Holy Grail By Winkel.

[Smoczoor]

Jan 01 Table 3 Results:   + 225 units.
Jan 02 Table 3 Results:   + 238 units.
Jan 03 Table 3 Results:   + 413 units.
Jan 04 Table 3 Results:   + 134 units.
Jan 05 Table 3 Results:   + 362 units.
Jan 06 Table 3 Results:   -  101 units.
Jan 07 Table 3 Results:   + 402 units.

any stoploss?

do You use 3rd method?

thanks for all dear Azim (great job!)

[TwoCatSam]

OK, I think I've studied the G.U.T. as much as the next feller....

Yes, which tracker and exactly how do you play?  I saw your crossings.  Are those all you play?  How many times on each crossing?  Just as winkel stated or until it hits?

The more one plays this system, the more questions come up.  Well, that was true for me.

Sam

[SamNL]

Yes, which tracker and exactly how do you play?  I saw your crossings.  Are those all you play?  How many times on each crossing?  Just as winkel stated or until it hits?

I would like to know this as well.

[Azim]

OK, I think I've studied the G.U.T. as much as the next feller....

Yes, which tracker and exactly how do you play?  I saw your crossings.  Are those all you play?  How many times on each crossing?  Just as winkel stated or until it hits?

I can confirm Tracker4 and KFS's GUT Tracker. They both are accurate. I have played with them.

I am creating my own tracker with all the if's and else's when to bet and when not to bet. How much to bet.
I will be adding this to my own program. I want to see the outcome.

Crossing: If you read the Professor's post, he has explained what to look for before actually playing all crossings.
There are times when I don't play them.

Number of bets:  I have used 2 times. However there are times depending on situations I bet more that 1 unit but never more than 2 times on each crossing.


The more one plays this system, the more questions come up.  Well, that was true for me.

Sam, not just for you.  It took me a few readings and practice to figure out what Winkel was trying to explain.
Sometimes it's hard to understand someone.

I am still trying to understand what he is trying to say with the 23-12-12 spins for a full cycle of 37 spins.

I wish he was still around to answer a few questions.

WITH ALL HONESTY.  THIS IS A GRAIL, IF ONE CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND AND USE LOGIC AND NO GUT FEELINGS.
ITS ALL LOGIC. WE ALL KNOW OR AT LEAST I KNOW, A GOOD LOGIC APPROACH WILL WIN ANY RANDOMNESS.

Example:
Husband to wife in a text: " wish you were her".

Darn what a mess.  The husband forgot the "e" at the end in the text. So the wife read it as it was.
He wanted to say "WISH YOU WERE HERE"

Sam

Anyways cut the whole thing short. It's all thinking and more thinking and playing. Once you play, follow it step by step.
The more you play, the more situations you will get. Remember, your last decision in that situation and follow the results from there.

I can say for a fact that "THE PROFESSOR IS RIGHT THE CROSSINGS HAVE TO CROSS AND IT IS A HOLY GRAIL IF PLAYED RIGHT".

[Azim]

any stoploss?
Like the Professor said. Didn't have to worry about it. He just doesn't recommend and neither will anyone else and that is DON"T GAMBLE WITH THE MONEY YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE.

do You use 3rd method?
To me there is no point in adding more confusion when, people haven't looked at the first one and understood, when to play and when not to.

thanks for all dear Azim (great job!)

You Welcome.

Currently I have no motive in holding anything back from any one of you.
I am willing to answer all your questions.
However, What I am not willing to answer is what numbers to bet on? That is already out there to learn and practice.
Every situation is different. The more you practice the better you will get at it.
If you can't do this step right you are 100% going to LOSE with this method. THERE IS NO IF, AND's or BUT's.
All I can say is there are people who tend to be negative about things. It's like they know it all.
Even though I don't personally gamble on regular basis(I only do it when I am challenged). I love the challenge roulette has brought to me and being brought up in a family that both sides of the family gambled, was an advantage. 

Maybe I am just PAYING FORWARD with my deeds.
Good Luck to you all for now.

[Buffster]

Thank you Azim for your NOT so insightful way of playing GUT ... So from what I can see we're still at the same point we were before you added your comments.

B

[Azim]

Thank you Azim for your NOT so insightful way of playing GUT ... So from what I can see we're still at the same point we were before you added your comments.

B

What do you mean?  What have I missed?

If I understood the questions right.  All situations are different. I can say to my situation and that is I don't bet all crossing.

It depends on a situation. Why repeat everything again when you have to follow examples from original post to understand when to bet and when not too!!!

Like the PROFESSOR SAID PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO WORK FOR IT AND EXPECT IT ON A PLATTER.

ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY A PRICE SO SOMEONE CAN GIVE IT TO YOU ON A PLATTER? 

Do a spin by spin study post it up and ask questions. I will answer.
I WILL NOT ANSWER WHAT NUMBERS TO BET or HOW TO BET..

Do a spin by spin like I have done, post it and I will help by saying yes i would bet that or no i wouldn't bet that.
You can even take the next spin out and wait for an answer so you don't tell me I could see the result.

I see no effort in doing a practice run...You have to practice to became good at it...


If you have a situation and not sure at spin 30...  Post 30 spins.. leave the 31st spin out. Wait for an answer and post the 31st spin after you hear the feedback if u want to...

I can not go any simpler than that.

ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS SHOW YOU ALL WITH PRACTICE AND UNDERSTANDING THERE HAS BEEN A HOLY GRAIL ON THIS FORUM SINCE 2008.

[Smoczoor]

Azim Thank You for your answers. I never studied GUT before. Im happy that you show it to me

Greetings!

[Azim]

Azim Thank You for your answers. I never studied GUT before. I'm happy that you show it to me

Greetings!

You welcome.

This is what I wanted everyone to see.  By studying GUT, you will not be gambling but studying. You will not be making money while studying.
However, the reward at the end is AWESOME. In all honesty this is PRICELESS if PLAYED RIGHT.


If you been following my posts, I have said this before.  CASINO IS A 24 HOUR ATM IF USED WISELY.

[Buffster]

Azim

You are not showing us anything different from what we have all learned from GUT.

You are saying you are having great success with GUT.

You are not explaining how you are playing it differently from the way Winkel intended it to be played.

Please explain if you are doing something different. If you have found something new.

That's all we're saying ... otherwise your comments on GUT are worthless to everyone but yourself.

Thank you

B

[Azim]

Azim

You are not showing us anything different from what we have all learned from GUT.
I can assure you. A hand full might have learnt and they probably aren't looking for anything else.
My object isn't to find a system and run away. I could have kept my mouth shut and let you all struggle.
Am I right? On the other hand struggle is a wrong word but you all know what I mean.

If you so positive that you have learnt GUT can you please explain me what he is trying to say in his breakdown of the 37 spin Cycle?

You are saying you are having great success with GUT.
I am maybe I am lucky. So I decided to ask a few people to send me spins of their own.
I was shocked at first. Yes, I am having good success with it.
It's not just me anybody willing to put in time will have success using it. I have spent a good time from my holidays to learn this.

You are not explaining how you are playing it differently from the way Winkel intended it to be played.
I am not, he has explained it in his posts. I am sorry for my following choice of words but I think you all know me by now hopefully, I mean no harm in the following statement:

I can not teach you how to think. You are the only person who can think for yourself.
It is not fun, it isn't my money it is your money on the line, why do you want me to think for you.

Again, practice practice practice and practice. Take 20 sets of spins. Play it out, if you win 15 out of 20 try and find out why did you lose the 5 sets. Work from there.   

I can and have always said, Any set of number's are win able. If you remember my challenge to AUSGUY, he can make up his own number's and I would have beaten them without GUT. It would have taken me longer but I would have. I guess hind sight.

Please explain if you are doing something different. If you have found something new.
I haven't found anything new. It's all explained by Winkel in his posts I can't explain it any simpler.

If we can have a moderator separate all negative comments from everyone who has posted on that thread we can reduce our reading by 1/4 which means we will drop from 80 pages to 60.
Second step is to create a separate thread where a person like me could have posted a play asking Winkel's advice in playing it.
That in itself will bring the pages down to 10. I am sure we all will find it easier to read 10 pages as opposed to 80.


That's all we're saying ... otherwise your comments on GUT are worthless to everyone but yourself.

I totally agree on this, I will not deny it.  The reason being is I have followed and am still trying to follow what he is trying to say.

Thank you
B

So once again, if you have learned from GUT like you say , can you PLEASE PLEASE reply to this:

If you so positive that you have learnt GUT can you please explain me what he is trying to say in his breakdown of the 37 spin Cycle?

I am still trying to understand it.

[vundarosa]

Azim,

Can you give a ABC breakdown of how GUT works ,what to look for IN YOUR OWN WORDS and in layman's terms if possible

vundarosa

[Azim]

Azim,

Can you give a ABC breakdown of how GUT works ,what to look for IN YOUR OWN WORDS and in layman's terms if possible

vundarosa

You have to always check for every possible crossing and play the most likely crossing that will hit.

[Azim]

link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=2128.msg25302#msg25302

He/She was last logged in in 2010.

I am trying to tell you all the same thing!!

[Azim]

I think I better stop here before I get banned from the site by Steve or a moderator.

However, If you do have questions. Post your play by play and I will try and explain , what I would look for in that situation.

Please just don't post 1 spin. Please post a minimum of last 7-10 spins before the situation in question.