Let's find HG, yeah, for sure

[Turner]

I lost my car keys once when we were setting off for the airport on holiday.

I found them in my dressing gown pocket 30 mins later....... and all went well.

Yeah i know....its not as bad as losing the holy grail.

[TwoCatSam]

So, in 1,000 spins it won 25 units.

Not even going to think about a "dressing gown".....

Reminds me of the story of the kid in physics class.  Teacher ask him what electricity is.  He claims he knew, but forgot.  Teachers throws up hands in despair:  The only human on the planet who has every known what electricity is and he's forgotten.

Sam

[GLC]

Reminds me of the story of the kid in physics class.  Teacher ask him what electricity is.  He claims he knew, but forgot.  Teachers throws up hands in despair:  The only human on the planet who has every known what electricity is and he's forgotten.

Sam

                                                 

[Turner]

Not even going to think about a "dressing gown".....


I must stress....this is not me sporting this dressing gown


For recreational purposes only. Wear  at your  own risk..

[ati]

Ok, I know it sounds stupid, and I still know what the basic idea was, I just can't remember where did I bet exactly and how much at a certain level in the progression. The bet sizes and positions were changing constantly.
The starting bet was 5 cents, so it is actually 500 units profit. If I can do it again, I'll let you know. If you don't hear from me, it failed.

[GLC]

No, seriously.  If you remember it, please share it with us.

[atlantis]

Hi,

Here is my previous session but with GLC suggested progression applied.

[reveal=SAME SESSION WITH GLC PROGRESSION]
REAL MONEY SESSION (at SLC)

Progression Ladder
===============
Up 1 level after a loss. Down 1 level after a win.
Reduce to default when highest bank equalled or surpassed (marked with *)

EC              COL
==               ===
1                    1         (default)
2                    2
3                    3
4                    4
5                    5
6                    6
7                    7
etc..              etc...

Target = +3 or more.

=====================================
#        result    nextbet        bal+/-    progression
===================================== 
START      observe last 3 decisions    1-1
28b                                                   
3r
19r                 bet r+c2         +0           1-1     
23r     w+3      bet r+c2        +3*     - target = +3
=====================================
                                                            1-1
12r     w+0      bet r+c2        +0           
36r     w+0      bet r+c2        +0
23r     w+3      bet r+c2        +3*     - target = +3
======================================
                                                            1-1
34r     w+0       bet r+c2        +0           
1r       w+0      bet r+c2         +0
11b    w+1        bet r+c2       +1*
13b    L-2        bet b+c3        -1             2-2
10b    w+0       bet b+c3        -1
3r      w+2       bet b+c3        +1*           1-1     
2b      w+0       bet b+c3        +1*         
20b    w+0       bet b+c3        +1*
13b    w+0       bet b+c3        +1*
23r     L-2        bet b+c3        -1             2-2
0G     L-4        bet b+c3         -5             3-3
24b    w+9       bet b+c3        +4*       - target = +4
======================================                   
                                                             1-1
26b    w+0       bet b+c3        +0*
5r      L-2         bet b+c3        -2             2-2
22b    w+0       bet b+c3        -2
22b    w+0       bet b+c3        -2           
18r     w+2      bet b+c3         +0*           1-1
15b    w+3       bet b+c3        +3*        - target = +3
======================================     
                                                             1-1
35b    w+0       bet b+c3         +0*
20b    w+0       bet b+c3         +0*
23r     L-2        bet b+c3          -2            2-2
29b    w+0       bet b+c3          -2           
32r     L-4        bet r+c2           -6            3-3
36r     w+0       bet r+c2          -6
3r       w+0       bet r+c2          -6
9r       w+0       bet r+c2          -6
27r     w+0       bet r+c2          -6
21r     w+0       bet r+c2          -6         
3r       w+0       bet r+c2          -6
4b       L-2        bet r+c2          -12          4-4
5r       w+12       bet r+c2         +0*         1-1           
27r     w+0       bet r+c2           +0*
9r       w+0       bet r+c2           +0*
3r       w+0       bet r+c2           +0*
15b     L-2        bet r+c2           -2            2-2
30r     w+0       bet r+c2           -2
22b     L-4        bet b+c3         -6              3-3
15b     w+9      bet b+c3          +3*          -target = +3
=========================================
                                                               1-1
29b     w+0      bet b+c3           0*
24b     w+3      bet b+c3          +3*          - target = +3
=========================================
                                                              1-1                                                   
5r      L-2         bet b+c3         -2              2-2
0G     L-4         bet b+c3         -6              3-3
14r    L-6         bet r+c2          -12            4-4
26b    w+4       bet r+c2          -8
23r    w+12      bet r+c2         +4*            - target = +4
=========================================
                                                               1-1           
31b    L2         bet b+c3           -2              2-2
33b    w+6       bet b+c3         +4*           - target = +4
=========================================
                                                               1-1       
4b      w+0       bet b+c3          +0*       
14r     L-2        bet b+c3           -2             2-2
8b     w+0       bet b+c3            -2
9r      w+2       bet r+c2            +0            1-1     
8b     w+1       bet b+c3            +1*       
17b    w+0      bet b+c3            +1
0G     L-2        bet b+c3            -1              2-2
28b    w+0      bet b+c3             -1
34r     L-3       bet b+c3             -5             3-3
20b    w+0      bet b+c3             -5
31b    w+0      bet b+c3             -5
32r     L-6       bet b+c3             -11            4-4
0G      L-8        bet b+c3            -19           5-5
30r     w+5      bet r+c2             -14
13b     L-10       bet r+c2           -24           6-6
23r     w+18     bet r+c2             -6            5-5
6b      L-10       bet b+c3            -16          6-6
31b    w+0       bet b+c3            -16
29b    w+0       bet b+c3            -16
32r     L-12      bet b+c3             -28          7-7
24b    w+21      bet b+c3            -7            6-6
9r      w+6        bet r+c2             -1            5-5
12r    w+0        bet r+c2             -1         
32r    w+15      bet r+c2             +14*     - target = +14
=========================================
                                                               1-1
8b     w+1        bet r+c2          +1*
33b    L-2         bet b+c3          -1              2-2
30r    w+2        bet b+c3          +1*           1-1
28b    w+0       bet b+c3          +1*
12r    w+1        bet r+c2          +2*
24b    L-2         bet b+c3          +0             2-2
35b    w+0        bet b+c3          +0
3r       w+2       bet b+c3          +2*           1-1         
36r     w+1        bet r+c2          +3*        - target = +3
=========================================
                                                               1-1             
20b     w+1       bet r+c2         +1*            +1  stopped.

Total profit so far = +45.

NOTE:The 4 ZEROS snaffled up +18 points! as well as contributing to the higher level progressions...

[/reveal]       


A.

[atlantis]

Here are my 3 real money sessions this morning on SLC live autowheel (min bets):

[reveal]
Total Bank = £53.5
==============
          53.5*           1-1
L-2     53.3        up to 2-2
w+2    53.5*      down to 1-1
w+1    53.6*
w+3    53.9*      target = +4
=====================
          53.9*           1-1
L-2     53.7      up to 2-2
w+2    53.9*     down to 1-1
w+0
w+0
w+0
w+0
L-2    53.7        up to 2-2
L-4    53.3        up to 3-3
w+0
L-6    52.7        up to 4-4
w+12 53.9*     down to 1-1
w+3   54.2*      target = +3
=====================
         54.2*            1-1
w+1   54.3*
L-2    54.1        up to 2-2
w+0
L-4    53.7        up to 3-3
w+3   54.0     
L-6    53.4        up to 4-4
w+4   53.8   
w+0
w+0
w+0
L-8    53.0        up to 5-5
L-10  52.0        up to 6-6
w+0
w+6   52.6
w+18 54.4*      down to 1-1
w+0   54.4*
w+3   54.7*      target = +5
=====================
3 sessions (33 spins) = +12
=====================
[/reveal]

Thankfully no zero's   

A.

[ozon]

 Atlantis
I   had    bad  session .
  Dublinbet   flatbet      -28 units  in  a   hour  ,  i  think   optimal  stoploss  is   -10  units.

[atlantis]

Atlantis
I   had    bad  session .
  Dublinbet   flatbet      -28 units  in  a   hour  ,  i  think   optimal  stoploss  is   -10  units.

Hi Ozon,

Sorry to hear. If you ARE level flatbetting then -10 seems sensible stop point. It's not something that could not be recovered.
I'm happy to report I've won 3 more sessions and gained +9units fairly quickly using the progression ladder and no high progressions either - and this is my preferred way of real play as of now! As I said I'm playing for LOW units only.
Do you still have the numbers from your session? If so maybe you can try to see what would have happened if using the progressive tactics?
A.

[Tomla021]

I thing GLC turned me on to predominance in the last 3--Im testing something on that w baccarat--dont want to ruin this thread but it seems promising

[ozon]

No  , I   didnt   write   the  numbers .I  had   alot  fast ,  very   good  sessions  with  this   strategy  ,always   + 3  target  profit.
I   dont  know that  any  progression   help  with  that  session.     Very   fast   -18  ,  slow   recovery   to   -11  ,  and  drop to -28.
Safe   way   is   flat  bet   and   stoploss   -10  , maybe   in  longer   run  it  be profitable.

[atlantis]

No  , I   didn't   write   the  numbers .I  had   a lot  fast ,  very   good  sessions  with  this   strategy  ,always   + 3  target  profit.
I   don't  know that  any  progression   help  with  that  session.     Very   fast   -18  ,  slow   recovery   to   -11  ,  and  drop to -28.
Safe   way   is   flat  bet   and   stoploss   -10  , maybe   in  longer   run  it  be profitable.

OK. Thanks ozon. I agree; surely it is safer with flatbet.

A.

[atlantis]

I thing GLC turned me on to predominance in the last 3--I'm testing something on that w baccarat--don't want to ruin this thread but it seems promising

Hi Tomla,
Hope it goes well. Please let us know if it works. 
A.

[GLC]

Food for thought.

Since I have a few of my favorite roulette brothers on this topic, I want to run a concept by you.  Here's why we should look twice at betting double dozens or 5 lines or 11 streets or even 35 straight up numbers.

Let's analyze the results when we have each number hit one time before any number repeats.

Say we bet one unit on Red each spin.
18 times Red will win and we win +18 units.
18 times Black will hit and we lose -18 units.
1 time zero will hit and we lose -1 unit.
A net loss of -1 unit.
That's not too bad.

Let's say we bet one unit on the 1st dozen each spin.
12 times we win 2 units for +24 units.
24 times we lose 1 unit for -24 units.
1 time zero hits and we lose 1 unit.
A net loss of -1 unit.
That's not too bad either.

Let's say we bet 1 unit on 2 dozens each spin.
24 times we will win 1 unit for +24 units.
12 times we will lose 2 units for -24 units.
1 time zero hits and we lose 2 units.
A net loss of -2 units.
Oops!  That's not quite as good as the above bets.

Let's say we bet 1 unit on 5 lines each spin.
30 times we will win 1 unit for +30 units.
6 time we will lose 5 units for -30 units.
1 time zero hits and we lose 5 units.
A net loss of -5 units.
What the ??  That's not looking good at all!

The final thought.
Let's say we bet 1 unit on 35 numbers each spin.
35 times we will win 1 unit for +35 units.
1 time we will lose 35 units for -35 units.
1 time zero will hit and we will lose -35 units.


Am I confused, or is it a really bad bet to bet multiple dozens, lines, streets, splits or straight up numbers?

Also, please note that it's the same disadvantage (a loss of 1 unit) to bet a single even chance or a single dozen or a single line or a single street, etc... 

Warrior's right!  Double dozens is a losing bet!!


George

P.S.  Being amongst the elderly, I could be confused.