Holy Grail By Winkel.

[Azim]

I have a strong idea of what I have to test in excel now.

I am totally glad. I would love to see someone else tell this forum that this is a grail.

They just have to work for it. It will not be handed over on a platter especially from me.

[LuckoftheIrish]

Thanks for the help thus far.  Much appreciated.

[Azim]

Thanks for the help thus far.  Much appreciated.

I have a feeling Winkel will be on the same page as me in saying:

Please Please make sure you have the facts right.
Unlike Andruchi, this is not a straight forward system. It's basically a strategy.

A system is easy to follow, a strategy is not.

[LuckoftheIrish]

Well I just tested what I thought would be positive and it was heavily negative.  Very disappointing.

[Azim]

Well I just tested what I thought would be positive and it was heavily negative.  Very disappointing.

I figured,  that would happen. That's why I posted the post earlier.

All I can say, is please keep trying.

I will tell you something. I have been told you are a smart person.  Can you answer me I question?

Have you actually read all of the 80 pages on the original thread?  Be honest with yourself?

[winkel]

Well I just tested what I thought would be positive and it was heavily negative.  Very disappointing.

I love this kind of posts!

Nobody knows what you´ve tested. Nobody can control if you did right. Nobody knows if you understood what to do.

Thank you very much and do me a favour: Don´t play that strategy.

[winkel]

It is always the same:

Is there an App?
Is there an RX-Code?
Is it coded in Excel?
and so on.

All these questions just say: There are lazy people who wanna win automatically by math. (Hey! GUT is not what you are looking for.)
They didn´t simply understand the main advice: Watch (you and nobody else) what is going on and make a decision.
As long as there is no AI-programming this is not codable.

There are two very nice supporting programs:
tracker4 and GUTCBA

They don´t bet for you. they just give you the point to make a decision. That´s all you need.
With GUTCBA you can clearly see what is going on:
Betting straight through to spin 50 will make you lose. Why not stop? don´t be greedy. There is always another chance.
Betting after two lost crossings will make you lose? Why not jump? Why do you follow Gamblers Fallacy: There must follow a win?
If you bet 17 crossing and win, why do you risc the win, when you don´t trust the trot.
If you bet 17 crossing and win, and you see this is quite a good trot, you can watch and win more or stop a bit later.

KonFuSed proved that every single crossing bet on its own will lead to the mathematically results.
GUT is a concept that counts on this fact. If there is that target we just try to seperate the winning 17/37 from the losing 17/37

[nottophammer]

Hello Winkel

It is always the same:

Is there an App?
Is there an RX-Code?
Is it coded in Excel?
and so on.

All these questions just say: There are lazy people who wanna win automatically by math. (Hey! GUT is not what you are looking for.)
They didn´t simply understand the main advice: Watch (you and nobody else) what is going on and make a decision.
As long as there is no AI-programming this is not codable.

There are two very nice supporting programs:
tracker4 and GUTCBA

They don´t bet for you. they just give you the point to make a decision. That´s all you need.
With GUTCBA you can clearly see what is going on:
Betting straight through to spin 50 will make you lose. Why not stop? don´t be greedy. There is always another chance.
Betting after two lost crossings will make you lose? Why not jump? Why do you follow Gamblers Fallacy: There must follow a win?
If you bet 17 crossing and win, why do you risc the win, when you don´t trust the trot.
If you bet 17 crossing and win, and you see this is quite a good trot, you can watch and win more or stop a bit later.

KonFuSed proved that every single crossing bet on its own will lead to the mathematically results.
GUT is a concept that counts on this fact. If there is that target we just try to seperate the winning 17/37 from the losing 17/37

If there is that target we just try to seperate the winning 17/37 from the losing 17/37 thats what its about. so is it the H.G
Wink do you ever end a session minus starting b/r. If youhave 20 sessions and lose 4, but b/r is bigger then fine, but does gut win every session

[winkel]

Hello Winkel If there is that target we just try to seperate the winning 17/37 from the losing 17/37 thats what its about. so is it the H.G
Wink do you ever end a session minus starting b/r. If youhave 20 sessions and lose 4, but b/r is bigger then fine, but does gut win every session

What is a session?
Follow the trot.
Try to read the trot.
You are unsure? Don´t bet.
You are sure? Bet
You win? Check your greed.
You lose? It´s not your day? Stop playing.
You can´t read that trot? Jump into another sequence?
If there´s a crossing, bet that crossing.
Do you lose? Why do you lose?

GUT just gives you a point to bet. To bet or not to bet is your decision. Watch what is going on.

Soon you will only bet the winning trots and avoid the losing ones.
Your wins will be bigger than your losses.

[Turner]

I am fairly sure, having read every post on GUT, "in the day" and subsequent attempts to understand it that it has evolved into a GUT feeling (pun intended)

Many years ago, it seemed more hard and fast. Now its more touchy-feely...like I said, GUT feeling.

That interpretation of GUT is true. I know what I have read.

The best have tried to get it and failed.

In the end, I truly believe its invented by Winkel, for Winkel.

Only Winkel will ever really get it....because it is subjective and that subjectivity is 
beholden to Winkel

Just my view Winkel.

Dont start barking at me !

[RouletteGhost]

The is there  an android app for this was a joke. Winkel a little sense of humor is ok, you know.

[winkel]

I am fairly sure, having read every post on GUT, "in the day" and subsequent attempts to understand it that it has evolved into a GUT feeling (pun intended)

Many years ago, it seemed more hard and fast. Now its more touchy-feely...like I said, GUT feeling.

That interpretation of GUT is true. I know what I have read.

The best have tried to get it and failed.

In the end, I truly believe its invented by Winkel, for Winkel.

Only Winkel will ever really get it....because it is subjective and that subjectivity is 
beholden to Winkel

Just my view Winkel.

Dont start barking at me !

But why is it so, Turner?

because people didn´t follow my advice: Take a trot and try to read it spin by spin.

Take the wiesbaden-site at noon. They start with 4 different tables. every other minute there are spins dropping in.
You can jump in until 1 o´clock in the morning
Just sit there and use tracker4 or gutcba. Try to decide to bet or not to bet watch what is going on.

If you do it once a day you will see what is developing during the spins.

[Azim]

Well I just tested what I thought would be positive and it was heavily negative.  Very disappointing.

May i ask you to post only only 20 first spins from the number's you were using.


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE..  Only 20 number's to start. With their crossing breakdown.

[Turner]

But why is it so, Turner?

because people didn´t follow my advice: Take a trot and try to read it spin by spin.

Take the wiesbaden-site at noon. They start with 4 different tables. every other minute there are spins dropping in.
You can jump in until 1 o´clock in the morning
Just sit there and use tracker4 or gutcba. Try to decide to bet or not to bet watch what is going on.

If you do it once a day you will see what is developing during the spins.

Winkel,

I appreciate your reply.

its the "try to decide" bit people struggle with I guess.

I play similar with a core idea that "presents" a bet to me. I dont always play it for reasons best known to myself.

Thats the hard bit for some people to grasp. The "best known to myself" bit.

Turner

PS....I simply love your phrase "check your greed"

Thats key to my decisions.

[ddarko]

its the "try to decide" bit people struggle with I guess.

I think that's the thing that most ppl have issues with regarding the GUT.

Most ppl here are looking for a simple, mechanical system here, an If.. Then... system if you will.....

I for one don't understand it & from my POV what with the tracking it's just too difficult for a simpleton like myself 

Does it work ? I haven't a Scooby Doo.....