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lifetime progression

Started by Priyanka, Aug 22, 10:16 AM 2013

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eddy35

Quote from: Le_Chiffre on Sep 03, 03:52 PM 2013
Unfortunately I don't know anyone who can make a bot for this but I would be happy to chip in too if someone could do it.

The way I played for this test.

I played the 1st and 2nd dozen only the whole time.

1 chip on each

Play for 10 spins

If + 1 during the spins reset

If goes down then comes back up to break even...reset and start again

If it goes 10 and still down work out how much is needed to get to +1 profit and divide by 2....then put that on both dozens.

At this point write down the current bankroll level and treat it as a temporary high

You need 2 wins at the start to be +1. If you get it great, reset. If you get one win ignore it until you get the 2 or keep the temporary high you just marked down in mind then if it starts to go down and come back up to there reset that level.

THAT'S IT

It is maybe interesting not to divide the bet the first 2 levels of this system. The bet size is still low and you recover almost every time. I just played 200 spins and never had to play the 3rd level.
Statistically you will win 2 out 3 bets and you only need 1 win to recover.


Le_Chiffre

i thought i would record a quick video of how i was playing and unfortunately during the video i encountered the biggest drawdown i'd faced in over 3,000 spins which was unbelievable as i'd chosen to record at that point :) .  The max drawdown was over 500 units.  It recovered and I guess 500 isn't THAT much but i was putting down over 100 units on each dozen at that level and if a big losing streak had have occurred at that point it would have been into the 1,000s very quickly. 
Let me know if you want me to put up the video somewhere so you can see how it go so high.


eddy35

Quote from: Le_Chiffre on Sep 04, 07:00 AM 2013
i thought i would record a quick video of how i was playing and unfortunately during the video i encountered the biggest drawdown i'd faced in over 3,000 spins which was unbelievable as i'd chosen to record at that point :) .  The max drawdown was over 500 units.  It recovered and I guess 500 isn't THAT much but i was putting down over 100 units on each dozen at that level and if a big losing streak had have occurred at that point it would have been into the 1,000s very quickly. 
Let me know if you want me to put up the video somewhere so you can see how it go so high.

I am always interested !!  :thumbsup:

Le_Chiffre


Spin4Fun

OK, test with standard lifetime progression, playing RRB.

2 graphs, one with lifetime, the other with marti, same DB live recent nbrs, same RRB.

Dont aks me why RRB it was the only bet selection that did give with lifetime a nice graph
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Le_Chiffre

Quote from: Spin4Fun on Sep 04, 09:36 AM 2013
OK, test with standard lifetime progression, playing RRB.

2 graphs, one with lifetime, the other with marti, same DB live recent nbrs, same RRB.

don't aks me why RRB it was the only bet selection that did give with lifetime a nice graph

the lifetime progression is certainly a nice graph indeed.  i think EC is probably the best way to play this.  Double dozens is too dangerous on a losing streak.

Big EZ

Is there any specific reason you choose a 10 bet window to readjust the bet amount?
Have you tried either extending the window to say 20 bets or shortening it to say 6 bets?
Or does this all subjective depending upon the variance of your strike rate?
Quitting while your ahead is not the same as quitting

eddy35

Quote from: Big EZ on Sep 04, 05:22 PM 2013
Is there any specific reason you choose a 10 bet window to readjust the bet amount?
Have you tried either extending the window to say 20 bets or shortening it to say 6 bets?
Or does this all subjective depending upon the variance of your strike rate?

I was thinking the same, but we can only find out by testing.

Spin4Fun

Quote from: Big EZ on Sep 04, 05:22 PM 2013
Is there any specific reason you choose a 10 bet window to readjust the bet amount?
Have you tried either extending the window to say 20 bets or shortening it to say 6 bets?
Or does this all subjective depending upon the variance of your strike rate?

10 was the number of the orginal design.
In my bot i have made the option, i can vary the amounts of bets per level, the amount of + to a new level, and the reset value, default its on 1, but it can be more, i can also set the amount of levels, and the max amount 1 bet can be, which is the table limit.

So that are many parameters to be tested
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rayhd63

Hi Guys,

there are so many variations on the original betting method. Including my own (Block of 10)
Made a excel sheet which gives you the answers to all the methods spoken of.
Have a look at the graphs, intresting to see what each method does.

I think there is something to it, since there are so many options to add to the betting sequences.
Just like BIG EZ wrote, what if we use 5 , 6 , 15 blocks.

Have a great Day,
Ray

rayhd63

Here is the are the graphs for betting on red instead of black

Ray

eddy35

Quote from: rayhd63 on Sep 04, 06:18 PM 2013
Hi Guys,

there are so many variations on the original betting method. Including my own (Block of 10)
Made a excel sheet which gives you the answers to all the methods spoken of.
Have a look at the graphs, intresting to see what each method does.

I think there is something to it, since there are so many options to add to the betting sequences.
Just like BIG EZ wrote, what if we use 5 , 6 , 15 blocks.

Have a great Day,
Ray

How exactly do you play blocks of 10? 

Le_Chiffre

Quote from: Spin4Fun on Sep 04, 09:36 AM 2013
OK, test with standard lifetime progression, playing RRB.

2 graphs, one with lifetime, the other with marti, same DB live recent nbrs, same RRB.

don't aks me why RRB it was the only bet selection that did give with lifetime a nice graph

got any further with this? It seems to me the top graph is fantastic.  Could it be tested over 100,000 spins and could you let us know the exact way to play.

rayhd63

QuoteHow exactly do you play blocks of 10? 

....here is my tweak to the original, maybe useful to some of you.

I allways play for blocks of 10.
After the first block is over I look at the result.

1 - Should I have a new high or even, I stick with 1 unit for the next block of 10 spins.

2 - should I have a minus on my high , I add the add amount missing to my high +1
      And play those units till I have reached a new high, then reset to 1 unit till 1 reach the end of my block

I allways check the outcome of the 10 spin (end of block) an decide how many units I have to bet for a new high...

Hope that helps....

Ray


buju

@eddy35, thanks for your tips. could you please please share your excel file for us?

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