Full TrioPlay Tames The Mongoose!

[Tomla021]

the more I fool around with this,  the more I like it----

[RouletteGhost]

How do you play trio mongoose

[GLC]

At the bottom of this page is a link to "The Conservative Mongoose".  I think it adds a degree of safety to the Full TrioPlay Tames the Mongoose.

The best way to learn how to play is to read this topic and all topics related to it.

It's been explained to death.

BTW, you have to at least have a master's degree in gambling to be able to win with this thing.  It's not for the novice.

[Chris555p]

I totally agree with GLC for Novice there is always marty.....

[Tomla021]

Lets see if this explains, or not.
1.  you need to win a parlay ( WW) , 2. a marty  (1,2) LW or W  , 3. and a sliding marty ( 1 1 2 ) A W clears you out and you have completed the making of 5 units  a L you bet a 1 again on this portion,a LL you bet 2 if you win you start 3 all over LLL and you have lost this attempt at making 5 units so a WWLWLLWW clears out the 5 unit win , a WWWW also clears it etc,,,,,

[GLC]

Lets see if this explains, or not.
1.  you need to win a parlay ( WW) , 2. a marty  (1,2) LW or W  , 3. and a sliding marty ( 1 1 2 ) A W clears you out and you have completed the making of 5 units  a L you bet a 1 again on this portion,a LL you bet 2 if you win you start 3 all over LLL and you have lost this attempt at making 5 units so a WWLWLLWW clears out the 5 unit win , a WWWW also clears it etc,,,,,

I don't see why you don't just cut to the chase with as few words as possible.

It only takes me 1,000 words to say that.

GLC

[Tomla021]

Its really a hard thing to understand until you get it--lol..... Now its the betting amounts that have to be considered as you have opened the door on that. And that might depend on the way your bets have tested or played

[GLC]

If the mongoose is what's giving people trouble, you can use any bet method to replace the mongoose.  A good one is a 2 step parlay.  We start with a 1 unit bet.  If we win it, we let-it-ride for the next spin.  That means we net 3 units on a double win.  This means we let 3 units represent a single unit in our Full TrioPlay bet scheme.

Okay Tom.  I tried to keep it as short as possible.  Maybe I didn't do such a good job.

If not it's because I'm not bi-lingual.  By only speaking one language, I've never had to try to keep it concise. 

When I was trying to learn Russian and Bulgarian you can bet I was trying to keep it simple.

Cheers,
GLC

[TwoCatSam]

and a sliding marty ( 1 1 2 )

Isn't that just a "push"?  You win two to replace the two you lost on the 1st two bets.

Where am I going wrong?

Sam

[Tomla021]

112W is a push and you restart that third section a 11W is a push also--at some point you need the first W

[TwoCatSam]

Thanks

[Pnoman]

I've had better luck dropping stage 2 (Marty) and playing stage 1 & 3 only. If you play stage 1 and win, you're up 3 units...play stage 2 and win, you're up 4 units...if you're betting $25 units, why would you risk $100 profit to gain $25 more playing stage 3?

I bet stage 1. If I win, I am up 3 units and skip Marty and bet stage 3. If I lose, I'm still up 2 and can bet 1 unit again hoping to win. If I win I am back to up 3. That gives me a chance to start stage 3 again. If I win, I'm up 4 units and start over. If I lose 2 in a row, I am still up 1 unit, and start over. I guess that makes stage 3 a flat bet in this case.

If I had lost 2 in a row playing stage 2, I'd be to break even instead of up 1. I just make the Trio sequence 1111-2222-3333, etc instead of 11111-22222-33333...


I've been experimenting with putting the STAR pre-betting sequence in front of the stage 1 & 3 progression. It seems to keep me at break even more than without. The thing I don't like about the STAR pre-progression is that during winning streaks, it keeps you betting and winning low. Once a losing streak comes along, it makes you start betting big.

I have no software to test this a million times, so I use an iPad app. Who knows how accurate an app is compared to the real thing. If anyone can test using just 1 & 3 with and without pre-progression, I'd love to see the results.

Also, having a goal in mind is helpful. If I'm betting $25 a unit, winning $200 or more happens more often than not. It's knowing when to cash in that's the hardest part of all.

[Tomla021]

Pnoman and GLC
Funny I was thinking of  just using stage 1,and 2 but on reflection 1 and 3 look pretty good as a lighter alternative---I will test something with it tonight
One way or another this whole thing could be combined to make a pretty great progression that doesn't bite too hard
One issue is that losing stage 3 you will be -1 more unit

[Pnoman]

Yeah, let me know what your tests reveal. It's fun crunching the numbers and mixing the systems. I'd love to keep mixing them and see what we all get. There is something here for sure. It'll probably boil down to GLC's original mongoose/trio post being the best after all. If anything, it's just fun to tweak.

[Pnoman]

Tomla,

The original Mongoose has a win at stage 1 up 3 units...a win at stage 2 up 4 units. That gives you the option of doing stage 3 as 1-1-2 or 1-1-3. If you lose all 3 in a row doing 1-1-3, you are -1 unit. If you do stage 3 as 1-1-2 and lose all 3, you are at break even. I'd never do 1-1-3 if doing all 3 stages.

If there was a casino game that said "Bet $100. If you win, you win $25, if you lose, you lose $125." Nobody would ever play that game...that's what stage 3 at 1-1-3 is.

So, if you play all 3 stages of Mongoose, play stage 3 as 1-1-2. In the worst case, you are back to even money if you lose stage 3.

As for playing just stages 1 & 3, if you win stage 1, you are up 3. Win stage 3 and you're up 4...then start over. If you lose the first unit bet of stage 3, you're still up 2 units. Bet 1 more unit hoping to cancel the first loss, leaving you up 3 again and you can start stage 3 again hoping for a win on bet 1, leaving you up 4 to start over.

If you lose the first and second bet on stage 3, you are up 1 unit. Don't chase your losses anymore, just take your 1 unit profit and start over again at stage 1. At least you aren't down or even, you are up 1 and essentially the house is paying for your first bet on stage 1.

Add this to the trio money management/progression and it's really a beautiful thing...as long as you aren't playing with rent money, you should be happy with the results.