1 Dozen + 1 Double street

[Chrisbis]

...and here is a section of the Excel for Rayhd63's posted numbers.

Note the large play middle section, so they were tough numbers for sure.

[Chrisbis]

The whole Excell for those interested.
Serendipity and Ray numbers.
(the Ray sheet is incorrectly titled Serendipity at the top of the sheet) 

[atlantis]

Thanks Chrisbis - you beat me to it!

When Gramps mentions a "double loss" to cause a switch bet to opposite he means change the bet after 2 outright losing spins in succession where neither the EC or line bets won.

Gramps says:
"Revert back again, once Won, or on another double loss"

What I think he really means here is revert back on the next double loss - unless you reach the target win (3+) in which case restart the next game by returning to your usual starting color combo.

I'm with Chrisbis that there **may** be something in starting with a extra preliminary level of 1EC + 0.5Line - but still keeping the normal progression rules: up 1 on EC after overall loss on spin; up 1 on Line after 2 consecutive overall losses - except that the very first increase in the LINE bet would be up 0.5 to 1u.  From then on the betting levels would follow the original progression rules...


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[atlantis]

Another thing I do, and think Sam and others are also doing is if you get to a situation where your next bet according to the progression is say, "5uEC + 1uLine" is to do a +1 on the line, otherwise there is no profit to be gained on a line win... So the bet is adjusted to 5uEC + 2uLine.

I've had 3/3 wins +9.5u today and never needed to do the EC "switch" and my highest bet was 6EC and 2Line. I started with the 1EC + 0.5Line stake.

I'm playing with 20p "units".

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[TwoCatSam]

Atlantis

RE:  Your above post.

I have modified my thinking, but either way is OK.  If you have 5 on the EC and 1 on the line, the line is a push, but the EC pays a net of four.  Your chances of an EC win vs a line win is 18 for the EC and 6 for the line.

Anyway you shake this tree, some good apples fall off.

Sam

[Serendipity]

Another thing I do, and think Sam and others are also doing is if you get to a situation where your next bet according to the progression is say, "5uEC + 1uLine" is to do a +1 on the line, otherwise there is no profit to be gained on a line win... So the bet is adjusted to 5uEC + 2uLine.

I've had 3/3 wins +9.5u today and never needed to do the EC "switch" and my highest bet was 6EC and 2Line. I started with the 1EC + 0.5Line stake.

I'm playing with 20p "units".

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did you start following the wheel according to the new method?
If so, I assume that if you started against the wheel like old system, you'd lost... or would have a hard time...
congrats!

Adrian.

[Serendipity]

Another thing I do, and think Sam and others are also doing is if you get to a situation where your next bet according to the progression is say, "5uEC + 1uLine" is to do a +1 on the line, otherwise there is no profit to be gained on a line win... So the bet is adjusted to 5uEC + 2uLine.

I've had 3/3 wins +9.5u today and never needed to do the EC "switch" and my highest bet was 6EC and 2Line. I started with the 1EC + 0.5Line stake.

I'm playing with 20p "units".

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did you start following the wheel according to new method?
If so, I assume that if you'd started against the wheel like old system, you would have lost...
congrats!

Adrian.

ps: sorry for double post

[Chrisbis]

Just delete one of them.
And I will delete this too, once U have done so.
Each Post author, has the ability to delete that which YOU and only YOU have posted/written. 

[Serendipity]

Just delete one of them.
And I will delete this too, once You have done so.
Each Post author, has the ability to delete that which YOU and only YOU have posted/written. 

well... seems I'm not allowed to do that... anyway, let's move on.

[atlantis]

did you start following the wheel according to new method?
If so, I assume that if you'd started against the wheel like old system, you would have lost...
congrats!

I started the usual way with if RO/BE then play HIGH and Line 3; if RE/BO then play LOW and Line 4.

Gramps says that starting for or against the wheel (whatever that means) is just a matter of preference but that it is the "switching" that is the key!

But please correct me if I got it wrong, Chrisbis.

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[Chrisbis]

Well, I think it would be a 'mistake' to be so rigid right from the start.

So, lets say the start point can be either way:-

RO/BE.......High + Line 3
and
RE/BO.......Low + Line 4

OR

RE/BO.......High + Line 3
and
RO/BE.......Low + Line 4

What we need, is which direction the first few plays should be,
by looking at the trend of the current wheel/spins performance

[atlantis]

Hi Chrisbis,

Yes. Makes sense. Maybe take the side doing best out of last three results to be the start combo?

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[Serendipity]

hi Atlantis,

agree with that. seems like the trend of the current wheel performance lasts for many spins in a row, because I've noticed that the 'switch' is not performed many times during a session. So 'reading' the trend would make a difference.

Adrian.

[Chrisbis]

Shall we take this over to the New Topic with the Right Title,
and we can throw some spins from somewhere at it,
and see what the indicators lead us to bet?

[atlantis]

Good idea. I'm over there now.
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