Holy Grail By Winkel.

[Interstate89]

i think its very difficult to program something that needs a human brain to make individual decisions.

in Sam´s video T4 Tutorial 2 i saw a situation you can not program.
he was betting a 3-2 crossing. it was his decision to do it. i would not do it because the chance to hit 1 of 3 numbers is very low and the 3 number group was cold.
winkel said in his posts that it is not good to chase this type of tiny crossings. it is impossible to program this type of individual decision.

the point behind GUT is that you need some movement. more numbers in a group means a higher chance of movement.

to look for trends, movements and chances to hit is a pure human story and not something you can teach with "1+1"

[Azim]

at the moment i´m on page 20 and my brain feels like i try to build a rocket to mars.

the crossing i don't understand at the moment is the 0 to >1.
a number of group 0 goes to 1, i get it.
number of 1 goes to >1 or 2. these are crossings i understand for the logic.

but why is winkel talking about the 0 to >1 crossing. maybe the solution comes with some more pages to read but this crossing jumps over group 1.

I am going to say this before I explain:  " I WILL DROP DOWN MY LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING AND EVERYONE ELSE'S"

Bottom line don't feel offended by the way I explain. There might be others who will not understand as well maybe will if I drop it down:

0 group is a new game we have 37 numbers that have to go from 0 to 1. In real world this crossing should only happen at 19-18 becoming 18-19.

Which is not true because number's repeat. Since number's repeat 1 has to become > 1. now think of it as a dropping ball.
If you drop two balls and keep measuring the height they bounce. The height will intersect even though they are two different balls.

0 group has to drop till it reached 0 from 37.
1 group has to go up to 37 and once there which is all numbers have hit. It has to drop down.
>1 group has number's going up as well. So When 0 group is dropping > 1 is going up. The have to intersect somewhere.
The intersection is when they both have same number's.

Look at it this way. London Airport is a central location. We have to go to London to go anywhere in Europe from Canada.
Same goes for someone from Europe to Canada. It's a central location for someone in transit.

The groups have nothing to do with the crossings it the element in the group and those are the total number's(Height)

[Azim]

i think its very difficult to program something that needs a human brain to make individual decisions.

I totally agree with you. However today is my last day of vacation.
I can assure you by telling you this. I am not a genius, and I am 100% not smarter than Winkel(if you noticed I have called him a Professor.
I will be back in March when my work contract expires.
In the mean time I am going to read this and program it.

in Sam´s video T4 Tutorial 2 i saw a situation you can not program.
he was betting a 3-2 crossing. it was his decision to do it. i would not do it because the chance to hit 1 of 3 numbers is very low and the 3 number group was cold.


winkel said in his posts that it is not good to chase this type of tiny crossings. it is impossible to program this type of individual decision.

TRUE. HOWEVER. from what I have understood is he wanted people to practice with 0 VS 1, 1 VS >1, 0 VS >1 and last 1 VS 2. He said once you become proficient in making your decisions add an extra group


the point behind GUT is that you need some movement. more numbers in a group means a higher chance of movement.

to look for trends, movements and chances to hit is a pure human story and not something you can teach with "1+1"

You are right you can't teach, but with practice it becomes natural.

[Azim]

Guys

I am certainly no judge of anything.  Thank you, Turner, for the nice words.
I have been a member for only 1 year.  From what I have read about you, I have my RESPECT for you.
You have done more for this forum than anyone else.
If I were to ask anything, you would be the first person on my list.
Remember Kon-Fu-Sed?  He had a fellow program this into a computer just as winkel said and it lost around 2.7%


I said it this morning too.  You don't play all crossings when they show up. They will show up THEY HAVE NO WHERE TO GO BUT TO SHOW UP. We don't play every opportunity we get with a crossing.
I said look at the trend and remember what you decision was. If you keep losing remember after how many losses did  you win.And follow that.

Sam what Kon-Fu-Sed said was he did a run against a crossing that Winkel said at the very first go. DON"T PLAY this is just an example of a crossing. Never play more than 17 number's.

Sam

Here is another poker example.

I know the cards can't repeat so what are the possible 7 card combination in a deck?  3.5 million and change.

What are the chances to hit a flush 1 in 4.

If you have a situation where you have can make a flush but have to bet $300.00 to win $300.00 Would you bet?

NO!!!

Same case if I a situation came and I was to bet $10.00 to make $200.00 I would jump on that opportunity.

YES!!!  I would bet this in a heart beat..  Lets do the math or you get the idea?.

You have to look at whats happening to the groups. This system is the best system out there to give you current trend.

Current trend is what you want to follow.

[Azim]

You arnt attacking anyone....relax

Everyone has standard candles in their life.....and he is one in mine. I just know there is no hidden agenda in his posts. This has gone on enough to suspect there is a hidden agenda.

Turner, What do you mean by that? I have never heard that expression before.

I AM NOT SAYING THERE IS...before the Attack police beat me up in the back of their van.

Just typing what I am thinking here......

[Azim]

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36-37

from Top to Button the exakt number of possible combinations with exakt 0,1,2,3,...,36 sleepers

your questions is answered by the top-line

You must be kidding me to explain all those combinations in 2 posts...

[TwoCatSam]

at the moment i´m on page 20 and my brain feels like i try to build a rocket to mars.

the crossing i don't understand at the moment is the 0 to >1.
a number of group 0 goes to 1, i get it.
number of 1 goes to >1 or 2. these are crossings i understand for the logic.

but why is winkel talking about the 0 to >1 crossing. maybe the solution comes with some more pages to read but this crossing jumps over group 1.

0 vs >1 is absolutely not a crossing.  Before >1 can increase, 1 has to hit.  I would love to read where winkel wrote that. 

Now, my brain is not up to snuff tonight but I cannot recall a crossing where 10 vs 9 can become 9 vs 9.  Here is why:  For the 10 to become a 9, the 9 must become a 10.  If I'm wrong, please point it out.

Now you can have a 10 vs 10 and get a hit on the second 10 and form a 10 vs 9.  Seen that a lot.

If you have a 9 vs 9, that is a peculiar situation.  The two data points are on the same line!  But it will become a 8 10 if it hits.

I will say this:  I had far better results with Track4 as you can visualise what's happening.

Sam

Sam

[Azim]

@all

as I mentioned before it the BASIC!!!!!!!!

@TwoCatSam
you got the way of counting the numbers.

your question for the second position:
13 12 12
wins and changes to
12 13 12

betting the 13 would be right following the original system.
But I have to make sure you all understand the way the system selects the numbers. After you got that I can explain further hints to play or to play not.

I think it would be best you take some spins of your past games or out of thread of original dublin-spins or take OC-Spins or any other origin.

First hint: Don´t play the 19 or 18 numbers. Play only less than 18 numbers.

br
winkel

Sam, see Winkel has been saying I want everyone to understand before he gives hints..

Not you, but especially HERB.. really pissed him off. Winkel was getting more frustrated with HERB than trying to explain.

I am looking now for the stage where he is saying play 0 VS 1

[Azim]

@TwoCatSam

keep it simple

When we start counting with the first spin we have only non-comers and once-comers!
The first Crossing is between numbers that came and that not appear.
Remember I said: don´t play 19 numbers.

we watch always the crossing between numbers
- that appeared (x)-times and numbers that appeared (x+1)-times
- that appeared (x)-times and numbers that appeared (>x)-times
to get most possible bet-selections

imagine you would count 150 spins with this possible result:

R N F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10 F11
1 2  3  6   9  5   4   3  2   1         1

possible crossings:
F5 with F6
F6 with F7
F7 with F8
F8 with F9+F11
R+N+F2 with F3

But we shorten the selection to this crossings:
R with N
N with "all F"
N with F2
and not yet mentioned but visible in the diagram
R with "all F"

br
winkel

Sam, You right. I am wrong.  As of this point he hasn't mentioned but it's visible.

I guess I played it. I jumped. Maybe that's what TURNER was looking for from me...
Sorry TURNER

Maybe Maybe..  That's why I see it as a grail and others don't.

I am still checking trying to re-read this again to find my 37 Spin cycle.

I guess no one who has studied GUT wants to comment in me asking about the 37 spin Cycle. 
Shows how much people want others to do the work for them so they can have it on a platter.

[Azim]

Look at the graphs and look at the comment.

IF WE SPLIT THEM WE GET MORE CROSSINGS.

PLEASE LOOK AT THE COMPLETE PAGE.

link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=2128.75

[Azim]

@Everyone.

The night is over for me. Back to reality. 

I have tried my best. As best as I could. Once again, please READ, READ, PRACTICE, PRACTICE and MORE PRACTICE.

I would really like to thank BudskiiHD and Sam.  If it weren't for them, I wouldn't have learnt some of the things I have learnt from this thread.

I wasn't trying to be selfish to anyone.
I still am not trying to hide anything.

A promise to BudskiiHD and Sam, if I ever get around to doing this tracker as a challenge to myself(65% there is a chance),
you two can use it for a few weeks and cherish it.

The reason, why I say it is 65%, I have 5 offers on the table to create this tracker.
The lowest bid I have so far is $1K every month to use it.

BTW GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL.

[TwoCatSam]

Azim

If I have helped you, you are welcome.

That old thread really took me back!!

One thing we might consider:  An idea like this that just won't go away--well, you understand.

Later............

Sam

[Interstate89]

0 vs >1 is absolutely not a crossing.  Before >1 can increase, 1 has to hit.  I would love to read where winkel wrote that. 

As an example
on page 23 winkel is saying:

spin 40
we´ve lost
tendency is turning
0s = equal
1s = falling
>1s = rising
new bets possible
0 vs >1 13-13
1 vs 2 11-11

he is talking about 0 vs. >1 as an possible crossing to bet. maybe i´m completely wrong
there are more post from winkel about that. i posted this as example

[TwoCatSam]

OK

Now I've read it and you've read it and each may choose to believe as he wishes.  I believe winkel is human and this is a human error.  Decreasing the 0 column does one thing and one only:  It increase the 1 column. 

When a number in the 1 column hits, it increase the 2 column and the >1 column.

That's the way I see it.  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.  Someone will have to show me a graph where a 0 column hit increases the >1 column.  Then I'll believe it.

Anyone...?

Sam

[Turner]

Everyone has standard candles in their life.....

Turner, What do you mean by that? I have never heard that expression before.

Azim...

technically, its a candle which always gives the same light. You can gauge distances because you know how much light it gives. A quasar is a standard candle. Scientists know that quasars always give the same light output. If they find one in a galaxy, they can work out how far the galaxy is.

They dont go off checking quasars all over again each time they find one in a galaxy. They trust the experimental evidence that all quasars give the same light.


As a saying, it means you trust it. You wouldnt need to go investigate it all over again.

Sam has investigated this well. He still has confusions and ambiguous rules he cant work out.

I think GUT is ambiguous and confusing based on Sams test.

I did read it all my self. Any post with 100s of pages cant be simple to understand, and is usually hard to pin down.

See Code4, Pattern breaker, ***five***......anything by JL actually.

BUT......it can inspire you to think a new idea up.