that it's and odd win, win number 1.  You then drop back to 10-10 and bet this amount 2 times because it will be bet #2 which is an even bet.  If you win both of these, then you drop down 1 level to 7 and bet 7-7 one time and then you drop to 4-4 and bet it two times, then you bet 1-1.  You won't always recover completely, but it's better to take a loss every now and then than to always go for a win every time and have to bet the farm for a dozen eggs.

The math for the above is

1-1 + 4-4 + 7-7 + 10-10 = -44 units.

13 + 10 + 10 + 7 + 4 + 4 + 1 = +49

+49 -44 = +5

Of course every time you lose your next bet is 1 step to the right.

Maybe these 2 ideas will give you what you're looking for.

GLC

[soggett]

wellcome to the forum

I would like to add a bit, it depends on you W/L registry but

a) +2/-1 progression works very well
b) betting in cycles of x spins ( you can use whatever progression you like this way)
c) after 2 L's wait for virtual win, then bet for half of what you are down, so ie you are down 10 units your next bet is 5-5, 2 wins and restart (gets crazy if you have dont hit a WW in time but does good otherwise I think)

plus take a look at some of GLC posts, you can find a great progression for every betselection 

and not to forget the GLAT progression for double dozens courtesy of GLC and atlantis

[Ralph]

Sorry I have no progression which not will skyrocket in time.

Thou shalt not hedge thy bets.

[Turner]

Thou shalt not hedge thy bets.

Dozens: chapter 3, verse 10

[eddy35]

Last week I've read the E-book of Stetson Bailey and his foolproof system. It's made for even chances but I tried it on the dozens and it worked surprisingly well.
What I did was betting on 1 dozen and adding 1 chip every spin. Till you reached your next high then reboot the system.

A good thing about this way of playing is that you can adjust your bets when the stakes are getting too high. For example.............. if you have to put 24 chips on the table and you are very near you last highest point, just reboot.

I will do some more testing but I like the idea using the foolproof betting system on the dozens.

[Ralph]

Last week I've read the E-book of Stetson Bailey and his foolproof system. It's made for even chances but I tried it on the dozens and it worked surprisingly well.
What I did was betting on 1 dozen and adding 1 chip every spin. Till you reached your next high then reboot the system.

A good thing about this way of playing is that you can adjust your bets when the stakes are getting too high. For example.............. if you have to put 24 chips on the table and you are very near you last highest point, just reboot.

I will do some more testing but I like the idea using the foolproof betting system on the dozens.

One one dozen it is a reasonable progression. I should try to bet just one on the losing streaks and add after a win just.
We then get use of the times our dozen hits, and bet less while they sleep.


If bets are high, and we do not have much to catch up, we can reduce the bet size, as we never know. I use to reduce at the first loss, often down to one.


Are we using negative progressions it works with one up on loss and two down on win.


A misstake when we use progressions, is we try to make new high in one spin, if we do it at a winning streak using more spins we are safer. 


Double dozen bet gets terrible fast out of control, and it needs two wins to get even from a loss.
It is only one difference with betting two bets in two spins and betting two at one spin, that's we are sure to lose one of them betting  two in one spin.

[eddy35]

Here I played about 100 spins foolproof betting system on 1 dozen.

I nearly reached a new high near 75 spins, playing for real money I would have rebooted  the system and starting at 1 unit again but this time I kept adding 1 unit to the bet. You can see in the curve how I went up and down but recovered  easily after 2 hits in a row.

[GamblerX]

Here I played about 100 spins foolproof betting system on 1 dozen.

I nearly reached a new high near 75 spins, playing for real money I would have rebooted  the system and starting at 1 unit again but this time I kept adding 1 unit to the bet. You can see in the curve how I went up and down but recovered  easily after 2 hits in a row.

I don't want to high jack this thread as it is about progression for Double Dozens/Columns, not single column betting.

However, checking at the theory you suggest, it only works for single d/c IF the betting stake didn't pass 10u. Otherwise, it needs more than twice in the row to recover.

For example:

1 L (cumulative loss 1)
2 L (cumulative loss 3)
3 L (cumulative loss 6)
4 L (cumulative loss 10)
5 L (cumulative loss 15)
6 L (cumulative loss 21)
7 L (cumulative loss 28)
8 L (cumulative loss 36)
9 L (cumulative loss 45)  << BREAKING POINT for 2xW RECOVERY!
10 L (cumulative loss 55)  2xW gives negative balance and so on...

One way out is to 'half' the loss by doing a calculation after every 'non' double win. Maybe you came up with another clever method?

[GamblerX]

I don't want to highjack this thread as it is about progression for Double Dozens/Columns, not single column betting.

However, checking at the theory you suggest, it only works for single d/c IF the betting stake didn't pass 10u. Otherwise, it needs more than twice in the row to recover.

For example:

1 L (cumulative loss 1)
2 L (cumulative loss 3)
3 L (cumulative loss 6)
4 L (cumulative loss 10)
5 L (cumulative loss 15)
6 L (cumulative loss 21)
7 L (cumulative loss 28)
8 L (cumulative loss 36)
9 L (cumulative loss 45)  << BREAKING POINT for 2xW RECOVERY!
10 L (cumulative loss 55)  2xW gives negative balance and so on...

One way out is to 'half' the loss by doing a calculation after every 'non' double win. Maybe you came up with another clever method?