Colby's Dozen Grind

[Colbster]

@Le Chiffre

Yes, that is the correct setup for the levels

[Nathanael]

The spins from Reply #38 killed the 1-1-2-3-4 progression.

The stretch of 24 losses and 8 wins did it.

My guess is  any of these progressions will work or not work?

You just have to pick your favorite based on your stop loss and win targets. 

I have to throw my hat in the ring for Colbster's progression, so far.

[arizsumda]

I hope others will give this a try, or at least  multiple tests.
I've only played 3 times real money but will continue to use this each day,(unless I bust my bankroll)  I'm playing for a 5 unit profit then quit.  While not playing I'm running tests with old numbers that I've had.
Thanks Colbster for posting this, even if I lose, I still like this method.

[Le_Chiffre]

For a method to be solid and work in the long run you shouldn't need to play for small targets and quit like you're being sneaky or something or hoping Lady Luck won't notice or will think 'oh it's only a small amount he's playing for, let him have it'. You should be able to play to a million units target if you want all day every day comfortably without fear of going bust.

That being said I'm manually testing this on roulette xtreme which i like to do with methods that take my interest. I'm not a massive fan of bots and trackers as there always seem to be errors in the code and give misleading results either showing it to be the grail or showing it fails when it actually wouldn't at that point. I will do manual test of 10,000 spins of this and post the bankroll trend chart when done.

[Colbster]

I completely agree with Le Chiffre about hit and run play. A solid method is just that and won't be staggered by continuous play. I have quit after 150 spins (except when it took more to recover) just for the sake of posting results. That spin count consistently have me results in the 50 unit won range and I wanted to share. I don't think for a second that my results would change if I were to get out earlier or later.

[Le_Chiffre]

I'm currently at 1,500 manual spins and I've ran into the run from hell.  At the minute im up to playing the 13 sets level which in this case is 41-41-82 as you can see when it gets to that level it's a slippery slope to hell.  I'll keep going to see if it recovers as it's not real money but if it was real money I think most people would be feeling a bit sick at this point.

[TwoCatSam]

Le

Just looking at your screenshot out to the lower right where the formula is------are you sure you're doing this right?

Sam

[Le_Chiffre]

Le

Just looking at your screenshot out to the lower right where the formula is------are you sure you're doing this right?

Sam

Hi Sam, I playing to the rules confirmed in an earlier post by Colbster so the method is correct.  And as I've done this by hand I can assure you its correct, not fault of a bot.

[TwoCatSam]

Le

No need to get your hackles up!!  I was going to have the systems botted and just wanted to confirm the rules.  As I read it--and I've read it three times---your way and the way Colby set forth the rules are not the same.  I suppose I'm reading it wrong, huh?

Anyway, I'll leave it be and move on.

Thanks.

Sam

[Le_Chiffre]

Le

No need to get your hackles up!!  I was going to have the systems botted and just wanted to confirm the rules.  As I read it--and I've read it three times---your way and the way Colby set forth the rules are not the same.  I suppose I'm reading it wrong, huh?

Anyway, I'll leave it be and move on.

Thanks.

Sam

Hi Sam, sorry if it sounded like i was being rude as I certainly wasn't trying to be.  Just wanted to stress that I was doing it correctly (at least from what Colbster agreed when I posted the formula a few days ago).  Please do make a bot if you have some spare time as it's always good to see the results they produce.  I'm a fan of doing it by hand so I know for sure (as obviously I've done it and seen it play out) but that's not to say lessons can't be learned from the bot results.
Anyway, you'll see the formula I posted a few posts ago.  That's what I was playing and Colbster confirmed it was correct.  It may be different to the oriingal post and there's been a few modifications throughout.
Thanks for all your help on the forum.

[TwoCatSam]

Le

In post 46. Colby outlines his system again.  In post 51, you seem to agree with it.  From there until now I can find no post where the scheme you use is listed.

Sam

[Le_Chiffre]

Le

In post 46. Colby outlines his system again.  In post 51, you seem to agree with it.  From there until now I can find no post where the scheme you use is listed.

Sam

Sam, bottom of page 4, reply 59

[Colbster]

The numbers that are shown in your screenshot have 5 wins in the last 11 spins.  Granted, 3 of those 5 are on the second spin of a 3-spin set which returns the least, but between the 5 tight wins, there should have been a VERY solid recovery that doesn't appear to be reflected in the chart.  I would clearly have to see the whole session to see where we deviate, but any time you get 5 out of 11 on the dozens (and you appear to be at high bets according to the chart), you should have a steep uptick that appears to be absent.

[Colbster]

Le Chifre,

Are you forcing every set to take 3 spins?  The sets begin fresh after 3 losses or any win during the 3.  If we get a L-L-L, a L-W, a L-L-W, or a W, we have completed that set and begin the next set of 3 spins.  Also, are you forcing the complete number of sets at each level?  That only applies if we haven't reached a new high (or equal to the old high), at which point we automatically resume with the 1-1-2 first level.  I just want to make sure we are all working with the same rules, as all I have clarified so far is the progression question you had.

[TwoCatSam]

Colbster

Will you direct me to the post where you, not Le_Chiffre, posted the progression?  Your progressions was up 2, then 4 and so on.  I can find no post where you direct anyone to go up one on a loss as the chart he posted.

Must be me blind day!!

Sam