4 Sector

[ignatus]

So, when will we learn? Betting many numbers is no good idea, that's the lesson I've learned yesterday.

This is a set of 4 numbers next to eachother on the wheel.

I've made a small tracker for this; just press <ENTER> and it will randomly generate a four numbers sector.

How to play this? I decided to use a cyclic progression for four numbers; 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2... One sector is bet eight times, then +1 bet for another 8 spins. Then STOP. (if no hit during 16 spins, look for a new sector & restart this is just my playing style, choose your own if you don't like it!) from my short test hits usually come within this 16 spin cycle.

And last, (how I play this) generate a 4 numbers sector that haven't been hit for the last 10-20 spins.

[Chrisbis]

Better Bet Selection 

[Drazen]

So, when will we learn?

With no offense many are wondering that for you...

For how long are you inventing things which are based on same principles? And you figured out that those principles don't work mate...

First of all your progressions and MM-s...

You have good coding skills as it seems to me. And with your admirable enthusiasm you could make something that works better then all things by now...

My friend betting more numbers is same as less numbers, if you will understand.

Mathematical orthodoxy must prevail in this game. And it will. Using sleepers, hot numbers, streaks, more numbers, less numbers, wheel base, carpet base or anything else won't affect on that...

Drazen

[ignatus]

With no offense many are wondering that for you...

For how long are you inventing things which are based on same principles? And you figured out that those principles don't work mate...

First of all your progressions and MM-s...

You have good coding skills as it seems to me. And with your admirable enthusiasm you could make something that works better then all things by now...

My friend betting more numbers is same as less numbers, if you will understand.

Mathematical orthodoxy must prevail in this game. And it will. Using sleepers, hot numbers, streaks, more numbers, less numbers, wheel base, carpet base or anything else won't affect on that...

Drazen

I try and I fail and I try again and I fail,... well, this is the nature of roulette.

So, you're saying this won't work? I *imagine* a four numbers sector has a greater chance of being hit, especially if it haven't been hit for the last 10-20 spins... this is similar to my other strategy "Easy Wheel Prediction", to bet a a sector within the biggest "gap" of numbers.

What I know IS that unhit numbers will hit more than repeaters or hotnumbers

That's the best I figure for now.

I'm doing this, for myself first, but all feedback is good, so i can hopefully do better next time and learn something new

How to calculate the odds for this 4 numbers sector to hit within 16 spins? (add to that formula, +10-20 spins for betting a unhit sector)?

[Drazen]

First of all little advice about quoting. You don't need to quote full post if you are referring to it and replying just below. In that case use quotes only if you are referring to one sentence or thought in it. Like I am doing now for example.

So, you're saying this won't work? I *imagine* a four numbers sector has a greater chance of being hit, especially if it haven't been hit for the last 10-20 spins...

Now you are onto better options here. But use more spins here for your 4 numbers sector. Actually good would be to start after 3.0 STD and play for next x spins... If you dont know how to calculate it, look in maths section. Bayes explained that there.

If it doesn't hit, leave it, and search next opportunity like that. Don't chase for too long and don't use aggressive progressions. I mean not plus on first hit progressions...

Drazen

[ignatus]

Now you are onto better options here. But use more spins here for your 4 numbers sector. Actually good would be to start after 3.0 STD and play for next x spins...

If it doesn't hit, leave it, and search next opportunity like that. Don't chase for too long and don't use aggressive progressions. I mean not plus on first hit progressions...

Drazen

Thanks for these advices, good ones. Now, I wish i understood what you said here: "Now you are onto better options here. But use more spins here for your 4 numbers sector. Actually good would be to start after 3.0 STD and play for next x spins... "

sry for my bad english :S

How many spins should one wait before betting this 4 numbers sector?? And what progression you suggest?

A negative cyclic progression is used.... after 8 spins +1 bet when hit -1 level. That CAN get out of hand, that's why STOP after 2 cycles of 16 spins....?

[ignatus]

26 spins is enough. Just wait 10 spins (look in spinhistory) for that particular sector not being hit, then start betting it with the 8 spin cyclic progression.... I tested this with real live-spins. (as you can see from the chart) All hits was within 16 (+10) spins

[Chrisbis]

Nice sharp Zig-Zag graph.

[ignatus]

Yes, I've lost 50â,¬ yesterday, (green grass-strategy) so i don't want to lose more today. im just trying to find something that could work better.

More testing is needed. Now i must smoke some weed and find new energy before I can play this .. hehe 

[Chrisbis]

more "grass" eh ! 

[Drazen]

Now, I wish i understood what you said here

If you don't understand you can read about it here:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1093.0

I am also attaching for you one nice tool for easy calculation of STD. You just need to enter how many numbers you are betting and how many wins you have in some sequence and it will tell you the deviation.

For example when I was saying about 3.0 STD for 4 numbers it would be 75 spins without hit... it is the same as 10 reds or blacks in a row on EC-s for example. It is the same mathematical value...

It is all mather of odds and it is all the same thing in other words, so that way I said it makes no difference will you use more or less numbers, no matter wheel or carpet based..

Yours 10 spins without hit for 4 numbers is just slightly over 1STD. Not high deviation at all.

I guess losing money is fun only if you are high. But if that doesn't bothers you, fine with me 

Enjoy

Drazen

[ignatus]

Thank you Drazen 

link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=upyS4VCU5uI

[ignatus]

OK, following Drazens advice:

Wait 75 spins,(?) bet the unhit Set of numbers (sector) OR the last sector left...
This is wheelsectors clockwise around the european wheel.

Set One: 0 15 26 32

Set Two: 2 4 19 21

Set Three: 6 17 25 34

Set Four: 11 13 27 36

Set Five: 8 10 23 30

Set Six: 5 16 24 33

Set Seven: 1 14 20 31

Set Eight: 9 18 22 29

Set Nine: 7 12 28 35

Set Ten: 0 3 26 32

[ignatus]

hmmm....... I really think the original version was best, with no modification.