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Started by eddy35, Jun 08, 07:54 PM 2013

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Serendipity

Quote from: Chrisbis on Jun 26, 04:59 AM 2013
Well, I just played your numbers, upto the last #6, and yes, even playing Atlantis new method, (with EC repeat tweak), U got a bad set of numbers there.
I lost 36.5 units in those 33 samples U posted.
workings out in the text sheet. :-(

thanks man for your time. Indeed bad set of numbers there. Must be tweaked somehow... I'm still working my brains out, although I cannot figure out why a session works just fine and never get down below 2-3 level of progression and another one (of more than 150 spins) is a total mess.

Best Regards,

Adrian
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

Chrisbis

Because the progression ambush, when the wins come, after a long losing run, is just not up to the job.
As though the highway-man has been sent out with a Pea-Shooter, to rob a mail waggon!

The staff would laugh at him! LoL

Either, double the progression, and increase both halves of the bet (since You know for definate that wins will come),
or U got to do check-stops, and reset the game, maybe come back to it another time.
Think that is why Atlantis only ever plays short session games.
Roulette..........................
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Serendipity

Quote from: atlantis on Jun 26, 06:54 AM 2013
Now that some time has gone by and others are testing it seems the EC+Line system idea, as I put forward it, is now throwing up losing sessions for some people. I am not altogether surprised as I have had some protracted sessions with little or no profit myself but overall I personally have done quite well with it. I suppose it was really only a matter of time before the "killer run" of numbers had to surface eventually to dispel any hopes and dreams that it could run positive for very long periods. I believe I have been fortunate not to encounter such a run. Nevertheless, I am disappointed at the news as well. I am not now sure whether any further tweaks to the selection of EC or Line is going to make any appreciable difference in the long run... Maybe I was just kidding myself that it would work better with those in place. However, there is always something to learn. Others may say "I told you so" but I know I have tried with this but still, am happy to accept that this system is no better than any other or simply not a viable proposition. Thanks to those who tried it and reported back - and to those who are still winning - may you continue to do so with even more success!!
I think I will halt my play and withdraw from tests for a while and look at some of the other systems posted recently plus in the meantime I will wait for a new idea to show itself or ponder on new plan of attack or course of action.
A.

The obituary of an amazing system. Nice said and thank you for everything. I personally was so excited about it too... Now, there is nothing left to add.
Let's move on, we can do better.

Adrian.
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

Chris555p

Hi Atlantis and everyone

I agree with u; I have tested the system on live roulette and have also experienced several times
LLLLL's.....

The system is playing 24 numbers.....; The 24 numbers with which I have the best results
so far comes from B.Morton. 

From my testing and playing with real $ on live Wheel it is quite rare to have 3 L's in a
row.....  I play it just as ND indicated.

The link is below relating to the method is below: 
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=11309.0


Cheers

Chris


Chrisbis

HOLD THE FORTe!!!

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Just before a mutual friend of ours fly's off into the Western Sunset, he has sent me a means to break the mould.
I will post up a solution, and a new format when i get back from a shopping trip!.
Don't mind this one, cause i get a nice meal during it! LoL

Laters taters.
You can all smile now!  ;D
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

Serendipity

Quote from: Chrisbis on Jun 26, 10:12 AM 2013
HOLD THE FORTe!!!

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Just before a mutual friend of ours fly's off into the Western Sunset, he has sent me a means to break the mould.
I will post up a solution, and a new format when i get back from a shopping trip!.
Don't mind this one, cause i get a nice meal during it! LoL

Laters taters.
You can all smile now!  ;D

we are still here :)
waiting
:)
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

atlantis

:)

Could it be GreatGrampa has a new angle on this??
Waiting like the others...
Oh- wait a minute! I think he did something different in the spreadsheet. Ah... I see!  :)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

I see I may have been too hasty in dismissing my original progression idea for EC+Line. Having gone back and revisited it I can see now why Sam has been gaining so well. If we change the EC combo slightly as Chrisbis has implied and stick with the original progression as GreatGrampa shows then it might change for the better.
I will leave to Chrisbis to divulge in entirety...

:)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

TwoCatSam

Atlantis and all.........

I find nothing wrong this this idea just as written.  I have just played a game at Always Cool Casino.  They spin fast and one must think quickly.  They have a crazy way of accepting your bets to make you think you bet wrong.  Really nice folks!!

However...................

I played for $1 per EC and line, which is their minimum.  I dropped about $50 in money before it turned around.  I ended up with $11 profit for about six minutes on line.  The stress got to me or I would have stayed longer.  Lot of difference between betting dimes and dollars.

I know I have not had the absolutle RFH yet and I don't know how I'll handle it.  Or if I will........

Still not ready to make any Johnlegend statements!!

Samster
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

RFMAXX

any news on chrisbis tweak?

ignatus

Try playing it with straight ups then? If hitrate is good, just like the "green grass" works perfect with 24 numbers bet.

I know, unhit numbers hit more, that's why i am working on non-repetition systems right now. All efforts with hotnumbers and repeats are wasted effort then In My Humble Opinion

This could be well adapted with straight up's I would play it like the green grass, just remove 2 numbers on low, and one number on the ds(recent hit numbers), and remove each number hit, until a new high.... with +1 negative progression

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KoolKat

Quote from: atlantis on Jun 26, 11:49 AM 2013
:)

Could it be GreatGrampa has a new angle on this??
Waiting like the others...
Oh- wait a minute! I think he did something different in the spreadsheet. Ah... I see!  :)

A.

Hi Atlantis I would like to do some more manual testing. Can you confirm are we testing on your Bet selection or GG?
Appreciated always Koolkat

atlantis

Quote from: KoolKat on Jun 27, 12:38 AM 2013
Hi Atlantis I would like to do some more manual testing. Can you confirm are we testing on your Bet selection or GG?
Appreciated always Koolkat

Hi KoolKat,
OK. Good. I have to go out but I will explain GreatGrampa's way later in more detail - and it is not too different actually.
BTW, it did turn rayhd and serendipity's results into winning sessions.
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Serendipity

Quote from: atlantis on Jun 27, 03:37 AM 2013
Hi KoolKat,
OK. Good. I have to go out but I will explain GreatGrampa's way later in more detail - and it is not too different actually.
by the way, it did turn rayhd and serendipity's results into winning sessions.
A.

Yes, I was watching how the master made my numbers sing.
Thank you!
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

Chrisbis

Morning All.

Yes I can confirm that Great G has shown us how to tackle the wheel that is "playing its tune" against us.
Basically its to turn Ur bet on its head, if U get two losses in a row,
but also to "read" the wheel on each re-track.

So, at present, our BetSelection was:-
RO/BE....High + Line 3
             or
RE/BO.....Low + Line 4

Now, if U get two losses in a row, change that to:-
RE/BO....High + Line 3
             or
RO/BE.....Low + Line 4

It really all starts with what the wheel is throwing at U at the time U enter the fray.

Revert back again, once Won, or on another double loss.

The other trick, is to take the session, and break down into mini breaks, where Ur target is to make +3

Here is a snip screen copy of the Excel sheet Great G made for Serendipity numbers, and U can see for Urselves.

Note:
We don't bet every spin........
Make the +3 (target mini session/game), and then re-track. U will see in the excel shot.
(see the attached)
The progression discussion needs to continue, to see if the 1/0.5 or 1/1 balance is the best.
I favour the 1/0.5 as U win on EC landings. All goes towards that +3.0
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

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