EC Bet

[Proofreaders2000]

Ignatus, I think this is the best progression strategy you can use for this method. Proof, how about 1,3,7,15. Very similar,

Depending on the hit-rate (provided it is high
enough 80% or better) your suggestion would work.

From my experience hit-rates fluctuate
downward, so five or more attempts may be necessary. 

Again it all depends on the hit-rate at the time.

[ignatus]

Here is a progression strategy for you
Ignatus. (Congratulations by the way :d)

1,(retrack)2,(retrack)4,(retrack)8,(retrack) 16 (stop)

Thanks proof

[TwoCatSam]

People

A small video with vocals would go a long way to showing this can be done in reality and not just in theory.  That is, if anyone truly wants to teach the method.  Not saying you can't do it; I'm asking if you truly want to disclose it.

Show us the thought process behind the bet and then the bet--win or lose. 

And, no, you don't have to.  No one is holding a gun to your head.

TCS

[Proofreaders2000]

Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-Friday, August 16,2013 @ 8:40am CDT USA

...8,5,35 (trigger)

Bet Low:    1.) 21(x)-10
-----------------Progression 2x----------------

...35,21(alreday spun)...34,18 (trigger)

Bet High:    2.) 23(win)+23(win)+20
-----------------Progression 1x----------------

...21,34,18,23(already spun-all red)...14,32,24 (trigger)

Bet Red:    3.) 11(x)-10
-----------------Progression 2x----------------

...24,11(alreday spun-all black)...19(trigger)

Bet Black:    4.) 10(win)+20
===========================================
+20--Hit rate 80%

[ignatus]

Thanks for testing proof. I've only played this on RNG, Good it preform well live also.

Thing is after a series of RRRRRB (bet black) what are the chances for a new series of RRRR to happen again? I think it's a slim chance that a new series of RRRRR will happen again, that's my experience anyway...

I've played this 3-4 times up to 100 units (1u bet) And I will play this for real next week

Cheers

[Turner]

People

A small video with vocals would go a long way to showing this can be done in reality and not just in theory.  That is, if anyone truly wants to teach the method.  Not saying you can't do it; I'm asking if you truly want to disclose it.

Show us the thought process behind the bet and then the bet--win or lose. 

And, no, you don't have to.  No one is holding a gun to your head.

TCS

I think the 3SD guys wont go that far...

I know why. its a difficult concept to work with and takes a lot of study, and why do all the hard work, then just go tell someone who hasnt. Ive lived with it for 20 years in Chess clubs....

(Playing a much better player)...Why did I lose? ..."well, your development was behind, I had the space advantage and central control and my rook sack gave me a temporary local piece advantage on your Kingside...giving me a tempo extra for the remaining 15 moves."

Thanks!...giving his superior understanding of the game away....but actually, giving nothing away.

You dont need to know how an internal combustion engine works to go to Walmart for the weekly shop...but you do need to know all the internal workings of how to use 3SD / regression to the mean etc

I get the concept. I know 9 reds in 9 spins gives 3SD. I dont know what to do when we get to that stage.

Its all a bit esoteric and "could tell ya BUT then I'd have to kill ya"

But ...stop whining Turner....get your finger out and get some studying done.

RK has brought forth Bayes SD/Z score post and I intend to read it. quite excited about the prospect.

Bayes is very giving and takes time to explain things in full. I have a lot of respect for his words.

[Turner]

@Ignatus

Trying to understand this, there are 2 ways. Which is yours?

You said

OOOOOOE <- trigger, now I bet for Even to appear again

So is that a) appear again next then retrack.....or  b) just appear again some time in the future and keep betting until it does

a) RRRB (bet black) R lose RRB (bet black) R lose RB (bet black) R lose BBBR (bet red) R WIN

b) RRRB (bet black) R (bet black) R (bet black) R (bet black) B WIN

[ignatus]

Turner: I'm not playing like proof, after a trigger i bet until hit. Why? Because i belive there is a slim chance repeats will happen again. Ofcourse it could happen, but what is certain in roulette?

[Turner]

Turner: I'm not playing like proof, after a trigger i bet until hit. Why? Because i belive there is a slim chance repeats will happen again. Ofcourse it could happen, but what is certain in roulette?

Ignatus my friend....so to dot the i's and cross the t's, you play b)

[ignatus]

yes

[rouletteKEY]

I get the concept. I know 9 reds in 9 spins gives 3SD. I don't know what to do when we get to that stage.

That's not a huge sampling on an EC ( I know you just threw it out as an example)...EC's are diametrically opposed to my mindset on this game...but if I was playing this scenario I would wait for the first black to hit and use a progression that let me play out the blacks to max out at the tracking sample and then use that as a stop-loss.  Then if I was still in the red financially after the attack...start the next attack at a higher unit value maybe.  It happens enough to beware that you could go 9 red...hit a black and then pop up a few more reds with a green or two thrown in just to really get your ire up.

So if it went 14 reds before the black hit I would use a 14 step progression (not a Marty) that would give me a decent chance at profitability...not flat betting...but 8 wins in 14 flat makes a little money (just not enough to warrant waiting for the trigger...not for me anyway).  I like the Fibo and then determine how many steps back on a win.  The other problem for me is this though...what if I win 3 straight right out of the gate and I am at a low bet size...I just won but I am moderately upset that I ONLY won so much after waiting so long.  It would obviously be a good problem to be saddled with...but in my mind it's still an issue...for me anyway.

My whole philosophical problem with EC's is that there just isn't enough recovery power with the 1:1 payout if you get blasted out of the gate or if you are running a progression and get a run against you as you're struggling through some higher bets.  You know it's gonna happen at some point...you just better have a Plan B when it does.

It's a game of waves and cycles...you can't hit 'em all perfect...but if you don't get slain along the way you can still make out just fine in the long haul by being steady. (Bet Selection, Bankroll, Stop Losses, Patience and Money Management...it's the same mantra all the time)

[TwoCatSam]

ignatus

You know your bet is almost like the Boffins. 

I played the Boffins for quite a while.  On all three ECs.  It is quite rare to see XXYXY on all the ECs within seven tries.  Normally, within seven tries you will see XXYXX and that makes you smile!!

I have paid Nick so much money for sheets, he is booking a cruise to New Mexico.  So I'll wait a few days on this idea.

TCH

[rouletteKEY]

Tricky cruise Sam...up the Rio Grande? 

[TwoCatSam]

Bloviation to follow........WARNING!!

I once visited New Mexico and found a magazine with a feature called "ONE OF OUR FIFTY IS MISSING".  It went into great detail about how ignorant people were about New Mexico.  "Did you have to exchange your money?"  "Did you go by boat or fly?"  "Did you have to get all those yucky shots?"

It was a riot!!  Seems a bunch of us don't know New Mexico is just East of Oklahoma!!  Wait!!  Let me get my map...

TCH