1 Dozen + 1 Double street

[ozon]

I   dont   know why  this  happen.   Even if  this not  live and  they  manipulat  with numbers .
The  difference in the windows is something strange.

[TwoCatSam]

To my knowledge, Dublin only has human dealers.

Wish I could have seen that chip-scattering fiasco.  I'm there so much, don't see how I missed it.

TwoCat

[teo]

They do Sam......BUT....have also seen queer things happening there/didn't wish mentioning it earlier,
as thought may sound silly/......watch closely each croupier hand prior to spinning the ball....you
might notice some peculiar things...one croupier for about 50 or so spins....but as if didn't spin the same hand all 50 spins...watch.

[Turner]

Strange indeed.
Maybe they play a loop of video, of the last spun number, until the "No More Bets" is called on the next spin?

The ball pinged out the wheel on Latvian live dolly dealer...i commented..."the wheels spinning too fast", she said, "i don't think so Player Turner" in one second....I think its live

EDIT:
Im not saying it isnt bent in some way. I cant prove or disprove this. Im dead against conspiracy theory based on bias....not personally acquired proof.

I have found this casino (the live dealer) to be fair and acceptable in the 2 weeks live testing of my Quad Cycle system.

I can (and only ever will) comment on my personal experience

[Chrisbis]

I have found this casino (the live dealer) to be fair and acceptable in the 2 weeks live testing of my Quad Cycle system.

May I ask, which casino that is pls? 

[Serendipity]

Hi there,

seems that ro/be method is better overall and mixed up with opposite EC + last line is the best system so far.
Did someone experience some losses or big drawdown and what would be the unlucky combination that could cause some problems from time to time?

Adrian.

I will reply this question myself, because I've experienced a big drawdown (60 u) using ro/be method and the worse part is that I wasn't even closer to win them back in over 160 spins I've played. It all started up with 10, 19, 8, 9, 10, 30, 28, 21, 1, 22, 0, 21, 3, 3, 34, 33, 33, 21, 0, 12, 14, 33, 24, 30, 15, 36, 28, 19, 30, 0, 22, 1, 6 ... and so on... Very disappointed... Something went wrong. Can someone give me a hint?

[Turner]

May I ask, which casino that is please? 

21 Nova....will hill....Swiss....

They all use the same Latvian psudo casino...

[rayhd63]

Hi Atlantis and all of the Roulletiers,

since Nick is still abroad, I was trying on a Excel sheet an got that number sequence

18
25
11
27
9
4
13
9
12
0
26
30
16
26
8
23
25
12
36
5
1
1
31
2
12
7
10
9
10
11
9
9
2
10
9
29
10
27
36
10
27
15
25

Could you have a look on this one ?!?
To me it looks like there is a big loss sequence of 34 !! on the DS !!
How would I react to this one.....  My Excel sheet killed me on this one.

If you`re wondering where these number came from : Wiesbaden 2013/05/02 Table BAS starting after spin 152
So they are actuals....

Ray

[ozon]

To my knowledge, Dublin only has human dealers.

Wish I could have seen that chip-scattering fiasco.  I'm there so much, don't see how I missed it.

TwoCat

I play sometimes 10 hours a day  in  Dublinbet , always  test   everything  in   there , still  think its most  reliable  online casino.
But I  saw  couple  strange things.

[rayhd63]

But I  saw  couple  strange things.

what strange things ?!?

Could you tell us more about it ?!?

Ray

[ozon]

One   of  them   was that  thing   with chips  on  wheel.
In day is alot more   diffrent bad  streaks , long sleepers series,   looks like  play againsty progression  players.
At  night ,  when  the  people sitting  there, play  is  more   random  , almost always good systems  for   streaks  ,lose in  this  time .

[Chrisbis]

.........................over 160 spins I've played. It all started up with 10, 19, 8, 9, 10, 30, 28, 21, 1, 22, 0, 21, 3, 3, 34, 33, 33, 21, 0, 12, 14, 33, 24, 30, 15, 36, 28, 19, 30, 0, 22, 1, 6 ... and so on... Very disappointed... Something went wrong. Can someone give me a hint?

Well, I just played your numbers, upto the last #6, and yes, even playing Atlantis new method, (with EC repeat tweak), U got a bad set of numbers there.
I lost 36.5 units in those 33 samples U posted.
workings out in the text sheet. :-(

[Chrisbis]

Hi Atlantis and all....

[reveal]
18
25
11
27
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26
30
16
26
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25
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36
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[/reveal]
Could you have a look on this one ?!?
To me it looks like there is a big loss sequence of 34 !! on the DS !!
How would I react to this one.....  My Excel sheet killed me on this one.

from : Wiesbaden 2013/05/02
Ray

@ Ray.
Yep, just looking at those, U too got a bad set of numbers for this method. Would have lost. :-(

Need new rule for these repeating ECs - tweak, and maybe make the opposite rule if EITHER of the two qualifying Group EC repeat.
ie. RO/BE is play High + Line 3  (treat as ONE group)
but, instead of just moving to opp when one of them repeats, we could move if Either repeats! (as a group)
Just  a thought.

(by the way, I also played your numbers with something New I have been trying, called BisCending 9 till 5, and your same numbers gave me an impressive +162 units win,
using them as if I was 'blind'! Interesting.
I will post more on this new idea later, once tested to destruction! ;-)

[atlantis]

Now that some time has gone by and others are testing it seems the EC+Line system idea, as I put forward it, is now throwing up losing sessions for some people. I am not altogether surprised as I have had some protracted sessions with little or no profit myself but overall I personally have done quite well with it. I suppose it was really only a matter of time before the "killer run" of numbers had to surface eventually to dispel any hopes and dreams that it could run positive for very long periods. I believe I have been fortunate not to encounter such a run. Nevertheless, I am disappointed at the news as well. I am not now sure whether any further tweaks to the selection of EC or Line is going to make any appreciable difference in the long run... Maybe I was just kidding myself that it would work better with those in place. However, there is always something to learn. Others may say "I told you so" but I know I have tried with this but still, am happy to accept that this system is no better than any other or simply not a viable proposition. Thanks to those who tried it and reported back - and to those who are still winning - may you continue to do so with even more success!!
I think I will halt my play and withdraw from tests for a while and look at some of the other systems posted recently plus in the meantime I will wait for a new idea to show itself or ponder on new plan of attack or course of action.
A.

[Turner]

Rays numbers hit doz1 twelve times straight.. This is absolute limit from my observations. Ive seen 11 with random....9 with real spins