Holy Grail By Winkel.

[nottophammer]

think countback shows whats happening trot perfect, ends 10,+0

[nottophammer]

I posted a sheet of the avg and max spins for non-hit in another topic, so you could look for it, but as said upto the 19th 0x, they avg to hit in 2 spins, now upto the 26th 0x, these have an avg of 3 spins.
As you see 22nd and 23rd hit on their avg

LOTT do we say was late or say yeah we got 23,0x's

Finally countback showed how to see the trot

Thats your lesson over

[nottophammer]

Just got morts #'s heres the check points


Has the lesson been learnt. 9/10, 9+15=24  whats at checkpoint 31-40 answer 24 0x's have come
spins 11-20 just said above usual is 7,+2
spins 21-30   its 11,+1 to the trot/countback

Even spin 60 is close to avg of 30.5   
If 24 have come at 40th spin and avg for 60 is 30.5, you could get 6 more 0x's come, well 4 come

[Gitano]

 Good Morning!
That's fantastic Mr.Nottophammer.I've understand now the 6+1 10+0 !!

I'll need some time to understand well this , but I think I got it checking more with some of my spins.
I was seeing this chekpoints :
            =0   =1    >1
1-13:     26       9       2
14-25:  18/19 14/15 3/5
....

and I was I little bit confused..altough I think it's more or less the same thing;  but now I've learnt.

Saludos from Portugal

[nottophammer]

The checkpoints green box is how the non-hit come in 60 spins, as showed with countback you can see how fast the non-hit,hit.
With the GUT the crossings start say after 25th, so with the ktf column you know how the score of the non-hit go, so when a crossing comes you have another piece of info to decide whether to bet for the crossing, or as Prof Winkel said in a post you can bet against, but he never got to explain this option.

            =0   =1    >1
1-13:     26       9       2
14-25:  18/19 14/15 3/5  yes Gut reference points

[nottophammer]

Gitano, Valvo
See these checkpoint box's, there not to do with GUT, but you can see how 0x's avg over 40 /60 spins. I posted 51 consecutive checkpoint box's which shows avg for 40 spins is 15.2,0x's in spins 11-40, these 30 spins coincide with crossings.
I have said how upto 19th 0x avg to hit in 2 spins, then upto 26th 0x is 3 spins, so if you keep tab of how the 0x's hit when you have a crossing it will help to make the decision of bet the crossing or against.


8/10, 8+15=23 end spin 40,+1

[Gitano]

..studying studying...:-) :-)

[nottophammer]

Thats it the more you study the more you see the trot

[Gitano]

Hi Nottophammer,

could you check if I'm right here:

9/10
8,+3
13,+3
I've to expect to come 2 more 0x's in the next 30th-40th spins, -> because 9+15=24,keep counting I have 24-22= 2 to hit !?

[nottophammer]

yes 2 more could show, its fast +3, so 2 to show in 10 spins and remember they now avg to hit in 3 spins up to the 26th non-hit

[Gitano]

..Ok, these are the numbers..from fast to very very slow
the avg here has been not working fine.. only One in 2 expected at position 31..and no more until 51th spins ?

[nottophammer]

whats your game play, GUT or are you just KTF or just watching the trot.

[Gitano]

At the moment I just learn to read the trot and how to write it on paper.
After that I would play GUT following the chart crossing or not crossing , maybe combined to KTF in some spins where conditions are very close to the limits.
I saw that some trot, especially after 30th spins follow the avg very often!   that amazing!

Regards

[nottophammer]

These 51 spins have shown at spin 40, 23 of the starting 37#’s have shown, meaning from a 9/10 start, the spins 11-40 gave 14 non-hit, -1 on the avg of 15.8
Now if you had decided to KTF from spin 11 you’d be +50 at spin 15, why because the larger group did what they should/could do.
If you had decided to, (now this will make old Mr J laugh), watch the trot, using your collected data for averages for each non-hit, but in this case I’ll use mine, at spin 16, 15,0x’s have shown, but countback shows the 15th non-hit should or could have come at spins 21/22, so the game is fast and needs to slow down, so repeats are overdue and spin 17 is a repeat, so non-hit 16 has missed and it’s known average is 2 spins, so as we’ve only had 2 repeats, I’d watch to see if it misses again for spin 18, which it does making it miss it’s average of 2 spins, now is the time to bet the 22 remaining non-hit and you win on spin 19, +14 units.
You keep watching and 19 non-hit have come by spin 23, now the average spin value is 3 spins for the remaining 18 non-hit, move on non-hit 22 of the starting 37 missed its average of 3 spins so now I’d bet, spin 30 it shows, +15 units total +29 units.
Now what the General calls, the curve fitting part.
So forget his comments as there useless to how I play. Spin 30 has 22 of the starting 37 appeared, countback shows it’s +3 at this stage of the game, so repeats should start to come, to slow the trot down.
Spin 31 gives the 14th non-hit which should/could have shown at spins 37/38 so still the non-hits are fast, now the 15th non-hit for the expected 30 spins should/could appear at spins 39/40.
So from past game play we’ve seen +4 does happen even games that end -4 at spin 40, so as you’re watching spins 32,33,34, its missed the non-hit, So it’s been fast and known max spins for the 24th non-hit is 13 spins RNG and 11 air ball, on FOBT could bet for only 7 spins and that be max bet.
So you can see a lot to work on whether to bet for non-hit or repeats. As we’ve had 23 non-hit, 14 of the expected 15 already shown at spin 31, would you not be going for repeats?

Perhaps this will help.

[nottophammer]

Here is the record sheet marked out with countback the expected 15 non-hit to come in spins 11-40