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A very clever and extreme method - even money bets.

Started by ego, Dec 11, 02:29 PM 2013

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ego


link:://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/extreme/msg29479/#new

follow that link and you will find a new explanation that is clear as water ... and let me know if you find any public method that create such good strike ratio ... LOL
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

luckyfella

Hi ego

Great work there. I did a quick further analysis on the results(hopefully no mistake) -

24/5 : 3L = 6, 4L = 1, 5L = 1, 6L = 0, 7L = 1
25/5 : 3L = 4, 4L = 2, 5L = 0, 6L = 0, 7L = 0
26/5 : 3L = 3, 4L = 1, 5L = 1, 6L = 2, 7L = 0
27/5 : 3L = 4, 4L = 5, 5L = 1, 6L = 1, 7L = 0
28/5 : 3L = 8, 4L = 1, 5L = 2, 6L = 0, 7L = 0
29/5 : 3L = 3, 4L = 4, 5L = 1, 6L = 2, 7L = 0
30/5 : 3L = 9, 4L = 1, 5L = 2, 6L = 0, 7L = 0
31/5 : 3L = 3, 4L = 3, 5L = 0, 6L = 1, 7L = 0

From the distribution of loss sequence a cutoff be set at -5 or -8 per loss series. The latter is the better choice but this is only a small sample and a larger population will give better representation IF the loss fall off is -7 and this profitability pattern is maintained. May need to take into account the 5% commission banker or super6 1/2 payout. On roulette how to handle the zero - ignore? Need more test to better determine this and worthy of further study.
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

luckyfella

Bets after 3L and 4L is best combination imho.
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

luckyfella

Your latest 11bets for 24 unique shows this distribution(hope no mistake)

3/6 : 0L = 35, 1L = 11, 2L = 9, 3L = 5 4L = 0

Impressive! This latest is practical to sit on 1 table to play the whole shoe whereas the 15 bets for 24 unique its better if you table surf a number of tables, say 1 doz. Will test today at b&m casino. Keep up the great work!
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

ego

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Kav

For some strange reason complicated, incomplete and confusing system descriptions seem to attract great interest  :-\

luckyfella

Complicated probably yes. Incomplete and confusing no. Differs from person to person that depends much on intellect amd experience.

For best explanation follow the link that ego provided. If you have specific queries post them. Ego might reply.

This system merits further test @ b&m casino with baccarat. If you have real results pls post below as contribution to determine that its not temporary or localised on nature. That'll benefit everyone including yourself. Looking forward to your contributions. Cheers!

Ps make sure you get your understanding correct 1st. Else youre feeding us false info/data.
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

luckyfella

Follow ego link to see latest update results of baccarat data from b&m casino.
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

ati

I've been reading this thread for almost 2 hours, and still having a hard time understanding it. But some of the examples finally starting to make sense.
I'm gonna try to explain what I have figured out through this example: link:://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/extreme/msg29531/#msg29531
So, it starts like this:
2 and 1 can be any even chance bet, red/black, player/banker, etc. whatever you prefer.
We start with waiting for a trigger, and it comes after the first two spins matches with one of the previous first two, then we bet that the third spin will repeat a previous sequence.

2 1 1
1 2 1
2 2 2
1 2 2 L   After 1 2 has shown, we bet 1, expecting that 1 2 1 will repeat. 2 comes, we lose.
1 2 2 W  Same situation, but the last time 1 2 happened, we got 2 for the third spin, so we bet 2 this time, and it wins.
1 1 1       
1 1 2 L    After seeing 1 1 1, then 1 1 we expect a repeat, so we bet 1, and we lose.
1 2 1 L    We bet 2 expecting that 1 2 2 will repeat again.
2 2 2       Here I don't understand why we don't bet 2?
1 2 1 W   1 2 comes again so, we bet 1 and win.
1 2 1 W   Same here.
2 2 1       Again, why don't we bet for 2?
2 2 1 W   As explained above, after seeing 2 2, we expect that 2 2 1 will repeat, and it does so.
1 1 2
1 1 2 W   The same thing goes on.
1 2 2       Here, I don't know why we don't bet 1?
2 1 1
1 2 1 L
1 2 1 W

So this is how I see it, it might be completely wrong. Why don't we bet at the questioned spots? Do you reset after a win or something?

luckyfella

Quote from: ati on Jun 09, 05:02 PM 2014
I've been reading this thread for almost 2 hours, and still having a hard time understanding it. But some of the examples finally starting to make sense.
I'm gonna try to explain what I have figured out through this example: link:://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/extreme/msg29531/#msg29531
So, it starts like this:
2 and 1 can be any even chance bet, red/black, player/banker, etc. whatever you prefer.
We start with waiting for a trigger, and it comes after the first two spins matches with one of the previous first two, then we bet that the third spin will repeat a previous sequence.

2 1 1
1 2 1
2 2 2
1 2 2 L   After 1 2 has shown, we bet 1, expecting that 1 2 1 will repeat. 2 comes, we lose.
1 2 2 W  Same situation, but the last time 1 2 happened, we got 2 for the third spin, so we bet 2 this time, and it wins.
It came out 1 and since there two 1 2 we bet for 1 2 to come out for a repeat.
1 1 1       
1 1 2 L    After seeing 1 1 1, then 1 1 we expect a repeat, so we bet 1, and we lose.
1 2 1 L    We bet 2 expecting that 1 2 2 will repeat again.
It came out 1 and since there two 1 1 we bet for 1 1 to come out for a repeat.
2 2 2       Here I don't understand why we don't bet 2?
***controversial. I dont know either.
1 2 1 W   1 2 comes again so, we bet 1 and win.
***again, controversial bcos of the above.
1 2 1 W   Same here.
2 2 1       Again, why don't we bet for 2?
After win row, reset with row 1  2  1 W as starter row.
2 2 1 W   As explained above, after seeing 2 2, we expect that 2 2 1 will repeat, and it does so.
1 1 2
1 1 2 W   The same thing goes on.
1 2 2       Here, I don't know why we don't bet 1?
After win row, reset with row 1  1  2 W as starter row.
2 1 1
1 2 1 L
1 2 1 W

So this is how I see it, it might be completely wrong. Why don't we bet at the questioned spots? Do you reset after a win or something?

For the benefit of the rest, there are 3 sequence that ego came up with, 15 bets for 24 unique, 11 bets for 24 unique and his latest sequential betting method. The above example is based on his latest.

Let's hope that ego will come up with his pdf file to provide clearer explanation. Lets wait for his response.
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

luckyfella

Quote from: luckyfella on Jun 09, 08:24 PM 2014
For the benefit of the rest, there are 3 sequence that ego came up with, 15 bets for 24 unique, 11 bets for 24 unique and his latest sequential betting method. The above example is based on his latest thats WIP me thinks.

Let's hope that ego will come up with his pdf file to provide clearer explanation. Lets wait for his response.
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

Kingspin

Try getting one of those big plastic skull caps that have electronic coil pickups on, connect the wires from the skull cap coils to small coils on your monitor screen , then you can get tune in to the wheel's frequency . Think of a winning number this will give you about as much chance of winning.
You cant always loose , but when you do loose you will win it all back.

GLC

Quote from: ati on Jun 09, 05:02 PM 2014
I've been reading this thread for almost 2 hours, and still having a hard time understanding it. But some of the examples finally starting to make sense.
I'm gonna try to explain what I have figured out through this example: link:://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/extreme/msg29531/#msg29531
So, it starts like this:
2 and 1 can be any even chance bet, red/black, player/banker, etc. whatever you prefer.
We start with waiting for a trigger, and it comes after the first two spins matches with one of the previous first two, then we bet that the third spin will repeat a previous sequence.

2 1 1
1 2 1
2 2 2
1 2 2 L   After 1 2 has shown, we bet 1, expecting that 1 2 1 will repeat. 2 comes, we lose.
1 2 2 W  Same situation, but the last time 1 2 happened, we got 2 for the third spin, so we bet 2 this time, and it wins.
1 1 1       
1 1 2 L    After seeing 1 1 1, then 1 1 we expect a repeat, so we bet 1, and we lose.
1 2 1 L    We bet 2 expecting that 1 2 2 will repeat again.
2 2 2       Here I don't understand why we don't bet 2?
1 2 1 W   1 2 comes again so, we bet 1 and win.
1 2 1 W   Same here.
2 2 1       Again, why don't we bet for 2?
2 2 1 W   As explained above, after seeing 2 2, we expect that 2 2 1 will repeat, and it does so.
1 1 2
1 1 2 W   The same thing goes on.
1 2 2       Here, I don't know why we don't bet 1?
2 1 1
1 2 1 L
1 2 1 W

So this is how I see it, it might be completely wrong. Why don't we bet at the questioned spots? Do you reset after a win or something?

The above trot reminded me of something.

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6844.msg63490#msg63490
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

luckyfella

".....but you will have to bet decent size units to hang with it...." GLC comments about flat bets

Any punter with serious size bets go with flat bets only, the grind is part of the package.  Any form of progression is a no go. Need to stay far away from the grave, the basic priority even before any talk of win.

All you need is a small skew that repeats, consistent and small negative swings. The latter is utmost important where 95% of the focus lies. Thats the secret to winning.
Goodbye everyone - 20/10/2019

ego

 I add two files and will continue this topic with new development.
If you want to understand this bet principals you should read the two PDFs i attach ...

I will rob the casino tomorrow with my version that cover all possibilitys with 99.76% odds ...

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

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