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Started by buffalowizard, May 30, 06:17 PM 2013

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buffalowizard

Hello good fellows,


This one has me intrigued...


Lay it out in a 3x3 matrix style, numbered 1-6 (representing the double streets)


So as the numbers come out it would look something like this:


1 3 2
2 1 1
3 1 3


Now here's the thing, it's a simple betting procedure... we're simply fishing for
a repeat after spin 1 (spin 1 being the top left hand number)


We then go along horizontally each row, looking for repeats both horizontally
AND vertically.


This means sometimes we are betting on 1 double street, and perhaps other
occasions, 2.


This also means that the progression could be tricky to work out.


The top row will all be betting on 1 DS.
The second row, first number will be too, but the next 2 numbers on the second row
will betting 2 DS.
The 3rd row is the same as the 2nd.


Each mini game is one of these 3x3 grids.


I have looked at dozens of these grids and only come up with 1 so far where there
has been no vertical or horizontal repeats.


This means that it has caught my attention and I will begin to note down here
each mini game of 3x3 grids, but first I need a progression suitable for this if any
wise head can formulate such a thing for this.


Here's a grid from my sample, and an average one at that.


5 1 1
1 3 4
2 1 6 


So you see, the first number, 5, we don't bet on. We then bet for a repeat of it.
Loss because a 1 showed up. We then bet for  repeat of DS 1, and it wins.


That's that mini game won and you can close it down and start afresh or hit the
road, or fridge or whatever.


Another one:


3 4 6
2 4 3
6 1 3


You'll see many grids that have 2 or more repeats in them. I don;t chase after multiple
repeats and shut it down after the one only. Here, we win on the second row on DS 4.


Remember, we have 8 chances to get a vertical or horizontal winner. On the second row
when the win is on DS 4, we would also have been betting for DS 2, to try and win on the
horizontal too.


Hope this is fairly clear by now. Grab hold of some grids and see for yourself!


BW

ulsteroptom

first test


240 spins


44 games played (44 grids)


only 3 Losses (3x3 grid -no repeats) out of the 44, impressive




ulsteroptom

another 300 spins


60 games played


again only 3 losses




agesta

47 spins
10 games
+20 units :)
Agesta

soggett

If my math is right the progression goes something like this:

1,1,1,1,2,3,4,6

bettin 1DS, 1DS, 1DS, 2DS, 2DS, 2DS, 2DS, 2DS

total 35 units
average 2,625 units per win

14 wins to 1 Loss is required for profit

so ulsteroptom has some nice profits  ;)

very nice Buff, will give this a go, thanks
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

buffalowizard

This is great guys,
Thank you for helping out with testing and cheers soggett for working out a progression.

Agesta, what progression were you using?

I'll do some tests tonight

BW

buffalowizard

Latest test

32 winning grids

2 losing grids

I guess the amount you win by depends
on when you hit and whether it's on a
1 DS or 2 DS

More later

ulsteroptom

@ sogget


would the bets not be


1DS, 1DS, row 1
1Ds,2DS,2DS row 2
1DS, 2DS,2DS row 3

buffalowizard

Quote from: ulsteroptom on May 31, 07:14 AM 2013
@ sogget


would the bets not be


1DS, 1DS, row 1
1Ds,2DS,2DS row 2
1DS, 2DS,2DS row 3

That's correct ulster

Perhaps that would also affect soggetts progression
too. Means it could be slightly milder even?

buffalowizard

More testing:


45 complete grids -


42 winning grids


3 losing




It is very quick and easy to test on random.org
if you get 3x3 and then keep clicking again to
recreate the grids over and over.


BW

buffalowizard

Further grid testing


30 grids


30 wins


0 losses




Still holding up great so far


Could it really carry on defying the odds?

soggett

Quote from: ulsteroptom on May 31, 07:14 AM 2013
@ sogget


would the bets not be


1DS, 1DS, row 1
1Ds,2DS,2DS row 2
1DS, 2DS,2DS row 3




Quote from: buffalowizard on May 30, 06:17 PM 2013

We then go along horizontally each row, looking for repeats both horizontally
AND vertically.


This means sometimes we are betting on 1 double street, and perhaps other
occasions, 2.




The top row will all be betting on 1 DS.
The second row, first number will be too, but the next 2 numbers on the second row
will betting 2 DS.
The 3rd row is the same as the 2nd.  UUPS, I missed that



sorry guys, my bad


then the progression goes
1,1,1,1,2,2,3,5

total 27 units

2,625 units per game on average
11 wins per 1 loss needed in average

even better  ;)


To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

buffalowizard

Quote from: soggett on May 31, 09:49 AM 2013



 
sorry guys, my bad


then the progression goes
1,1,1,1,2,2,3,5

total 27 units

2,625 units per game on average
11 wins per 1 loss needed in average

even better  ;)

Good news indeed soggett,

Could you tell me how much is the winnings
per step in that progression please mate?

Much appreciated, then I can work out exactly
how much won each session


ulsteroptom

102 GRIDS PLAYED


10 LOSSES


JUST BELOW THE 1 IN 11 :(




2 GIRDS LOSS IN A ROW, TWICE - SO 16 BETS LOSS IN A ROW- HAVE NOT SEEN 3 IN A ROW YET -

buffalowizard

Hm food for thought

It would be interesting how in terms of MM
you would cope with that and maybe we need to
Close down a session after a single loss or else
cater the progression for two or three grids in a row


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