An Even Chance System. What else is there?

[Tomla021]

I honestly tested a bit... this is is good as a bet selection!!!!! the progression is also good but I look at it diff

[Tomla021]

the whole idea is making me"giddy" , I'm at a casino and just got back to room---on15$ bacc I'm happy!!!!

[Tomla021]

Players Players--this one is good!

[Spin4Fun]

A test with RRRBBB marti progression on almost 12000 live spins.  Was promising 

[Spin4Fun]

Same nbrs RRBB test

[GLC]

We're definitely going to need some money management to try to avoid the drop into the Grand Canyon.

I'd say a reasonable stoploss should help.

Another idea is to stop playing after X number of losses until a win or a double win and then restart.

It doesn't guarantee against deep draw downs, but it should make it somewhat harder to find them.

@ Spin4fun:  Can you run the numbers again using a stop play after say 4 losses in a row and resume after 1 win or even 2 wins?

GLC

[Ralph]

It will work if you have luck! Betselections and methods we shall/can use  but if we win or lose is up to luck. It is a risk management in a method, we can go safer to less gain.  EC is if done proper small win and small loss.  The inside is good win or slow loss, there loss is more likley. If we hit number 12, better straight up than red

[GLC]

Please follow this link for a new twist on this idea.

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13314.new#new

GLC

[Tomla021]

m still up on this idea!  with twist or not....i would love to see more on the bad part of the test? 0 or 00 and what patterns killed it in the one portion?

[GLC]

A test with RRRBBB marti progression on almost 12000 live spins.  Was promising 

Fellow punters, this graph is a perfect example of a mechanical bet selection/bet progression system.  It's also an example of why a large bank is necessary when using a negative progression.  Overall the graph climbs upward but there are many small dips of 50 to 250 units.  A few of up to 1,000 units and a dip of close to 2,000 units.  The 12,000 spins represents about 240 hours of play at 50 bets per hour.

This shows that no matter what your bankroll is, if you play long enough you need luck to miss the RFH.  I still haven't lost my 350 unit bankroll allotted for testing this system.  I have had a 250 unit draw down but recovered nicely.

For any members/guests who are new to roulette, please take note of the above graphs.  They could be from any of 50 or more systems posted on this forum.  They show clearly why we're always preaching self control and money control.

That drop of 1800 units could have come much closer to the beginning of your voyage playing this system and unless you had a bankroll of 2,000 units, adios amigos.

Never play with money you can't afford to lose.

Even though I'm barely hopeful that we will ever find a system that avoids large draw downs, my main purpose in developing a system is to give me a game to play when I go to the casino that I have a reasonable chance to walk out a winner.  I know that there will be losing days and I expect it. 

If you can't take the heat, don't go near the fire!

[GLC]

Here's a little tweak in the bet progression.

Any time we reach + over our previous high, we reset.

Any time we are 5 units (bets, because at say level 2 where we are betting 2 units per bet, we would actually be at -10 units but only 5 bets down) down at a level, we move to the next higher bet level.  There is a caveat to this rule.  We never move to the next level until a steak of losses ends.  Example:  If we're at -3 and we get 2 losses in a row, even though we are at -5 units on this level, we don't move to the next level until we have a win.  If, after the win and the ending of that set, we are still at -5 or more, we then move to the next higher bet level.

Here are our sets:

Set #    If lose           Bet size         If Win

1                                 1               +1       Reset

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2           -1                   1             
                                    1                0        Reset

-----------------------------------------------------------------

3            -1                   1               
              -2                   1               
                                   +1              -1
                                   +2             +1        Reset   Had we lost here we would be -3 and reset

-----------------------------------------------------------------

4           -1                   1               
              -2                   1               
              -3                   1               
                                   +1              -2
                                   +2               0        Reset

------------------------------------------------------------------

5           -1                   1               
              -2                   1               
              -3                   1               
              -4                   1 
                                   +1               -3
                                   +2               -1
                                   +2               +1     Reset

You can go to 6 or more sets.  It's up to you.

Any time you have a streak of losses followed by a win and then a loss, it's time to evaluate to see if you are -5 or more in the hole and should move to the next bet level.

Either play D'Alembert style or stay at the current level until you either fully recover all previous losses or you reach minus 5 bets for this level and have to move to the next level.

We're just trying to keep our bet sizes as small as possible but still give us a chance to pull ahead by a few units.  I always play to +10.

GLC

[Tomla021]

I love this bet selection on baccarat!!!!!!!  ambi--or your betting GLC

[GLC]

I finally lost a 350 unit session testing on Betvoyager, demo mode.

I have resurrected "The Very Near Infallible Roulette System".  I know some of you don't care to that system, but I have never lost a session for 350 units.  It is very difficult to understand and even more to implement. 

I'm going to start a new topic and try to keep it pure.  Attached is the original explanation.

GLC

[Tomla021]

I'm looking at " very near " , but I'm not afraid of this one, I played Thursday using a gr 8 type of progression, I used 10 as the number 1111111111, 1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5, 2222222222,,, etc....I am close to winning a small bankroll on this one..and I'm not letting it go!!!!!!

[GLC]

I'm looking at " very near " , but I'm not afraid of this one, I played Thursday using a gr 8 type of progression, I used 10 as the number 1111111111, 1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5,1.5, 2222222222,,, etc....I am close to winning a small bankroll on this one..and I'm not letting it go!!!!!!

Good on ya Tom.  Thanks for sharing a good stable bet progression. 

I don't know if Very Near will be any better than this one.  I know that unless you take the author's suggestion at the end to play for small chunks it can require some decent size bets to clear the recovery banks.

Only playing for +1 helps also.

Business is going pretty well right now so I'm going to have to put a hold on applying for that chauffeur's position.