The Crawl for Even Chances

[GLC]

This is a progression idea only.   

Use your favorite bet selection method.

This is a positive progression of sorts, but it does have a bite.   It is similar to Oscar's Grind but a little less volatile.

The bet line is divided into 2 number brackets: (1-2) (3-4) (5-6) (7-8) etc...

We must win 2 times in a row before we can move to the next higher bracket.  We always bet the smaller of the 2 numbers after a loss.


We never retreat in the bet line.  We only move to higher brackets until we reach a new high bank or we hit a stop-loss.  As with all stop losses, the larger it is the fewer times we'll every see it.

Any time we reach a new high bank balance, we reset back to the 1-2 bracket.

We're not aiming for just +1.  We always have an exact bet to make and that's what we make.  If it puts us ahead more than +1, and most of the time it will, it doesn't matter, we make that bet.

That's the basic idea.


There are options galore for this.   

A few obvious ones are 3 or 4 number brackets.   

And one that is possibly worth a hard look at is to only bet enough to reach +1.  This will mean that we either bet the next bet in sequence if a win leaves us at +1 or less or, if it would put us at more than +1, we only bet enough to reach +1.  This means that whatever number we bet to reach +1, if we lose, we stay in the new bracket.  This will always be a smaller numbers bracket and it will help us keep a little better control of our bet sizes.


Critiques are welcome.


GLC

[Ralph]

If the bankroll B is the players total money at disposal at any moment.

We then say the player rise his bet B/N every time he wins.

It will then take N losing in a row to blow the bankroll.

We will eventually lose N bet in a row.

This is true even if the player has a positive expectation.

Oscars Grind can win for long, but will for sure
in time lose in any game even if the odds are at players favour.

We have better chance to survive if we lower the
stake at certain points, which is not (only) new high, rater after a win or after some winning or losing bets.

[Chrisbis]

Can we have a reminder, of what Oscars Grind Bet MM is, so we can make a direct comparison George?

Please?
(nearly forgot my manners then!) 

[GLC]

Oscar's Grind also known as Pluscoup is stay at the same unit size after a loss and increase by +1 after each win.  Never bet more than necessary to reach +1.  Easy Peasy.


The killer sequence is WLLLWLLWLLWLWLLWLLLWLLWLLLW etc...  In other words a win followed by losses.  We keep increasing our bet size only to lose the next few spins thus driving us ever downwards into the nether world.

GLC

[Dutchy]

   
        George,your hell sequence.
                                                 
                                                   w-+1
                                                   L-(-1)
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   w-virtual win
                                                   L-(-1)-(-2)
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   w-virtual win
                                                   L-(-1)-(-3)
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   w-virtual win
                                                   L-(-1)-(-4)
                                                   w-virtual win
                                                   L-(-1)-(-5)
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   w-virtual win
                                                   L-(-1)-(-6)
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   w-virtual win
                                                   L-(-1)-(-7)
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   w-virtual win
                                                   L-(-1)-(-8)
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   L-no bet
                                                   w-virtual win
            George down -7, not too bad for hell sequence.I think my favorite of yours is the one on Trioplay.Only increase after second win at that bet level and bet same after a loss.      
                                                   

[Priyanka]

But Dutchy, will the hell sequence not different for the way youy are playing. To me, every bet selection will have a killer sequence. It is very difficult to manage it with any progression. Define a stoploss and pray that the next 2 sessions will not be killers.

I might be wrong here as well as am just a starter

[ego]

Nice topic George ...

[GLC]

But Dutchy, will the hell sequence not different for the way youy are playing. To me, every bet selection will have a killer sequence. It is very difficult to manage it with any progression. Define a stoploss and pray that the next 2 sessions will not be killers.

I might be wrong here as well as am just a starter

Well said Priyanka and welcome to the forum.  Every progression has a losing sequence.  Every bet selection method has a losing sequence.  Reasonable win target and stop-loss, moderate progression or flatbet, adequate bankroll, self-discipline and patience all are important.

Like our friend Ralph says, variance can kill us even if we have a slight edge over the house.  That's why we need a hefty playing capital.  Even a casino has losing days.  But they have enough bankroll to keep playing through the "days from hell" and recover the losses tomorrow.

In my humble opinion, you can take any system and using the tools presented on this forum, create a way to play it so that with the little sprinkling of luck, you can have a real shot at winning.  We can never get away from the fact that as long as there is one or more numbers that can cause you to lose your bet, eventually they will hit close enough together to be classified as the "run from he!!.

But, as our friend Ego says, it's fun playing around with different ways of attacking the wheel.  Even if the financial reward is limited, the mental stimulation is valuable, especially for us old guys who need to keep our minds active.  You know, use it or lose it!

Continue to share your wisdom with us.  I like to tell all new members, "You may be the One!"

GLC

[Dutchy]

   Welcome Priyanka to the forum and thanks for the response.My point is you have to do something against a losing streak and everybody will approach that differently.A definitive answer to that problem would be nice.Ego,why not show us how you would handle a losing streak so we can all learn?George keep posting in mm.I enjoy that.

[Priyanka]

Thanks Dutchy, GLC for the welcoming messages. I respect the wealth of experience here and that is the sole reason that brings me here! Hope to enjoy my association with the community.

[Turner]

George.
If I've learned anything its  what you said  in the paragraph " in my humble opinion"
I totally agree.
Someone here once said....give me any system and I'll give you a set of numbers that will kill it
It sounds defeatist and negative but its reality
Turner