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ddarko

Quote from: teo on Sep 12, 06:09 AM 2013
I never lose on purpose....but I can come to the same casino 3 nights in the row without
topping a chip.....does this tell you something...there are trillions things one can observe
there if watching closely.

Thanks for your reply Teo  :thumbsup:

I have to ask, what does "topping a chip" mean pls ? Is it betting a chip ?

Thank you.

O0

teo

 And he will eat free lunch at the casino buffet.
[/quote]

My dear Iggiv,

  Hardly you can get free food anywhere any more/earlier yes/.....thousands Asian guys arround,
they would simply come every day/few play,many pretending playing slots/and they just had a good meal every working day.

teo

Quote from: ddarko on Sep 12, 10:06 AM 2013
Thanks for your reply Teo  :thumbsup:

I have to ask, what does "topping a chip" mean please ? Is it betting a chip ?

Thank you.

O0

Yes

warrior

An even money bet is your greatest advantage to winning at roulette,with enprison or getting half on the zero , its the most basic of all bets but the safest way of not losing your money,if you can figure out the movement of the even money you can make a good profit on a daily basis,me included I used to jump from system to system,but I stopped doing that ,and really focused on the basics and I always come out ahead ,flat betting is the best you will do ,all progression are doomed the more complicated one where I m doing all this maths is even worst,so to all beginners and intermediates ,don't waste your time ,find a bet ,tip ,on even money and you will  always beat this game ,forget betting inside looks great the 35 /1 payout but there is a great price you pay for that ,more people have gone broke doing this then any other bet on the felt,and forget the long run as you will see in this forum the term being used most of the time,long run equals loss, the longer you play the more you lose.your testing should be no more then a 1500 placed bets that's 5000 spins ,you know how long that takes in a real casino ,a very long time,you will play 100 spins that takes 3 hrs. On a busy night ,the bigger your base bet the more money you will make,with a bet that wins flat bet ,but there is one progression I like with my tweak that keeps very close to flat and that's  priayankas idea life long progression ,but I don't need it for my bet wins just flat,so why I write all this because   the more complicated you make your bets the worst it is ,keep it really basic and you will come out ahead,and stop all the hedging of bets it's silly and  won't work all bets are created equal the payout is the same.happy hunting for that EVEN MONEY BET.Warrior.

Chrisbis

Good post Warrior.

Just before he departed, GreatGrampa/Priyanka (yes, they were one and the same)
told me via a PM that the True Holly G is contained in that "Lifetime Progression" of his....
there is something about it for sure.

Nice post tho as I say.
Well done.
I hope lots of guests and newbies get to read it first!
Should be a Stick admin.! :thumbsup:
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

teo

Quote from: warrior on Sep 14, 09:11 AM 2013
An even money bet is your greatest advantage to winning at roulette,with enprison or getting half on the zero , its the most basic of all bets but the safest way of not losing your money,if you can figure out the movement of the even money you can make a good profit on a daily basis,me included I used to jump from system to system,but I stopped doing that ,and really focused on the basics and I always come out ahead ,flat betting is the best you will do ,all progression are doomed the more complicated one where I m doing all this maths is even worst,so to all beginners and intermediates ,don't waste your time ,find a bet ,tip ,on even money and you will  always beat this game ,forget betting inside looks great the 35 /1 payout but there is a great price you pay for that ,more people have gone broke doing this then any other bet on the felt,and forget the long run as you will see in this forum the term being used most of the time,long run equals loss, the longer you play the more you lose.your testing should be no more then a 1500 placed bets that's 5000 spins ,you know how long that takes in a real casino ,a very long time,you will play 100 spins that takes 3 hrs. On a busy night ,the bigger your base bet the more money you will make,with a bet that wins flat bet ,but there is one progression I like with my tweak that keeps very close to flat and that's  priayankas idea life long progression ,but I don't need it for my bet wins just flat,so why I write all this because   the more complicated you make your bets the worst it is ,keep it really basic and you will come out ahead,and stop all the hedging of bets it's silly and  won't work all bets are created equal the payout is the same.happy hunting for that EVEN MONEY BET.Warrior.

--It is about time somebody agree with me,especially EP and LP rules...I know you will say
what about all the progress methods I post........those are only ideas for those hungry of holy grail......I never ever said or claim it is a holy grail.....but could be a long run winner...if you find a patience.Yes Warrior it is the only way.The only problem is that I must go to Slovenia or Austria to play such tables....

Chris555p

I totally agree with u Warrior, Chrisbis and Teo ECs bets are the best.  In additon to Priyanka's life long progression the only progression that
gives me good results as well is Bread winner's progression, it is very similar to Life long progression.

Chrisbis

Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

vundarosa

Quote from: warrior on Sep 14, 09:11 AM 2013
An even money bet is your greatest advantage to winning at roulette,with enprison or getting half on the zero , its the most basic of all bets but the safest way of not losing your money,if you can figure out the movement of the even money you can make a good profit on a daily basis,me included I used to jump from system to system,but I stopped doing that ,and really focused on the basics and I always come out ahead ,flat betting is the best you will do ,all progression are doomed the more complicated one where I m doing all this maths is even worst,so to all beginners and intermediates ,don't waste your time ,find a bet ,tip ,on even money and you will  always beat this game ,forget betting inside looks great the 35 /1 payout but there is a great price you pay for that ,more people have gone broke doing this then any other bet on the felt,and forget the long run as you will see in this forum the term being used most of the time,long run equals loss, the longer you play the more you lose.your testing should be no more then a 1500 placed bets that's 5000 spins ,you know how long that takes in a real casino ,a very long time,you will play 100 spins that takes 3 hrs. On a busy night ,the bigger your base bet the more money you will make,with a bet that wins flat bet ,but there is one progression I like with my tweak that keeps very close to flat and that's  priayankas idea life long progression ,but I don't need it for my bet wins just flat,so why I write all this because   the more complicated you make your bets the worst it is ,keep it really basic and you will come out ahead,and stop all the hedging of bets it's silly and  won't work all bets are created equal the payout is the same.happy hunting for that EVEN MONEY BET.Warrior.

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full agreement on ec flat bet subject...i would add, if one is looking to build a BR, one should find a flat bet method and attempt to win half of section BR...i know many say 10-20% is safe but if flat betting, 50% should be possible.

One issue that makes us losers in the long run is the win goal/ stop loss ratio. Some win goals are too low in comparison to the stop loss...so one might win for 30+ games and lose two, and this two losses would put one in the hole. If win target is 5u and stop loss 10u,  losses, even if more frequent will be minor set backs if one has a flat bet method with low win ratio of say 7/3...

vundarosa

Tomla021

I talked to Pryanka/grandpa behind the scenes ? Agreement was in the groups for long play , but I would rise it in way slower method! So there was agreement in the deal:)
"No Whining, just Winning"

Turner

I must admiit...ive not looked at an inside bet idea for a while now. Ive even turned lines into ecs to bet them. Im fascinated with looking at dozens and columns as ec' s right now.  still tinkering with that idea but it seems viable.

atlantis

Quote from: Turner on Oct 02, 09:10 AM 2013
I must admiit...I've not looked at an inside bet idea for a while now. I've even turned lines into ecs to bet them. I'm fascinated with looking at dozens and columns as ec' s right now.  still tinkering with that idea but it seems viable.

Hi Turner,
Same here. I now am beginning to think I've found a consistent winning bet; one that I can play quite easily. It was staring me in the face all this time - but I really think could be the answer.
Atlantis.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Proofreaders2000

Hey guys how about betting the last number and a neighbor on each side each spin?

Look at this:

Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Wednesday, October 2, 2013 @ 4:40pm CDT USA

...34 (newest spin-value)-trigger

Bet 15,34,22:    1.) 34(win)+165

Bet 15,34,22:    2.) 35(x)-15

Bet 14,35,23:    3.) 32(x)-15

Bet 17,32,20:    4.) 20(win)+165

Bet 32,20,17:    5.) 13(x)-15

Bet 1,13,36:      6.) 27(x)-15

Bet 00,27,10:    7.) 26(x)-15

Bet 9,26,30:      8.) 6(x)-15

Bet 21,6,18:      9.) 5(x)-15

Bet 22,5,17:     10.) 9(x)-15

Bet 26,9,28:     11.) 36(x)-15

Bet 13,36,24:   12.) 26(x)-15

Bet 30,26,9:     13.) 35(x)-15

Bet 14,35,23:   14.) 24(x)-15

Bet 36,24,3:     15.) 36(win)+165
-------------------------------------------------------
+315

atlantis

Hi Proof,

I also noticed if we just back the DOZENS that the number and the 2 neighbours fall in (except where 3 doz are indicated in which case a no bet) you get this:

last number = 34

Bet 15,34,22:    1.) 34(win) +1

Bet 15,34,22:    2.) 35(win) +1

Bet 14,35,23:    3.) 32(win) +1

Bet 17,32,20:    4.) 20(win) +1

Bet 32,20,17:    5.) 13(win) +1

Bet 1,13,36:      6.) 27(no bet)

Bet 00,27,10:    7.) 26(win) +1

Bet 9,26,30:      8.) 6(win) +1

Bet 21,6,18:      9.) 5(win) +1

Bet 22,5,17:     10.) 9(win) +1

Bet 26,9,28:     11.) 36(win) +1

Bet 13,36,24:   12.) 26(win) +1

Bet 30,26,9:     13.) 35(win) +1

Bet 14,35,23:   14.) 24(win)  +1

Bet 36,24,3:     15.) 36(no bet)

+13

:)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

agesta

Quote from: atlantis on Oct 03, 04:04 AM 2013
Hi Proof,

I also noticed if we just back the DOZENS that the number and the 2 neighbours fall in (except where 3 doz are indicated in which case a no bet) you get this:

last number = 34

Bet 15,34,22:    1.) 34(win) +1

Bet 15,34,22:    2.) 35(win) +1

Hi!
I have tryed this using ds
like this
nr 16 hits play ds 3,4 and 6
nr 15 hits play ds 3 and 5
Good hitrate so far.
agesta

Bet 14,35,23:    3.) 32(win) +1

Bet 17,32,20:    4.) 20(win) +1

Bet 32,20,17:    5.) 13(win) +1

Bet 1,13,36:      6.) 27(no bet)

Bet 00,27,10:    7.) 26(win) +1

Bet 9,26,30:      8.) 6(win) +1

Bet 21,6,18:      9.) 5(win) +1

Bet 22,5,17:     10.) 9(win) +1

Bet 26,9,28:     11.) 36(win) +1

Bet 13,36,24:   12.) 26(win) +1

Bet 30,26,9:     13.) 35(win) +1

Bet 14,35,23:   14.) 24(win)  +1

Bet 36,24,3:     15.) 36(no bet)

+13

:)

A.

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