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Past numbers have *NOTHING* to do with future events?

Started by MrJ, Sep 15, 12:56 PM 2010

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TurboGenius

Quote from: Priyanka on Apr 16, 12:03 PM 2016
Two questions for you and all others adapting to this personal karma thingy.

1. When you say your own are you talking about placing bets on those personal past spins or just observing them. 

2. How different is your personal past spins different from the past spins that is coming from a wheel "which is the wheels personal past spins"

1) No, I'm not placing bets on "past spins". They can only be used to show someone how you got to where you are. They are your past spins that you played. The person that you're telling them to can't use them - they have no value now. What he could do - is use the same strategy that you used to win. Random is like a test and your "book of answers" won't help the next player because he's taking a seperate test. You can still both pass the test, but you'll have different answers. Grins. I just gave myself a headache.
2) The wheel doesn't have past spins. If it could 'think' for itself, it would only know what spin just happened. When they track wheels to check for flaws - when it's not 'random' anymore because of some defect - they can tell that this sector or that hit above what random would allow for ("random has limits - math beats a math game" used to be a profile quote of mine). But on a wheel producing random results, having all the past spins you can handle won't help in trying to figure out what's coming next - or in 10 spins, or 20. So "past spins" for analysis by the casino makes total sense, if it's not producing random results then they can find out and fix the defect. The "past spins" reader boards are at the wheel just as an added trickery to exploit more money from the gamblers because (even they know) that these are useless to the player when it comes to what's coming next.
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denzie

Interesting. ...... so past spins mean nothing?  Well I disagree. They mean more then we think. In roulette we ALWAYS can expect some things to happen in some amount of spins. Yes ALWAYS.  So how to use that ? Well...by looking past spins .

I'm not gonna argue on this...but it is what it is. (No I don't mean that 10 times red come and now bet black). Pryanka knows more about this too. Even though I can't figure out what he exactly doing...he uses past spins too...with success.

Or Mr j ...complete a street and his other stuff...

Or RG...

Or
Or......

But hey Turbo. .... if you have Succes playing and thinking how you do....just keep on going

At the end it's all of us vs the casino  :thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

Rourke

Quote from: denzie on Apr 16, 12:50 PM 2016
But hey Turbo. .... if you have Succes playing and thinking how you do....just keep on going

At the end it's all of us vs the casino  :thumbsup:

That's the problem Denize... I can't quite grasp how Turbo approach the game of Roulette. I know he doesn't take past spins into account. Fair enough :-) But how does he choose his bets? Does he randomly pick a number between 0 and 36 or?

tuddilue

Quote from: TurboGenius on Apr 16, 12:03 PM 2016
Because everything in life is a learning process.
Yes but that answer you can reply to anything . That just makes me sad.

We are here to study the game of roulette not some strange riddles.

I asked you some direct questions and you did not answer. Then I know where I have you. Thanks.

maestro

His mind is filled with beautiful things,
past revelations and future sins.
He takes me to places
that i have never been,
to the edge of light
where darkness begins..


good poem i think...
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Dane

Quote from: TurboGenius on Apr 16, 12:15 PM 2016
1) No, I'm not placing bets on "past spins". They can only be used to show someone how you got to where you are. They are your past spins that you played. The person that you're telling them to can't use them - they have no value now. What he could do - is use the same strategy that you used to win. Random is like a test and your "book of answers" won't help the next player because he's taking a seperate test. You can still both pass the test, but you'll have different answers. Grins. I just gave myself a headache.
2) The wheel doesn't have past spins. If it could 'think' for itself, it would only know what spin just happened. When they track wheels to check for flaws - when it's not 'random' anymore because of some defect - they can tell that this sector or that hit above what random would allow for ("random has limits - math beats a math game" used to be a profile quote of mine). But on a wheel producing random results, having all the past spins you can handle won't help in trying to figure out what's coming next - or in 10 spins, or 20. So "past spins" for analysis by the casino makes total sense, if it's not producing random results then they can find out and fix the defect. The "past spins" reader boards are at the wheel just as an added trickery to exploit more money from the gamblers because (even they know) that these are useless to the player when it comes to what's coming next.

Nevertheless our brains fool us.
We simply can´t help it: Seeing some pattern
or other there in this added trickery.
The flies on the wall are trapped in TIME too. Clocks are missing.
The Casinos don´t need them. We seem to be unable to TRANSCEND TIME ANYWAY  :)
NO NEGATIVE PROGRESSION ADDICT

TurboGenius

Quote from: tuddilue on Apr 16, 01:19 PM 2016
I asked you some direct questions and you did not answer. Then I know where I have you. Thanks.

Unreal.
I won't even type out what I want to say to that lol.
Have a nice day.
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nottophammer

Is it a 1 spin cycle or 37/38 cycle that math uses
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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TurboGenius

Quote from: Dane on Apr 16, 01:36 PM 2016
Nevertheless our brains fool us.
We simply can´t help it: Seeing some pattern
or other there in this added trickery.
The flies on the wall are trapped in TIME too. Clocks are missing.
The Casinos don´t need them. We seem to be unable to TRANSCEND TIME ANYWAY  :)

Everything in the casino is set up purposefully for one thing - to keep you there and keep you spending money (losing - they hope). So when someone looks at the board of past spins - common sense should tell everyone that it's there for a reason and what that reason is. But you can't explain that to some people. The drinks are there to help you concentrate - the reader board is there to help you win because it's easier to see that "trigger" spot to start betting lol. It's amazing how much they try to help the poor gambler but they still can't manage to help people win !.
:thumbsup:
The gamblers should be offended that the casino thinks they are so stupid - but no - the gamblers will actually defend the casino's tactics and lose the whole time - blaming their own "bad luck".
It's laughable. I think that most think also that the 'comps' they get because they signed up for the casino 'card' is because the casino really wants them to have a room to sleep in and a meal to eat. It surely can't be because they want you to stay there (or come back) and lose whatever you might have won.
Oh well, I'm the bad guy because I just give advice, post the truth and try to point people in the right direction and don't post specific step-by-step instructions on exactly how I play. So be it.
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TurboGenius

HEY RG -

There are lots of amazing things on Homer's blackboard you know.
But I'm sure either - "no one cares" or "explain those formulas to me in every detail so that I don't have to look them up". lol :lol:
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The General

Turbo,

Your posts are over their heads and their delusions and denial will soon have them labeling you a troll, blasphemer, and mathboy.

  Math, logic and common sense elude them at every turn, and they "don't care about the odds or house edge".

Their minds are trapped in the box that is the gambler's fallacy, and escape for them is futile.

-The General
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

TurboGenius

Quote from: The General on Apr 16, 02:24 PM 2016
Turbo,

Your posts are over their heads and their delusions and denial will soon have them labeling you a troll, blasphemer, and mathboy.

  Math, logic and common sense elude them at every turn, and they "don't care about the odds or house edge".

Their minds are trapped in the box that is the gambler's fallacy, and escape for them is futile.

-The General

lol - that's ok, I'll keep throwing ropes into the hole - a few people will grab.
Others will shovel the hole deeper because that's the best way to get out of a hole isn't it ?
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Priyanka

Turbo thanks for the answers. One more question probably last. If playing based on past is random, how is present and future not random. I am assuming it is random as well and then irrespective of how one play their numbers, what plan one have, at the end of the day one is playing a random game right?
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