Which online casino is the best + Invincible system to reveal

[romano0327]

Hello Steven,

Could you please check the pm I sent you.

Thanks,

[steven1212]

Hello Steven,

Nice to hear that you spent sometime in my country.

Guys please stop confronting Steve, he has shared something with us without asking for anything in return, it would be different if he was asking us to pay him, then you would have the right to doubt and feel offended, if you like it take it, if you dont then leave it, if you have questions, ask kindly...

Steven I think I understand everything, I just have some doubts that I would like to clear.

Using your example with a banlroll of 1000 units divided into 5 small bankrolls of 200 units, if we loose the progression then we would loose 80 units, if we loose the progression on spin 40, then we would loose only 40 units of our first small 200 unit bankroll, then we would have a 160 units left for the session...One of my doubts is, do we aim on each session to double our small bankroll, to win 200 units and then we can recalculate or small bankrolls again (1200/ 5 = 240)? or do we just aim to win 80 spins to recalculate our small bankrolls again (1080 / 5 = 216)? Also do we recalculate our bankrolls again if we loose any progression (minus 80 units) ? or do we recalculate our bankrolls only if we loose a complete small bankroll (minus 200 units) ?

Another doubt I have is, if our bet selection will loose 1 in 80 times, doesnt that mean that the statistic will kill us overtime? becouse we need to win at least 80 times in a row or more to secure breakeven or some profit, but the statistic is telling us that we will loose 1 in the 80 spins, usually before we have the chance to achieve the breakeven point or profit point.

Thank you Steve in advance,

Just answered. Let me know if you have more question mate.

[steven1212]

Sorry if not clear Just trying to clarify the Football bet with MM

assuming bet odds all 1.20
10 80unit bets @ 1.20 if all winners wins 160 this gets added to the original amount which would now be 400. I then divde this by 3 and round down to 130 and attack with this amont for another 10 bets.

Again same as above but this time i lose on the 5th bet. I would have already won 4 bets so be plus 64 but now lost the 80 and dont have enough for another 80 bet. i stop add this to pot dived by 3 and start again with new amount

Again as above but lose 80 on 9th bet meaning i have 144 from the other 9 wins . Do i stop here as i have enough to bet a 10th time at 80 or does it matter?

Hey man I have no idea what you’re talking about you confused me. All I know is you’re not doing it right so I’ll start to explain to see if it puts you on the right track and then you can ask me your questions.

Everything depends on your odds.
So let’s say you have 1000 bankroll. Your first attack is with 200.
Your target is to double it (so you must win 200)
Your stop loss is the full 200.

If you chose bets of 1.2 odd, you need 5 of them to double it.
Bet 200 in each bet. If you win all 5 bets, you won your session. If you win the first 3 bets, and lose on the fourth, you won 3 times 40, and you lost 200. So you lost 80 and have saved 120.
In my example, If you win all 5 bets, your new balance is 1200. Therefore your new bet size for the next session is 240
If you lose in the 4th bet, your new balance is 920. Therefore your new bet size is 184.

If you had chosen odds of 1.1, you would do the same thing but you would need 10 bets in order to successfully finish a session.

[vladir]

Hi ignatus, I understand your apprehension.

Read post#923 and #928 for explanation.

I don't know if it will fail with a black swan event with this double dz code4 model but I do know that it can be coded and tested over millions of spins with Rx.

Can you/any programmer run this test with $1000 br, 4steps marty, Steven's MM and tell us the result pls. Thanks

Ps. I am not using the original betselection.

Y, this can be tested. I have sen this MM before applied to sports betting, but I din't think about applying it to roulette, because it said it needed a positive expectation bet selection (and not a negative as we have in roullete with any system I know off).
Anyway, I would like to see the result of some testing on this. With some work I could simulate it in an excel sheet too (but too busy to do it rigth now ...)

As far as I understood, it's claimed this MM should give similar results with any "decent" bet selection.
Am I rigth that we could use a simpler bet selection (like betting last 2 hit dozens? ) and get on the long run same results as code4?

[ArmitageShanks]

For my first attack, I will divide the bank into three pockets. The first pocket of 80£ is what I have to double in my first attack. I will take 2/2.5 days to do try to do so.
I will place in average 10 bets during those 2 days, which I must all win I order to double the 80£.
The stake for every bet is 80£. I will NOT compound and add the winings after each bet. It’s exactly the same for the roulette.
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I was refering to this where each bet was £80 starting with 10 bets, I get the concept with betting roulette with a progression but was trying to see how it would work with the football bets. I'll stop before i confuse things more and hopefully it'll become clearer to me as the bets begin. Thanks

[steven1212]

For my first attack, I will divide the bank into three pockets. The first pocket of 80£ is what I have to double in my first attack. I will take 2/2.5 days to do try to do so.
I will place in average 10 bets during those 2 days, which I must all win I order to double the 80£.
The stake for every bet is 80£. I will NOT compound and add the winings after each bet. It’s exactly the same for the roulette.



I was refering to this where each bet was £80 starting with 10 bets, I get the concept with betting roulette with a progression but was trying to see how it would work with the football bets. I'll stop before i confuse things more and hopefully it'll become clearer to me as the bets begin. Thanks

Ah ok m’y bad. Don’t get stuck on the “10 bets”. That’s unpr3ictabe for me. Could be 5 or 20. Depends on the odds I find. My goals is to bet until I double (or accumulate odds of 2.0 in total)

[romano0327]

Thank you for your reply Steven,

I also sent you a pm.

Regards,

[ArmitageShanks]

Ah ok m’y bad. Don’t get stuck on the “10 bets”. That’s unpr3ictabe for me. Could be 5 or 20. Depends on the odds I find. My goals is to bet until I double (or accumulate odds of 2.0 in total)

understood,thanks.

[steven1212]

For those of you who want to know how to consistently withdraw from a casino without them noticing, so you don’t get on their bad radar and they start blocking, here is a little trick I use. I use myself not at the roulette, but in order for the bookmakers to not limit my stakes on my football bets (they do that as soon as you withdraw two months in a row) .... but it will cost you 3-4% per withdrawal. That’s the price for peace.

What you need is to play in a casino that also has sport betting, such a paddy power, bwin, Ladbrokes, etc....

Let’s say you win 5000£ at the roulette and you are afraid that they will not let you withdraw it.
What you need to do is to open and deposit money in a Betfair Exchange acccount. Betfair Exchange is a betting website different from every other because you don’t play against the bookmaker. You play against other bettors just like you. It’s like a marketplace that lets people bet against each other. The website itself takes a commission on all the bets placed on their site. So they have an advantage to pay you your withdrawal. Because they don’t lose money, and they want you to come back cause the more you bet on their site the more money they make.

Back to our problem. If you won 5000 on bwin and you want to withdraw it. Go to their sports section and find a game with a team who is favorite. With you 5000, you will bet against the favorite team. At the same time, you are going to betfair, on the same game, and you bet for that team. You need to calculate the odds to make sure that you win the 5000 that you will lose on bwin. What you are essentially doing is virtually transferring your winings from bwin to betfair. You lose a few percent in the process, but now you’re money is in a place where you can safely withdraw it. All the time, however much you want ! And bwin loves you because you make them win money by losing so many bets.

Clever isn’t it ?

[Andre Chass]

Why bet 80 times a day? It's too risky!

I believe that the longer you stay in the game the more you are exposed to losing.

I suggest use hit and run strategy like I'm doing with Steven's money management.

[cht]

For those of you who want to know how to consistently withdraw from a casino without them noticing, so you don’t get on their bad radar and they start blocking, here is a little trick I use. I use myself not at the roulette, but in order for the bookmakers to not limit my stakes on my football bets (they do that as soon as you withdraw two months in a row) .... but it will cost you 3-4% per withdrawal. That’s the price for peace.

What you need is to play in a casino that also has sport betting, such a paddy power, bwin, Ladbrokes, etc....

Let’s say you win 5000£ at the roulette and you are afraid that they will not let you withdraw it.
What you need to do is to open and deposit money in a Betfair Exchange acccount. Betfair Exchange is a betting website different from every other because you don’t play against the bookmaker. You play against other bettors just like you. It’s like a marketplace that lets people bet against each other. The website itself takes a commission on all the bets placed on their site. So they have an advantage to pay you your withdrawal. Because they don’t lose money, and they want you to come back cause the more you bet on their site the more money they make.

Back to our problem. If you won 5000 on bwin and you want to withdraw it. Go to their sports section and find a game with a team who is favorite. With you 5000, you will bet against the favorite team. At the same time, you are going to betfair, on the same game, and you bet for that team. You need to calculate the odds to make sure that you win the 5000 that you will lose on bwin. What you are essentially doing is virtually transferring your winings from bwin to betfair. You lose a few percent in the process, but now you’re money is in a place where you can safely withdraw it. All the time, however much you want ! And bwin loves you because you make them win money by losing so many bets.

Clever isn’t it ?

Hahaha nice one Steven !

[steven1212]

Why bet 80 times a day? It's too risky!

I believe that the longer you stay in the game the more you are exposed to losing.

I suggest use hit and run strategy like I'm doing with Steven's money management.

I agree. I know people don’t believe in hit and run and I really don’t want to get into that debate. But I see it an as extra advantage to win our fight against the wheel. Imagine the table as no mans land. If you show yourself sometimes for a few second, you might survive. If you stand there like an idiot all day, you will get shot in the head.
Hit them and then run.

[kingmaq]

For those of you who want to know how to consistently withdraw from a casino without them noticing, so you don’t get on their bad radar and they start blocking, here is a little trick I use. I use myself not at the roulette, but in order for the bookmakers to not limit my stakes on my football bets (they do that as soon as you withdraw two months in a row) .... but it will cost you 3-4% per withdrawal. That’s the price for peace.

What you need is to play in a casino that also has sport betting, such a paddy power, bwin, Ladbrokes, etc....

Let’s say you win 5000£ at the roulette and you are afraid that they will not let you withdraw it.
What you need to do is to open and deposit money in a Betfair Exchange acccount. Betfair Exchange is a betting website different from every other because you don’t play against the bookmaker. You play against other bettors just like you. It’s like a marketplace that lets people bet against each other. The website itself takes a commission on all the bets placed on their site. So they have an advantage to pay you your withdrawal. Because they don’t lose money, and they want you to come back cause the more you bet on their site the more money they make.

Back to our problem. If you won 5000 on bwin and you want to withdraw it. Go to their sports section and find a game with a team who is favorite. With you 5000, you will bet against the favorite team. At the same time, you are going to betfair, on the same game, and you bet for that team. You need to calculate the odds to make sure that you win the 5000 that you will lose on bwin. What you are essentially doing is virtually transferring your winings from bwin to betfair. You lose a few percent in the process, but now you’re money is in a place where you can safely withdraw it. All the time, however much you want ! And bwin loves you because you make them win money by losing so many bets.

Clever isn’t it ?

So you bet on bwin for team A and on betfair for team B.

Right ?

[steven1212]

So you bet on bwin for team A and on betfair for team B.

Right ?

Right. You will lose between 1% and 3% but at least the money you won at the casino you lost it back.  So they don’t care about you. And you can withdraw it safely and make BetFair happy.
Everyone wins.

[romano0327]

Nice way of getting out the cash,

Steven could you please check your inbox.


Thanks,