Even Chance System #101

[GLC]

We're going to move 1 step to the right on a loss and reset to the beginning of the bet line on a win.

Bet Line:  1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 etc... (For less volatility you can use 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5 etc...)

Keep track of all 3 even chances.  Any time you get 3 in a row, start betting for an end to the streak.

Sometimes you will be betting all 3 even chances at the same time.

Any time you are even or plus after a bet wins, reset everything back to 1.

Any even chance that was in a run of 3 in a row or more, continue to bet on it until it wins.  But, any time you reach a new high, you reset all bets back to 1, even those that haven't won yet.  We always play a streak until it ends.  If we are in a long streak, a win on the others usually won't cause a new high.

Zeros are a loss, but don't interrupt the patterns.

The reason this works is because your bet size is limited by the number of times an even chance hits in a row less the 3 not bet on in the beginning.  (Yes, you can use 2 or 4 or 5 or whatever as a starting number of hits in a row before starting to bet.)

Some examples are in order:
1.  You spin #s B4, R12, B6   That's 3 evens in a row and 3 low #s in a row so we bet 1 unit on odd and 1 unit on high.
     R9 spins.  We win on the odd bet and lose on the high bet.  We're even so reset all back to 1 unit.
     We bet 1 unit on high for the next spin.  Had we lost on both bets, we would be betting 2 units on odd and high.

2.  So B4, R12, B6, R9 with 1 unit bet on high.  R21 spins and we win on high.  Reset back to 1.  No bet for next spin.

3.  So B4, R12, B6, R9, R21 with no bet.  R25 spins.  We bet 1 unit on Black and 1 unit on Even.  R32 spins.

4.  So B4, R12, B6, R9, R21, R25 and R19 spins.  We lose on both.  Bet 2 units on Black and 2 units on Even and 1 unit on Low.

5.  So B4, R12, B6, R9, R21, R25, R19 and B11 hits.  We win 2 units on Black and 1 unit on Low and lose 2 units on Even.  Next bet is 3 units on Even.

6.  So B4, R12, B6, R9, R21, R25, R19, B11 and R12 hits.  We win 3 units on even.  There are no 3 in a rows, so we have no bet for the next spin.

That's all I have time for tonight.

I'll answer questions, if any, when I get a chance.

GLC

[GLC]

Try it by waiting for 2 in a row and playing +1 on a loss, reset on a win.  If reach a new high bank, reset all.

If you want to add some safety, only bet enough to reach a new high.  This will help keep losses on streaks down somewhat.

[GLC]

Some examples are in order:

3.  So B4, R12, B6, R9, R21 with no bet.  R25 spins.  We bet 1 unit on Black and 1 unit on Even.  R32 spins. (I noticed that I forgot to deal with R32 in the rest of the example.  Hope that doesn't confuse any of you.)

4.  So B4, R12, B6, R9, R21, R25 and R19 spins.  We lose on both.  Bet 2 units on Black and 2 units on Even and 1 unit on Low.

GLC

[GLC]

I've been having very good luck with this system.  Never failed to reach +20 in 20 sessions and never had a draw down of more than 100 units, and only got close to 100 units 1 time.

I have made a slight change in the progression.  I still play 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 etc..., but on a win, I move back 1 step to the left and wait for a betting opportunity on that even chance to continue.

Remember, each even chance has its own progression line.  Since we're only betting on one side of each even chance at a time, in other words if we're betting on R/B, we will only betting either Red or Black at the same time, never both.  So, we can bet the next bet in the progression line for R/B.  If we want to make it even safer, we can have 6 separate progression lines.  One for all 6 of the e.c. bets.

Any time one of the bet lines gets too high, say 10 or more, I take some of the units off that line and add them to the other two lines.  This helps keep the bets lower and less scary to make.

At any time I get close to a new high, I might reset all my bet lines to a point where a win on all of them will put me at a new high.  This means if I find myself in the hole by only say 5 units and my bet lines are at R/B=6, E/O=8, H/L=4.  Since I only need 6 units to be positive, I will reduce the unit to 2; 3; 2 or something like that.

These safety brake measures can always result in needing more spins to recover, but the safety factor is worth it unless you have a hefty war chest.

[GLC]

If you want to add even more of a safety measure, you can play 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7 etc...  One step to the right on a loss and 1 step to the left on a win.

The reason this works is that we only need to win 7 out of 10 bets to break even.  If we lose 10 times in a row, we will be -30 units -1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5=-30.  If we win 7 times in a row after that we win 30 units +6+5+5+4+4+3+3=+30.  (We start the win line with 6 because that is our next bet after losing the 2nd 5)  Because of wins on other e.c.'s we usually recover before having to win 7 out of 10 in each progression line.  So, if one of the e.c.'s get's hot, it saves our bacon.

This principle works whether we use 1-2-4-6-8-10-12-14 etc... or 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 etc... or 1-4-7-10-13-16-19-22-25 etc...  The more aggressive lines just causes us to go deeper in the hole before pulling out.  Of course we won't always lose 10 in a row and then win 7 in a row, but every time we lose and then win we win units.  The loss and win don't have to be back to back, they can be like this LLWLLLWLLWWLWLLWLWW.  We lost 11 and won 8 and you'll see that we came out ahead in that sequence using any of the progression lines above.

Here's a small plug for the complexity of using 6 progression lines.  If one of the lines bets are getting a little high, it's because that e.c. isn't showing as often as probability says it should.  Keeping "gambler's fallacy" under the rug, we can expect that e.c. to catch up.  Thus, winning us some units.  This is why it's not always a good idea to shuffle units around for safety because you might be shuffling them off the e.c. that's the most due.

Even though I know I'm ignoring "gambler's fallacy" in this system development, all I can say is, "Who doesn't?"  Also, in the last few systems I have posted, I am way ahead of the game.  I must admit that I'm using the safety brake more often because I don't want to give it all back and am willing to take more time to recover for safety's sake.

Once again, buyer beware.

GLC

[GLC]

Another option:

Play separate bet lines for all 6 even chances.

Wait until you get either 2 in a row or 3 in a row and then start betting for the streak to end.

Bet 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 etc... until you get a win.

If your win comes on the 5 bet or greater you will move to the level 2 bet line which is: 2-4-6-8-10-12-14 etc...

If while playing at the level 2 bet line and you lose on the 10 bet or greater, you move to the level 3 bet line which is, you guessed it 3-6-9-12-15-18 etc...

Any time you get close to your  previous high bank, you can adjust down a bet level or more for safety.  This is a conscious decision on your part.  It will be based on your bank size and risk tolerance.

All you have to do the keep track is note what your next bet is on each even chance.

It's really pretty simple to play and so far it's very stable.

I know there's someone testing this who doesn't post much.  Please feel free to step up and let others know that this is worth looking at.

GLC

[boshkodj]

Ok, I tested this system with 1 bilion spins, and at the end it was always ended in big profit.. so I made five 1 milion tests.. here are the results:

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Test 1 :

Profit : +5532
Biggest down ( below zero ) : -243

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Test 2 :

Profit : +1865
Biggest down : -89
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Test 3 :

Profit : +7101
Biggest down : -768
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Test 4 :

Profit : +4585
Biggest down : -365
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Test 5 :

Profit : +4189
Biggest down : -1366
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I did this without changing progression as you said in your last post, just +1 after loss and back to first bet after win..
For now it looks promissing.. There is no big downs, but for example in test 5 the biggest down is -1366, and it may seems little scary..

[GLC]

Thanks Boshkodj,  The results are not that surprising.  I could tell from the way it played that it was a good candidate to give us a reasonable chance at a win every time we go to the casino. 

There will always be losing runs with any system.  My guess is that it will show a slight loss on a double zero wheel which is what most of us Yanks have at our disposal.

I think the safety brake can soften most of the drawdowns a little.

Unfortunately, even 7,000 units won in a billion spins isn't so great that we should sell the house and run to the casino.  What does it work out to? .0005 units per spin give or take a couple of zeros?

The question is, can money management be used to improve the results?

Also, will short playing sessions make any difference?

And, can it be improved on?

Maybe a good candidate for non-zero roulette.

It's my new go-to system in roulette.

Thanks for all the effort you put into testing it.

GLC

[TwoCatSam]

George

Not trying to be the voice of ruin and damnation, but..............

You only win on spin 1 or 2.  Spin 3 is a push and from there on you're going in the hole.  It seems this idea is only viable if you get lots of hits on your fourth and fifth spin of the run.  Am I wrong?

When you win or spins 6, 7 or 8, you need a slew of 1 and 2 wins to make it up.  Do you get them?

Mathematically, this just doesn't shake out for me.

What say you?

Don't let the sinkholes get you.  Did you see the film on Florida?  It's the end of the world, George!  We must hurry to find the "Grail".

Sam

[Tomla021]

Dont bother George he's driving by in the Bently with christian rock coming out of the speakers---playing threes I feel is a good option its just tough to test

[rayhd63]

Hello Roulettiers,

here is my little excel tracker for GLC method.  Just add your numbers and see for yourself.
I have it the way that it starts betting after 3 EC 's in a row till a win, then starts again with 1.
The only thing I haven't done is the correction of the ZERO during betting....
Surely Nick could do this better , but meanwhile I think this could help
I'm sure Sam will find it interesting 

Should you find errors don't tell me  It would spoil the good results 

Have a great Day
Ray

[TwoCatSam]

Thanks Ray.  I'm still waiting for George to answer my post.

[GLC]

Thanks Ray.  I'm still waiting for George to answer my post.

Sam,  I understand your position and you're correct, of course.  All I can say is that so far I've been able to hit within the 1st, 2nd or 3rd bets a lot. 

I think that the combination of wins from 2 or 3 even chances helps to off-set a losing progression. 

Also, being able to distribute units from a losing progression to the other two seems to help.

I understand all the math as to why this shouldn't work.  That's why I'm a little surprised that it actually came out ahead a little.  I fully expected it to be very close but not quite in the plus.

My favorite way to play it is using a D'Alembert.  +1 on a loss and -1 on a win.  If I get 5 or 6 losses before a win, the next time I get to bet on that even chance, I start at the appropriate bet size.  Usually, winning a couple after a series of losses is enough to get me back to even or plus when the wins from the other 2 even chances are factored in.

I have finally passed -100 units draw down, but it recovered nicely.  My buy-in is 200 units.

For whatever reason, waiting for three in a row before starting the progression seems to work.  Go figure.

Try it for a session to +20 and see what I mean.

GLC

[Tomla021]

crazy place this is--a billion spins and no one cares?... all I know about George is he's honest and doesn't give up!

[TwoCatSam]

Tom

I care.  I just ask questions.

GLC

How do you do this handing-off of debt from one EC to another.  This borders on "Martingale Averaging", but not quite.

If I knew the exact rules, I would pay Nick $25 to write me a sheet.  (I have so many sheets now, I could hide under them when the wife calls!)

Sam