Why ROULETTE? Simple Question for the Community

[beretta28]

To make the conclusion that Roulette Master system is ridicolous is very simple.
If you have 100 single spins(+1),you have also 50 two in a row(-3) and 25 three in a row(+1).
Even a child can calculute the loss of this approach.
I think he was joking,just to stimulate the discussion and he succeeded......

[probasah]

To make the conclusion that Roulette Master system is ridicolous is very simple.
If you have 100 single spins(+1),you have also 50 two in a row(-3) and 25 three in a row(+1).
Even a child can calculute the loss of this approach.
I think he was joking,just to stimulate the discussion and he succeeded......

Hi beretta28!

Yes, i think it may have been a joke, and i felt for it:))
In any way, not a problem, it made me exercise my mind a little... mind is like a muscle you know:) you have to exercise it:)
I am taking a look at your system right now, from the money management - 7 spins.

Regards,
Alex

[RouletteMaster]

Yes, i think it may have been a joke, and i felt for it:))
In any way, not a problem, it made me exercise my mind a little... mind is like a muscle you know:) you have to exercise it:)
I am taking a look at your system right now, from the money management - 7 spins.

Alex, it was. All it needed was a simple maths rather than a complex excel sheet to prove it. I thought someone will come screaming at me at the start, which beretta rightly did.

100 singles, will lead to 50 doubles and 50 3 or more series.  so it is essentially 100*1-50*3+25*1 = -25units. And now we didn't talk about zero. Put them into the mix and we go further south. the patterns that are forming are just how our mind can read it. at the end of the day the next spin can be either black or red or zero.

there are two things that I wanted to get across. one is there is no mechanical way to beat roulette. if there is someone who is saying there is, then they are simply lying or scamming.

two, the idea I shared is very simple, as I have always been telling the idea to beat the roulette need not be complex. if you want to bet continously and see how the idea works it will just follow the maths, which i have calculated above. you can just keep your betselection as betting on black only and still win the roulette game. you will get cycles. you will get cycles when your method works and cycles when it doesn't work. one can only beat that cycle with experience. this is random at its best. this cycle happens not only in roulette, it happens any game or any betting. this is why I admire people like George, sam, flat, ken, they have all helped me understand that this can be beaten and I have posted 10 day history twice as well to show that it is possible.

Now Sam, I didn't mean disrespect. I do play this method and I do play this quite often. But I play this a bit intuitively and not mechanically.  My intuition might fail me but more often than not, it works through successfully. Basically I look at the marquee to see whether am getting a table that is chopping or streaking. when I see that there are streaks, I go ahead and use this method. when I see that the table is chopping then also I go ahead and use this. the enemy of this method is doubles. when I continuously get series of two one after the other this will fail. me knowing the conditions under which it fails is what leads to me being able to practice successfully. 

[probasah]

Alex, it was. All it needed was a simple maths rather than a complex excel sheet to prove it. I thought someone will come screaming at me at the start, which beretta rightly did.

100 singles, will lead to 50 doubles and 50 3 or more series.  so it is essentially 100*1-50*3+25*1 = -25units. And now we didn't talk about zero. Put them into the mix and we go further south. the patterns that are forming are just how our mind can read it. at the end of the day the next spin can be either black or red or zero.

there are two things that I wanted to get across. one is there is no mechanical way to beat roulette. if there is someone who is saying there is, then they are simply lying or scamming.

two, the idea I shared is very simple, as I have always been telling the idea to beat the roulette need not be complex. if you want to bet continously and see how the idea works it will just follow the maths, which i have calculated above. you can just keep your betselection as betting on black only and still win the roulette game. you will get cycles. you will get cycles when your method works and cycles when it doesn't work. one can only beat that cycle with experience. this is random at its best. this cycle happens not only in roulette, it happens any game or any betting. this is why I admire people like George, sam, flat, ken, they have all helped me understand that this can be beaten and I have posted 10 day history twice as well to show that it is possible.

Now Sam, I didn't mean disrespect. I do play this method and I do play this quite often. But I play this a bit intuitively and not mechanically.  My intuition might fail me but more often than not, it works through successfully. Basically I look at the marquee to see whether am getting a table that is chopping or streaking. when I see that there are streaks, I go ahead and use this method. when I see that the table is chopping then also I go ahead and use this. the enemy of this method is doubles. when I continuously get series of two one after the other this will fail. me knowing the conditions under which it fails is what leads to me being able to practice successfully.

) Nice one, RouletteMaster

Its so good to have a good laugh from time to time. Please excuse my lack of math, LoL, I'm good in proving methods FAIL

CHeers, no offense taken:)
Alex

[probasah]

Guys, can i ask you a question?  Why do
you choose Roulette if all methods fail?-Probash

Roulette can be very lucrative (if you're the casino.)

For me it's like the Mount Everest challenge.  (Because it's there...)
Secondly the 'Build a Better Mousetrap' belief that fame and fortune lie on the other side of the Grail I'm about to stumble upon.  (Even if I don't) heh

Hi proof!
So its because it`s a challenge? But what if the challenge is an impossible one?
I wish that money would not be an issue for every person living on this planet. How is that for a dream?

Cheers,
Alex:)

[warrior]

Hi proof!
So its because it`s a challenge? But what if the challenge is an impossible one?
I wish that money would not be an issue for every person living on this planet. How is that for a dream?

Cheers,
Alex:)
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Now that's the best thing I ever heard on tis forum.

[TwoCatSam]

Maslow's Pyramid

(Probably spelled it wrong.)

John Lennon:  Imagine no possessions.....

(At the time John wrote that, he occupied 6 floors in the Dakota hotel in NYC.)

Sam

[iggiv]

There are two games where you actually can have any option you can use. Craps and roulette. In craps you can even influence the game by your own hand. Now roulette -- there are no bad and no good cases there, there are always some numbers being spun. If you bet once you don't have to continue. You can always quit. You can chose what you want. Nobody will tell you -- hey, you are not allowed to bet those numbers!

But for example in black jack it is a very different story. If you are screwed up with having bad cards nothing will help you if a dealer has better ones. You have no choice. And you can't say: oh, i don't want to continue, give me back my money, cards which i have are not good. You already placed your bet, you are screwed up.

In roulette you don't have to place a bet if u think that previous spins are not good for ya...


I am pretty sure roulette can be deciphered just as Enigma was  during a war. Тhat's my personal view of it.
One thing we know for sure already: stiff patterns fail in roulette. Also we know that if u keep playing for long time u r gonna lose big no matter what. All you have to do is just find a criteria by which you can define different patterns you will use each time when you bet. And keep sessions short and quick.

[Skakus]

I have nothing to add.

I just wanted to see my avatar directly below iggiv's avatar as I think we look very much alike.

My hair is a bit longer, but other than that... 

[probasah]

I am pretty sure roulette can be deciphered just as Enigma was  during a war. Тhat's my personal view of it.
One thing we know for sure already: stiff patterns fail in roulette. Also we know that if u keep playing for long time u r gonna lose big no matter what. All you have to do is just find a criteria by which you can define different patterns you will use each time when you bet. And keep sessions short and quick.

Hi iggiv!
Thank you for your reply.

I was thinking about that as well. Maybe ALTERNATIVE bets, is indeed the solution, but i think that is just wishful thinking. One thing is for sure, the solution for Roulette, the SOLUTION against Random, would be mind blowing. Think of all of the application we could use that, in Engineering, advanced science, medicine.
In financial markets (stock markets).
In every aspect of our lives.
Its not about Roulette, its about finding a solution for an impossible question.
If you beat Roulette, you beat Math.
You can use it to improve the peoples standard of living, having better agriculture production, and so on...

Maybe that's why it motivates people to follow this road, at least some of us.

If roulette will be deciphered one day, casinos would die. Away. All those rich bigots that exploit the greed of the people, would go bankrupt. I would like to see that coming, as they had destroyed the lives of so many people. Just like the banks or the medicine/war production Corporations, that enslaved all of the world, with media and consumist (comunist) propaganda.

Cheers,
Alex

[probasah]

I have nothing to add.

I just wanted to see my avatar directly below iggiv's avatar as I think we look very much alike.

My hair is a bit longer, but other than that... 

Hey skakus!

Nice avatar. Is that the product of having 3 jobs for paying: rent/loans/car insurance/medical insurance/kids education/food/electricity/water/clothes etc on the average person on planet world.
Its incredible the degree of enslavement we had achieved: you have the exact money to survive in order to pay taxes and consume the products that harm your body(medicines), go to wars you dont need because there are other people that produce guns, the rat race we all know.

All that for 1% of the world, that control the rest of us, 99%.

Great world of zombies we live in:)

Cheers,
Alex

[Skakus]

Suddenly I have a low mood. I'm feeling heavily depressed... not sure why??? 

[ugly bob]

I have nothing to add.

I just wanted to see my avatar directly below iggiv's avatar as I think we look very much alike.

My hair is a bit longer, but other than that... 

I must admit that there is an uncanny resemblance!

I wish I was as handsome as you Skakus.

Hey....I was reading something last night called the 'Pareto Principle'

link:://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

I think we can apply this 80/20 rule to roulette as well.

There are times when you could be playing double dozens with a progression and get wiped out because the casino is enjoying it's 80/20 moment. There are other times that you could be playing 4 numbers and hitting every other spin.

Food for thought!