The Way Back

[ati]

Hi everyone, I thought I'd start a blog and share my results. Currently I'm on a winning streak, let's see how far I can go.
My first goal is to win back all the money I have lost in online casinos, which was about â,¬540 or $740 in mid November. I play in euro, so I'm going to use that as a currency.
About my recent history, in September I lost about â,¬143, in October an other 32, then I started winning. At the moment I play with 0.10 units, and I've just raised my daily goal from 100 to 200 units.
Here's a graph from November:


And this is December so far:


Need to win â,¬172 more, and I'll be about even online. And soon I have to decide how much I cash out, because I can still lose everything. It's giving me a hard time, because a cash out would set me back 2 months. If I'd kept the money in my account I could raise the stakes and win even more, but with a huge risk of losing everything.
Good luck everyone!

[GLC]

Thanks for sharing ATI.

We're all pulling for you to win back everything you lost and much, much more.

Please do keep us posted.

At some point telling us how you're playing would be interesting.  Dec's graph looks pretty promising. 

It should peek BudskiiHD's interest.

GLC

[ati]

It's over...... I could kill myself at the moment......everything was going perfect, then I lost it again.
I had a very unlucky series of numbers in today's session, and I had to bet over 1000 units, and that still wasn't enough to cover the losses.
I got mad, raised the stakes, and lost about 6000 units total.
I have two options now, cash out the remaining 3000 units, or start playing 24/7 and try to get back where I was. One thing for sure, next time I play, I will not have win goals, I'm gonna win as much as I can. What's the point of having 100 units per day win goals, when one loss is in the thousands?
It's too hard to accept a loss if I win every day. The same happened to me all the time when I was playing poker for years. Almost every day was a winning day, so I was unable to accept a loss when it came.

[jarabo002]

Do not get discouraged ati, no separations in your endeavor. If we can help let us know.

[Turner]

ATI
You seem out of control. Sounds like a compulsive nature...


. Forget the big loss. Its not the problem. If you try to address this problem right away you are doomed.
The problem is the exact moment you left the tracks. Pinpoint this exact moment. You know when it was.
Adress this and get stable first.
This is just my opinion

[ati]

This is exactly why I wanted to cash out. There is always a chance I lose what I have on my account.
I think maybe I should keep only around 400 units, and that would be the stop loss. If I lose it, I quit for the day. There would be no win goal, I'd win as much as I like, and take out the winnings every day. Only one problem here, they charge 10% for a cash out under about 800 euro. Player to player transfer could be a solution, but I guess it's not legal to have multiple accounts.

[ausguy]

ati - Playing with 0.10 units would surely mean an RNG game ? The interactive game program is pro casino so up to a point you are allowed to win. Then as you painfully found out you got hit hard. I think you are on the "wrong train" with RNG.

Even on 1c slot/poker machines players still lose a lot of money.

Like many I subscribe to live dealer play because it's true random. Sure it costs more but worthwhile saving up a decent bankroll. Costs more but usually you can win more. It has a higher critical mass. Betting, unless you are just playing for self amusement, should relate to every day costs, especially wages/salaries/living costs.

There's plenty of MM (money management) advice on the forums.  0.10 units on RNG seems like a cheap way to play but over time because it's the casino that's the consistant winner not many can make regular profits = Win more sessions than lose.

As to getting "mad" & losing you need to develop your play to take that part out of your game. A stop loss (SL) is also a great tool. Have it like the stock market where investors sell when the price is going down & it hits a predetermined level. For betting you could have your SL set at 10 - 20 %. There's nothing wrong with stopping play & coming back hours later or another day.

Your new post just came through as I was finishing my typing. The casino you are using has too many hoops for you to jump through.

I'd be looking at alternative casinos such as Dublinbet, Lucky Live, Smart Live, Party Casino for starters. There's others mentioned on the forum but I can't remember them just now.

You are correct to say multi accounts & cross player transfers are banned.

[vundarosa]

You are correct to say multi accounts & cross player transfers are banned.

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JUST curious...how does one actually do that?

vundarosa

[TwoCatSam]

I could kill myself at the moment

Before you do, please remember that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

You might want to consider taking a break...

TwoCat

[ausguy]

Vundarosa - With on line casinos & their ID requirements I think it would be rather difficult to have multiple accounts. Like you have to prove your address & that it fits your bank account plus things like a passport or photo image type drivers licence. Then they have access to your computer address plus they only allow 1 a/c per house hold. Also they have law enforcement with worldwide links, Interpol, Federal/State police. Regulators are very serious about money laundering.

What's the advantage of multi accounts anyway ? That is for the average player ? Crime syndicates may try & scam some casinos ? It can't happen all that often as I don't recall any news about multi a/c crimes ?

Cross player transfers just doesn't happen as the casino accounts people just won't do it.

All this is in every casinos Terms & Conditions that I've seen.

[ati]

I could kill myself at the moment

Before you do, please remember that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

You might want to consider taking a break...

TwoCat

Don't worry, I'm not gonna commit suicide, especially not over a couple hundred euros. I just wanted to indicate how pi**ed off I was. And that comment was written the minute after I played. That's what I usually do after a loss, open up a forum, and complain about everything. I can't say a word to people around me, I don't wanna hear bs like I have gambling problems, I will never win, I will lose everything, etc.

[GLC]

Dear Ati, 

I'm sorry for the bad streak that caused your weakness to surface.  I'm sure it's revealed its ugly head before.

My brother, Nathanael, has the same problem.  When he has a really bad streak and he gets this all or nothing mentality.  Many times he will win big right at the end of his bankroll.  That's bad because the memory of those wins causes him to go crazy and risk it all, every time, in hopes of hitting another lucky win just before tapping out.  I can tell you that he's lost every dime he's ever invested in gambling because he plays to either win a ton or lose it all.  Even when he wins a ton, it's only temporary because he's never satisfied. 

I can't tell you how many times he's come up with a good plan of attack, to play within certain parameters.  He does good while he's winning, but as soon as he gets that streak from he!!, he loses it.  It's like he's under some kind of hypnotic spell and can't stop.  I'm not saying you're as bad as he is, but even close to him is bad.  His only saving grace that he's been able to keep his losses to money that he's set aside for entertainment purposes.

He has two hobbies.  Golf and gambling.  Both expensive.

My advice.  Cash out the remaining 3000 units and stop gambling. 

There's a trigger in you that can't be controlled, at least not at this time, and you never know when it will flip on.  When it does, it controls you.  I'm surprised that you pulled up before losing everything.  That does show that there's hope.

Believe me when I say that we're all concerned for you.  Most of us have been where you are.  Chasing bad money with good money.  It's a real wake-up call.

Our dear friend Bazeegar almost crashed and burned completely, and had to turn from gambling, permanently.  We were all concerned for him and hope he's hanging tough.

Maybe you feel this advice is over-the-top for you.  Better over-stated than under-stated.

Good luck my friend,

GLC

[GLC]

I just read your last post.  I'm glad it's not as bad as we thought.

Cheers,

GLC

[GLC]

It reminds me of a Cheech and Chong skit where they're driving down the highway and getting stoned our of their minds and Cheech sees a vehicle coming up on them with red lights flashing.  He panics and tells Chong it's the cops, "help me drop this acid, snort this coke, shoot up this heroin, etc...  As soon as they have taken most of their drugs, the vehicle speeds passed them and Cheech say, "It's just an ambulance, man.  Light up another one".

Of course, those were the old days.  Back in the 60's and 70's when I was in "the valley of the shadow of death".

GLC

[ati]

ati - Playing with 0.10 units would surely mean an RNG game ? The interactive game program is pro casino so up to a point you are allowed to win. Then as you painfully found out you got hit hard. I think you are on the "wrong train" with RNG.

Yes, it's rng. But this time I don't think that I was cheated. Nothing extraordinary happened, just a bad series of numbers came, and with progression, the bet size went up to the sky. Eventually I hit, but after the win I was still down couple hundred units, and that's where the disaster started. I kept betting big, and lost again and again. I played the same way I did every time, and it worked in a hundred session before, and I wasn't prepared for such a losing streak.
I don't know why, but for some reason I want to prove that rng can be beaten. RouletteMaster showed some really nice winnings, and I feel that I can do it too. I don't want to go in details about the way I play, but I studied the rng at this casino and my conclusion is that it's somewhat predictable. I was able to win about 8000 units with inside bets only. Could have been luck, but I'm still confident I can do it again.