Keel's Original Recipe

[keel44]

Yes I came up with this myself.  It should work with any near 50/50 1 to 1 payout situation.

[foreverBOB]

HI Keel,

Thanks for sharing. I believe it could be a slow earner...
I've been trying some short sessions and what I find difficult is to put a higher bet at risk after the 10 flat bet spins. Suppose you have had 2 flat runs of 10 spins followed by a loser bet. Again you start a new third flat run of 10 spins and this time 8 out of 10 bets are a winner, so after the flat run, you bet 8 units. Now normaly if its your second run, it would be easily recoupable playing 8 unit bets. But after 3 or 4 runs, betting 8 units to recoup all, can become difficult.
I find your stoploss of 30 units very workable.
Have you given any thought to play last or second last EC instead of a fixed EC?

Regards,
Bob

[GLC]

HI Keel,

Thanks for sharing. I believe it could be a slow earner...
I've been trying some short sessions and what I find difficult is to put a higher bet at risk after the 10 flat bet spins. Suppose you have had 2 flat runs of 10 spins followed by a loser bet. Again you start a new third flat run of 10 spins and this time 8 out of 10 bets are a winner, so after the flat run, you bet 8 units. Now normaly if its your second run, it would be easily recoupable playing 8 unit bets. But after 3 or 4 runs, betting 8 units to recoup all, can become difficult.
I find your stoploss of 30 units very workable.
Have you given any thought to play last or second last EC instead of a fixed EC?

Regards,
Bob

Bob,  Maybe you could break the 8 units won into 2 bets of 4 units each.  If you lose the 1st attempt, you still have another chance to start a streak at 4.  It kind of waters the system down somewhat, but it may suit some players better.

Keel,  Thanks for the new idea.  It seems to be a solid way to play.  We need more new ideas.

GLC

[keel44]

You can most certainly make some adjustment to fit how aggressive you want to be.  As a matter of fact, if your flat bet of 10 is profitable on its own, no need to raise stakes at all.  You will find that catching a nice trend while betting 8 can be most useful when catching up.  Keep fiddling.....

[MrJ]

I might be able to help a little bit on this in terms of BET SELECTION. Which even bet, why and when........ I read this years ago and I highly agree with it >>

We'll use red and black as my example (L is black).

Always bet the second last outcome, NOT the last. Meaning, the red/black TWO spins ago. We usually get THREE main events with the ECs.

A) R R R R R R R R

B) R L R L R L R L R

C) RR LL RR LL RR LL RR

2 of the 3 will be winners for us, A and B. We only lose on C.

  The people that play the LAST outcome will only win on A and break even on C. If a 0/00 hits, repeat the SAME bet. This style of red/black betting can be used for many other methods, not just this one.

Ken

[biagle]

ken, can you give me example how you would bet this with your bet selection


RRRRBBBBRB

Thanks!

[MrJ]

R << Last to hit I assume? (this RED is a win because of two down is also RED)
R << This is the second last outcome, I would bet on RED.
R
R
L
L
L
L
R
L

Real SIMPLE.....bet on the second last (from the top) that hit, not counting those zeros of course. Like I said, this is the worse pattern >>

R
R
L
L
R
R
L
L
R
R
L
L When this starts to form, you can then switch to odd/even. Same thing, second last outcome.

Ken

[warrior]

Try this ,a cycle of 6 spins look for a double red or black stop on a win either color ,40 losses in 10000
Ex R BRR win wait for the cycle to end
     BB win wait ,and so on,you will be surprised now you can flat bet ,when you get 3 Ls in a row add a Marty for 7.or whatever progression .

[foreverBOB]

I've been playing this system for a few days on Unibet automated live wheel. The progress is slow and steady. I can enjoy the recipe but the overall balance tends to go negative after some time.
If this could be tested on larger data, I believe the end results will not be positive.
GLC, you mentioned to split up the 1 time bet into 2 parts. It would be safer indeed depending on the total amount to recoup.
If stoploss has not reached -30 then a first or second run of 10 spins may call for a single 1 time bet. However when a few consecutive runs are lost, then splitting the 1 time bet into 2 or more parts can be considered.
I have tried using some outside progression on Keels strategy, to recoup previous session losses. My opinion is that progressions in general fail.
Still, providing a small basebet and a large Bank, this system just needs a recoup strategy when several -30units sessions are lost.

[foreverBOB]

Forgot to mention:
Like MR J, I do bet second last on EC.
Double twins are the only horror : RR BB RR BB...
All consecutive hits are a win : RRRRRR...
Alternating Chops are a win: R B R B R....
Other patterns with no dominating twins will break even or win.

[keel44]

I would like there to be no stop loss with my strategy.  The reset should happen when you get +10, or whatever you like, depending on how much you are down or how much you want to keep playing.  I feel you should play it as close to small steady profits as you can.  You don't even have to raise your bet after the 10 if you dont need/want to.

My goal was to create a method that was just a little boost to flat betting.  That is all that is needed to get over the edge.

[donik7777]

Thanks so much Keel! I made some test with Baccarat .... nice results..i think that is strong method!
Best wishes.

[keel44]

Good to hear.  That's all I want; a strong method, a solid way to play, not a get rich quick scheme.

[rouletteKEY]

not a get rich quick scheme.

Keel...you've got half the battle with the right approach (attitude)

Gambling or business...get rich slow schemes are the key to success...just keep grinding out profits albeit small ones...nothing destroys a plan like losses.

Nothing really compares to the power of compound interest and consistent little wins eventually turn into big ones

Play smart and within your bankroll...don't let a couple bad streaks take you out of the game

[MrJ]

Just to recap........ Not sure what peoples views are for the BEST betting scheme on the EC's but as far as bet selection goes, the second last outcome is a winner, in my opinion. Maybe simply flat betting, nothing complicated?

Like I said, if it gets this far as a bad run >>

R
R
L
L
R
R....... No longer than this, I would switch to odd/even and STAY on that until you get the same bad situation. Then switch BACK to red/black.

Ken