A Money Management Challenge

[Kav]

GARNabby,
I'm sorry you can't get anything from my post, but it is your problem. Read elsewhere.

[GARNabby]

GARNabby,
I'm sorry you can't get anything from my post, but it is your problem. Read elsewhere.

The reason that you guys never get any real help.

[Tomla021]

garnabby---i play a ton and do well,,, i mix stuff that works together on roulette -and i have had trying times but I move it around--but so far so good.... on baccarat I play slower versions. You criticize a lot but don't really say much?

[weddings]

28   B      -1
20   B      -3
24   B      -5
1   R      -3
33   B      -5
20   B      -7
19   R      -5
3   R      -3
1   R      -1
26   B      -3
11   B      -5
31   B      -7
23   R      -5
11   B      -7
9   R      -5
20   B      -7
6   B      -9
35   B      -11
27   R      -9
8   B      -11
33   B      -13
35   B      -15
29   B      -17
31   B      -19
0   0      -21
23   R      -19
10   B      -21
6   B      -23
34   R      -21
14   R      -19
25   R      -17
11   B      -19
28   B      -21
6   B      -23
8   B      -26
6   B      -29
35   B      -32
9   R      -29
23   R      -26
30   R      -23
0   0      -26
25   R      -23
4   B      -26
9   R      -23
2   B      -26
6   B      -29
9   R      -26
16   R      -23
5   R      -20
2   B      -23
12   R      -20
18   R      -17
4   B      -20
33   B      -23
19   R      -20
18   R      -17
5   R      -14
34   R      -11
10   B      -14
31   B      -17
12   R      -13
12   R      -10
28   B      -13
7   R      -9
15   B      -12
21   R      -8
26   B      -11
28   B      -15
31   B      -20
18   R      -14
13   B      -20
6   B      -28
12   R      -17
26   B      -27
2   B      -42
12   R      -20
2   B      -41
24   B      -83
28   B      -167
10   B      -335
35   B      -671
26   B      -1343
1   R   1   

[weddings]

How about this progression:

B=(LU/(33-WS)) +1  (we always round up)

B=bet in units
LU= Lost units so far
WS= Won spins so fa

The idea behind this progression is that we just need to recuperate our losses with 33 wins. (or the wins we have left from the 33 initial wins)

Example:

1rst bet = 1unit Loss
2nd bet = 1/33 +1 = 2 (we always round up) Loss
3rd bet = 3/33 +1 = 2 Loss
4th bet = 5/33 +1 =2
etc.
Let's say after 40 spins we are down 100 units and we have won 10 spins.
Next bet would be:
100/(33-10) +1= 100/23 +1 = 6 units
.....
Now let's say after 70 spins we are down 280 units and we have won 20 spins so far
Next bet would be:
280/(33-20) +1 = 280/13 +1 = 23 units
... etc.
Of course from then on, as we get some wins and the denominator decreases, the bets will increase rapidly. Still, I believe we won't reach the 500 units limit.

Gentlemen , I think I solved the problem. 

Nick, could you program this?

:.Roulette30.com

So you playing with 20,000 bankroll for 1 unit bets?

[Kav]

So you playing with 20,000 bankroll for 1 unit bets?

Weddings,
The whole issue with roulette is how to win that F@@ing 1 unit. How to be in profit even for 1 unit. Yes.
And this method never puts you in the negative for 20K units.

The sequence you posted is a very special one, where  the first 32 hits have appeared, and there is left only 1 Red, so every loss doubles up like Martingale. In such a situation you can add one or two wins in the denominator and it becomes 2 or 3 instead of 1 and the bets increase much more slowly. And you didn't use my progression anyway!

[weddings]

I used the one nick posted. Is that wrong?

[Skakus]

Attached is my funky d'alembert progression for the ECs as played for Kav's Lw registry.

Ok, it busted out of the 500 max bet on one major occasion after 10 L's in a row, but in principal it did finish with profit so might be worth further study.

Cheers.

[weddings]

Weddings,
The whole issue with roulette is how to win that F@@ing 1 unit. How to be in profit even for 1 unit. Yes.
And this method never puts you in the negative for 20K units.

The sequence you posted is a very special one, where  the first 32 hits have appeared, and there is left only 1 Red, so every loss doubles up like Martingale. In such a situation you can add one or two wins in the denominator and it becomes 2 or 3 instead of 1 and the bets increase much more slowly. And you didn't use my progression anyway!

Can you post an example with my numbers?

Lets say after 32 wins what would be your bets?

[Kav]

Weddings,
Read the first two post on Page 3 of this thread.

[weddings]

B   1   -1
B   2   -3
0   2   -5
0   2   -7
R   2   -5
B   2   -7
B   2   -9
R   2   -7
B   2   -9
B   2   -11
B   2   -13
R   2   -11
B   2   -13
B   2   -15
R   2   -13
B   2   -15
R   2   -13
B   2   -15
R   2   -13
B   2   -15
R   2   -13
B   2   -15
R   2   -13
B   2   -15
R   2   -13
R   2   -11
B   2   -13
B   2   -15
B   2   -17
R   2   -15
B   2   -17
R   2   -15
R   2   -13
R   2   -11
B   2   -13
B   2   -15
B   2   -17
B   2   -19
B   2   -21
R   2   -19
R   2   -17
R   2   -15
R   2   -13
B   2   -15
B   2   -17
R   2   -15
R   2   -13
R   2   -11
R   2   -9
B   2   -11
B   2   -13
R   2   -11
B   2   -13
R   2   -11
B   2   -13
R   2   -11
R   2   -9
R   2   -7
B   2   -9
B   2   -11
R   2   -9
R   2   -7
B   2   -9
B   3   -12
B   3   -15
B   3   -18
B   3   -21
R   4   -17
R   4   -13
B   5   -18
R   5   -13
B   8   -21
B   9   -30
R   10   -20
Is this correct?

How do you continue 131/(33-33)+1?

[Kav]

Hello weddings,

Sorry, this is not correct.
For example the last spin you posted would be

141/(33-32) +1 =141 +1 142
But there are mistakes all along.
The equation is:

Bet = LostUnits/(33-WonSpins) +1

After we have won 32 spins we take a look at our situation and decide how to go from there, in order to keep bets manageable.

[weddings]

Did you test nick's latest sheet? That is the tracker for your post on page 3.

[Kav]

Did you test nick's latest sheet? That is the tracker for your post on page 3.

Yep, I tested it. It is REALLY good. (btw, thanks Nick!)
The only problem I notice is the case the 32 hits have appeared and you wait for that last hit, and every loss is added straight to the equation. That's why I believe in case we have encountered the 32 hits special care should be taken.

[weddings]

So I encountered a bet more than 500 units perhaps the progression needs to be tweaked further?