Holy Grail By Winkel.

[nottophammer]

I dont think any method can be proofed. But what should be enough is, if you understand whats put forward and you use it as stated and you make more than you lose, then theres your proof.
What i dont get is why people cant use GUT, it is the best stratergy i've come across, so simple just 0X's,1X's and >1X's. Dare i say it, the Trot.
The trot is the part that will make you or break you.
Winkels way, whats a better way than the crossing, like the man says its your decision,that decision comes from understanding the TROT.

[Azim]

@Celtic,

Don't get upset. People have the right to ask. However, lets first find out and understand the term "certified proof" from who is asking?

[Tamino]

Blind faith ?     A forum rule?

[Azim]

Blind faith ?     A forum rule?

Whats your version of "certified proof"?  If you don't have any than I agree with Celtic it was stupid to ask the question.

[nottophammer]

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num     non-hit          1X     >1     2X     >2     3X     >3     4X     
07         36           1
21         35           2
13         34           3
22         33           4
08         32           5
17         31           6
24         30           7
30         29           8
26         28           9
04         27           10
20         26           11
01         25           12
Can Gut show a favourable time to go for a repeat (WTF)
12 spins done and Winkel gave you some info at 13th spin, could see 26-9-2-2, as you can see, its 25-12-0-0, so whats the decision? Do you remember 12 unique?

[nottophammer]

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num  non-hit    1X   >1    2X   >2    3X
03     24       13

13 non-hit no repeat, time to go for the repeat

[MrJ]

 

I know it's addressed to Celtic, however, whats your version of certified proof?

I have argued this many times over. Proof means what? Because a person said they are up 20K? Thats not proof. Their forum friend also says...I was with him and saw the entire roulette play for the day. Thats not proof either. You show your bank statement (lol)....also not proof. Who says your balance is that high because of roulette?

You show a pic of all your high value chips. Thats not proof either. Are they ALL yours? Maybe you just bought in? Maybe you won a ton of those chips at a different game, not roulette? Perhaps you took some of those chips home from a previous visit? I can go on and on.....

Ken

[nottophammer]

Well we've made it to 13 spins and no repeat.
Next bit of info is at 25th spin, could see  18/19-14/15-03/05, so theres 12 spins to come, for the >1x to get to 03/05 you have to have the 1x hit, the >1x are at zero.
Average for 0x in spins 11-20 is 7, would give a score of 7+2, we've had 3 spins, fast trot.

[Azim]

Exactly Ken. So when people ask what's the proof,in my opinion its a dumb question.

In one way, I agree with Steve, if a system has sound rules, you can run it against a million spins.

However, when you have to make a decision, it's hard for some to program different situation to pass a million spins.
Having said that, doesn't mean it's not doable. It took me around 8-9 months to get the GUT bot to par. Does that mean I want to part with it, to prove to someone that it can pass a 1m spin.

Especially, if I have to disclose the thinking behind it. Is it worth doing that for 100K?(I could make more with it over a year). That's one of the reasons, I don't part with my bot's. People get greedy and start to run it 24/7. Just like what I did with KTF.

[nottophammer]

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num    non-hit    1x    >1x    2x    >2    3x
17       24       12      1     1
Theres your repeat.
So for some BR 1 opens, now from previous game play the 2x's become 3x  more often after the 20th spin, no problem with that as its now watch mode.

[The General]

How does a number know when it's due to hit, and when it's due to sleep?

If the number of pockets on the wheel remain the same from one spin to the next, then what's the purpose of a "crossing"?

What is the force that reaches forward from the past and into the future that makes a number more likely to hit?  According to the present understanding of physics, there are four fundamental interactions or forces: gravitation, electromagnetism, the weak interaction, and the strong interaction.  Or is it something more mysterious...like magic?

[Tamino]

General



It is not ,magic ..... it is VOODOO.

[Azim]

How does a number know when it's due to hit, and when it's due to sleep?

If the number of pockets on the wheel remain the same from one spin to the next, then what's the purpose of a "crossing"?

What is the force that reaches forward from the past and into the future that makes a number more likely to hit?  According to the present understanding of physics, there are four fundamental interactions or forces: gravitation, electromagnetism, the weak interaction, and the strong interaction.  Or is it something more mysterious...like magic?

Why do I want to waste my time on you, go learn the game for yourself.

I have told others and telling you too, go PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE..  make the game second nature to you and you will have your answer.

[Azim]

General



It is not ,magic ..... it is VOODOO.

Here we go more people joining the circus...

[nottophammer]

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num    non-hit    1x    >1x    2x    >2    3x
15      23        13      1      1
35      22        14      1      1
05      21        15      1      1                           7 spins,   6 non-hit and 1 repeat, so now its time to go for the 1x's i'd leave the 1, 2x out
09      20        16      1      1
05      20        15      2      2                           win, watch again
15      20        14      3      3                           There  7+2
Now 3 BR's open, 20 spins done.
Now for the general, we're playing a game of chance, so why should math help any more than experiance. Its a simple game of 0x's then 1x's and then >1x's.
In spins 21-30 if it runs to average, then with 7 already come,5 more 0X's could show, 50/50, so heres where the 1x and >1x will show. Its simple for a few, but  through those dark glasses  it looks complicated, when  four fundamental interactions or forces: gravitation, electromagnetism, the weak interaction, and the strong interaction, have to be taken in as well