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Colby's Dozen Grind

Started by Colbster, Jan 21, 07:54 PM 2014

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Colbster

Yeah, something is not firing quite right here.  You appear to take about a 650 unit drawdown over the course of 25 or 30 spins.  Using your 41-41-82 figures, you would recover in the range of about 375 units in just the 5 wins I mentioned just previously.  Instead, you are only 123 units off your low. 

Colbster

@Sam,

It is in reply 59.  He asked about the formula for figuring the bets for each level.  After the first 1-1-2, loss, we move to two sets of 2-2-4.  After that, we take whatever the current drawdown from the maximum is, add a number that increases by 1 each level (it increases by 1 to figure level 2, 2 for level 3, etc.).  We then take that amount, divide by the appropriate divisor, which is also determined on a last set +1 basis, and round up.  This constitutes the new value for x and we play x-x-2x as our sets, with the number of sets also determined by the previous sets value +1.  Any win or 3 losses ends a set, and we play only until we equal the previous high or set a new high.

TwoCatSam

OK, guys, I copied the original post to my hard drive.  It is NOT the same. (I always do this when something has real potential as the author may realize the potential and delete the whole thread--so my copying is a compliment.)

I have had this gripe for years:  There are so many tweaks, twists and turns one can never be sure of what's what.

Thanks for the replies.  I'll just read for a while.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Le_Chiffre

Colbster i was using the approach in 59 but I was just betting on the last dozen spun to repeat. I was wasn't using your rules for triggers. Maybe that is the problem although random is random and any dozen chosen the progression should be able to work for.

jstraa

You do not have to tap me on my shoulder but I think waiting for a dozen not to hit for 5 or 6 times or even more, will lower the number of bets but will improve hit ratio. Sessions of not hitting a dozen for 6 times are more scarse then the average of 1 on 3. If you kick it up to 9 or so, so a dozen did not hit for 9 consecutive spins, and start betting, saves you at least 3 levels of betting, which might improve the overall success ratio. Only these do not occur so often.

Just my 2 cents!

SamNL

Test with spins from Wiesbaden from today.

Buffster

Been playing at my local casino online rng. ( I know rng )

Anyways been playing my version of your system ( very similar to yours ).

I've won 20 units per night.

Tonight's session won 21 units. Only difference was tonight's session wasn't from hell but verrrry close. Half way through after leaving my level 1 ... it ran up to my level 5 ( 104 spins ) to finally clear a new high.

Whole session took 164 spins.

I'll get into more precissions when I have more time.

Thanks Colbster

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Nathanael

Here are the spins from Reply #38 played using Oscar's Grind.  Plus 1 on a win.  Stay the same on a loss.

Also the worst series of spins playing stretched Oscar's Grind.  Plus 1 after 2 wins at a level.  Stay the same on a loss.  Largest draw down was 78 units.

Just looking at options.

Don't think that because your system has never lost, it can't lose.  Always be prepared for the worst.

Le_Chiffre

well guys i carried on playing the way i was doing and i managed to recover quicker than i thought i would. highest i got up to was 15 sets. will keep going with the test.

Colbster

Even with that nasty stretch, you gained over 1 unit every 3 spins. That's better than my average by a sliver. Glad it recovered.com although I don't like that big of a drawdown.

Le_Chiffre

yes it was a nice recovery.  Playing this 0.10 unit stakes this could have some long term potential.  Would take a very nasty session to go bust at 0.10 stakes with a large bankroll.

Buffster

20 units again tonight .... only 34 spins needed.

Easy compared to yesterday.


Once again... Thanks Colbster


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shaquille3

Played 3 sesions today with 20 units gain each, so 60 units profit for today. I had a big DD of 170 units but recovered. My question is, what would have happend if I had got a losing streak when my bet was 20 20 40 ( aprox )? Isn't it like just starting with 20 20 40  and catching a losing streak? I am not yet convinced that I won't lose all my winnings if I continue to play this system.  I like it alot when luck is on my side but when I start losing and losing and I have to bet 20 20 40 for 8 rounds its not fun :)


Buffster

Another 25 units in 50 spins

Nice


Thanks Colbster

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TwoCatSam

Quote from: Buffster on Feb 09, 09:16 PM 2014

Anyways been playing my version of your system ( very similar to yours ).



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Would you please elaborate on your version of the system.  This begs to be botted.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

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